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How to solve israels problem

Voidwar said:
unacceptable cop out.

You can type that the factors exist, so why can't you explain what they are ?

Yeah I checked your links anyway, only took 3 paragraphs for the lies and deception to begin . .

I didn't claim you would agree with them, or expect you to, based on your hostile attitude. You asked what factors make them hate us. These are some of the factors according to the articles.

Note this dickhead doesn't mention that Egypt is the next largest recipient

If you want to get along with your neighbors, my advice is do not address them as "dickhead." It's not very nice and will not make you very well liked by your neighbor.

I'm sure the rest is just as full of deception, so why don't you try backing up what you are saying, yourself ? Why don't YOU detail these factors that you claim exist ?

I'm not a muslim living in the middle east, why would I know what the factors are better than them?
 
Iriemon said:
If you give support to one others feel is their oppressor, it doesn't make friends. I didn't say the US couldn't do what it wants. If you have a next door neighbor you can play loud music even if you know it bothers him. You may have the right. But don't expect your neighbors to be veyr fond of you.

So six million Jews are oppressing a billion Muslims ?

Not very believable. Could it perhaps be that they are not oppressing them at all, and that the people you are describing just want to kill Jews, and they are mad because we don't ? And that we make it pretty difficult ?

Iriemon said:
Could be. Pehaps they don't see Americans treating others that way.

But as I said, prisons in their country are much worse, so this don't fly either.

Iriemon said:
Infrastructure given or licensed to American companies by the puppet Govt we installed where the profits went to enrich the Shah who spent billions on American military equipment?

The Western Nationals still sank the investment, and still have the contract. If the government that held sway at the time was bad, then thats the locals problem. Revolt if you want, none of this legitimizes theft.
 
Voidwar said:
So six million Jews are oppressing a billion Muslims ?

I did not say that. The reference was to Palestinians

Not very believable. Could it perhaps be that they are not oppressing them at all, and that the people you are describing just want to kill Jews, and they are mad because we don't ? And that we make it pretty difficult ?

Could be. I just said the US should consider the factors.

But as I said, prisons in their country are much worse, so this don't fly either.

Apparently it is a factor from their perspective.

The Western Nationals still sank the investment, and still have the contract. If the government that held sway at the time was bad, then thats the locals problem. Revolt if you want, none of this legitimizes theft.

Then turn up the volume a little.
 
Hobbes said:
Voidwar wrote :

Bin Laden's crazy, this is crazy. Senseless violence. woohoo. Key phrase here "Hezbollah supporter" . Millions of people in the middle east support Hezbollah.


Then we need to reduce that number greatly because they are a danger to everything and everyone. If your a supporter of a terrorist group then you have to be looked at as a terrorist. sorry .. if you help them then you are a terrorist and should be dealt with accordingly
 
Calm2Chaos said:
Then we need to reduce that number greatly because they are a danger to everything and everyone. If your a supporter of a terrorist group then you have to be looked at as a terrorist. sorry .. if you help them then you are a terrorist and should be dealt with accordingly
I'd love to go more in depth but I only have 20 minutes.

Perhaps I am mistakening your meaning but someone sitting in egypt reading the paper decides they think what Hezbollah is doing is right. They now support Hezbollah; you're saying that makes them a terrorist?
 
Calm2Chaos said:
Then we need to reduce that number greatly because they are a danger to everything and everyone. If your a supporter of a terrorist group then you have to be looked at as a terrorist. sorry .. if you help them then you are a terrorist and should be dealt with accordingly

How do we "reduce that number greatly"? Assuming 99% of the Muslem world supports Hezbollah over Israel; which is probably true at the moment.
 
False assertion Irie.

If you outpace their birthrate, it is, and that is fact.
 
Voidwar said:
False assertion Irie.

If you outpace their birthrate, it is, and that is fact.

How can you outpace their birthrate with "attrition" so that my assertion is false?
 
Voidwar said:
False assertion Irie.

If you outpace their birthrate, it is, and that is fact.


But it's not easy to outpace the birthrates of those who are so terrorized by the thought that they could be killed at any moment for "honor", that they allow themselves to be used as little more than baby factories. There is a direct relationship between women's status in a society and the resultuing birth rate, and so the most misogynistic culture will always win the breeding race.
 
Iriemon said:
How can you outpace their birthrate with "attrition" so that my assertion is false?

Do you know the meaning of the word ?

It doesn't just mean by old age :)

Your question does not make sense.
 
Voidwar said:
Do you know the meaning of the word ?

It doesn't just mean by old age :)

Your question does not make sense.

No, I'm not sure how you mean it.

Calm2Chaos said we need to greatly reduce the number of Hezzbollah supporters, when I asked him what he meant, he cut n ran.

Then you said "attrition," and when I said not effective, you said it had to outpace their birthrate, which I guess is your explanation of how to greatly reduce the number of Hezbollah supporters.

I don't understand what you mean by "attrition" or how it could greatly reduce the number of Hezbollah supporters, which I pointed out would include about the entire Muslim population.

Please explain for us what "attrition" is in your meaning, and how you claim it would greatly reduce the number of Hezbollah supporters, as you claimed I made a "false assertion."

Thank you.
 
Get your own dictionary chief.

And next time, wait before responding, till you know what the words used in the post mean.
 
Voidwar said:
Get your own dictionary chief.

And next time, wait before responding, till you know what the words used in the post mean.

Thanks for that helpful explanation. Great debating. Another member of the cut-n-run club.
 
Your remedial english class is not my job.

I haven't gone anywhere.
 
Voidwar said:
Your remedial english class is not my job.

I haven't gone anywhere.

You make an assertion, I ask you to explain it, and you refuse.

Cut - n - run.

Or is there some reason why you are afraid to explain what you mean your proposal of greatly reducing the number of Muslims by "attrition"?
 
No, you didn't ask me to explain an assertion, you asked me to explain a nine letter english word. I am not your dictionary, lazyboy. Go fill in the holes in your knowledge / literacy base on your own time.
 
Voidwar said:
No, you didn't ask me to explain an assertion, you asked me to explain a nine letter english word. I am not your dictionary, lazyboy. Go fill in the holes in your knowledge / literacy base on your own time.

My sincere apologies.

Attrition: A gradual, natural reduction in membership or personnel, as through retirement, resignation, or death.

http://www.answers.com/topic/attrition

Please explain your assertion of how "a gradual, natural reduction in membership or personnel, as through retirement, resignation, or death" will greatly reduce the number of Hezbollah supporters -- ie Muslims. Or even exceed the birthrate. And why my comment that that would be "not effective" was a "false assertion".
 
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Self explanatory.

Learn what the word means and your question makes no sense.
 
Voidwar said:
Self explanatory.

Learn what the word means and your question makes no sense.

I edited my previous post for you.
 
So you are asking me how Death reduces numbers ? :roll:

The only meaning that fits in the context of the original post is the one I obviously meant.
Its not my problem if you are unfamiliar with the term.

Everyday is a chance to learn something, and now you know what attrition means, good for you.
 
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Hobbes said:
I'd love to go more in depth but I only have 20 minutes.

Perhaps I am mistakening your meaning but someone sitting in egypt reading the paper decides they think what Hezbollah is doing is right. They now support Hezbollah; you're saying that makes them a terrorist?

I am equating support with aid or apathy. If you are supporting them in any way, food, money, housing, medical, dental, foot rubs, arms, training.... Thats support. If you know of things and refuse to do anything or help in anyway as they slaughter innocent civilians. If you allow your house, block, neighborhood, or city to be used as base or a launching pad and you do nothing or say nothing thaqts apathy
 
Iriemon said:
How do we "reduce that number greatly"? Assuming 99% of the Muslem world supports Hezbollah over Israel; which is probably true at the moment.

Spiritual support or heart felt feelings don't count... I am talking about support through aid or apathy. If however they do support this terrorist organization in anyway whatsoever. I think we should keep a close eye on them, leastif there in this country
 
Iriemon said:
No, I'm not sure how you mean it.

Calm2Chaos said we need to greatly reduce the number of Hezzbollah supporters, when I asked him what he meant, he cut n ran.

Bite me... I have a job I had to actually do some work so I could not get right back to your question. I however have done so since. So you can feel free to disagree with it and post your rebuttal anytime
 
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