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How Putin might back out of Ukraine

RobertU

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Given Putin’s total control over Russian media, he has the option of eventually pulling out of Ukraine while still declaring victory, perhaps with language such as “Our special operation has succeeded in destroying the Nazi elements of the Ukraine military and our soldiers can now proudly return home.”

A precedent for a dictator backing out of a military stalemate can be found in the Iran-Iraq War, which lasted from 1980 to 1988. Saddam Hussein claimed victory although the end of the war resulted in no border changes.

In 1990 Saddam Hussein rode on a white horse under the newly created "Hands of Victory" monument to commemorate his declared victory over Iran in the Iran-Iraq war. The hands of the monument were created from casts of the dictator’s very own arms.

Hopefully, Putin won’t take eight years to declare victory and leave Ukraine.
 
How does Putin parlay world isolation and Russia's looming economic meltdown into a victory lap?
 
Hopefully Putin will do a better job exiting Ukraine than Biden did leaving Afghanistan.
 
How does Putin parlay world isolation and Russia's looming economic meltdown into a victory lap?
You arrest the family members of enough people and they soon begin to believe pretty much whatever you tell them to believe. Stalin did that 60 years ago and Kim does it today.
 
Hopefully Putin will do a better job exiting Ukraine than Biden did leaving Afghanistan.

Biden did a fantastic job leaving Afghanistan. Only 13 Americans died despite complete collapse of Afghan forces and 1000s evacuated successfully.

Right wingers just pretend that he failed because you know... he must fail at everything. :rolleyes:
 
You arrest the family members of enough people and they soon begin to believe pretty much whatever you tell them to believe. Stalin did that 60 years ago and Kim does it today.
They are going to have to start offing people to make holding room.
 
They are going to have to start offing people to make holding room.
Maybe. Then again, you can just use the ones you've already got as labor to build new prisons.
 
Biden did a fantastic job leaving Afghanistan. Only 13 Americans died despite complete collapse of Afghan forces and 1000s evacuated successfully.

Right wingers just pretend that he failed because you know... he must fail at everything. :rolleyes:
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Putin doesn't even really knows what he wants out of Ukraine, so he doesn't know what winning would be. Right now he is pressing for occupation of the whole country as the aim, which doesn't seem to go very well. If he changes his mind what winning means, then maybe, but we're far from that.
 
You arrest the family members of enough people and they soon begin to believe pretty much whatever you tell them to believe. Stalin did that 60 years ago and Kim does it today.
And Biden and his team of jackboots would do the same if we let them.
 
Right wingers just pretend that he failed because you know... he must fail at everything. :rolleyes:
Um. 56% of Americans polled think you don’t know what you’re talking about again.

56% of Americans blame Biden's chaotic Afghanistan withdrawal for Putin's invasion of Ukraine and more than half believe the Russian leader will use nuclear weapons, new poll shows​




Obama Advisor Axelrod Demands Biden Admit He Screwed Up On Afghanistan – ‘Obviously’ He Got The Intelligence Wrong​


 
Um. 56% of Americans polled think you don’t know what you’re talking about again.

So what? That does not make the 56% any more right. I think that number came down over time too.
 
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