How Much Money Do You Need To Deport All of Them?

[pocket aces]

You forgot to mention that the US Military could mine the entire border with extreme prejudice in mind.

I'm sure the ****tard right would love to watch pieces of people flying through the air. Live on Fox!

 

[US&THEM]

The democrats have absolutely no interest in stopping the flow of illegals into the country... NONE.

Unfortunately, the only solution is to vote democrats out of power in congress, the senate, and the oval office. Once that's done, the republicans must take measures to secure the border in such a way, that it prevents democrats from undoing it if they again regain power. The only thing I can think of that would achieve that, is to build the wall that Trump wanted. That way there won't be a huge influx of illegals for the democrats to ignore and allow in.

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Zero evidence but keep it going.

 

[KevinKohler]

What reasons are they coming for? Work? Better paying jobs?

Jobs, stability, a life. But jobs, first. No job, no money. No money, no roof over your head or food in your belly.

 

[US&THEM]

I posed this very question here, years ago.

Logistically, not worth the effort. You simply can't easily transport 1.4 million people. And then you gotta ask...transport to where? They're not all from Mexico. They may have come in via Mexico, but how do we get them out? At 60 people per bus, that's 23k buses. Sad to say, but the folks that are here...are gonna stay.

The real question is, how do we prevent the next 1.4 million? A wall? A fence?

How about, instead, we go after their reasons for coming in the first place?

The Immigration system is broken and needs real change legislation. No one will do it.

 

[StillBallin75]

Classical liberals for authoritarian border restrictions.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I think there is little doubt about that being the Biden plan and he is executing his plan flawlessly.

Not exactly - Biden sees using Title 42 as being a flaw.

 

[braindrain]

Of course you’d want to champion the cause of a politician who slept with underage girls as long as it involves the wholesale deportation of brown people.

That is pretty evident.

Pretending that this isn’t a cause that a large percentage of Americans agree with and instead being desperate to talk about anything except for the topic of the op says a whole lot more about you then it does the person who started this thread.

 

[trixare4kids]

Goodness what a vile and stupid post this is!

I thought the same... Like in Oh, the humanity!

 

[trixare4kids]

Not exactly - Biden sees using Title 42 as being a flaw.

I am not sure Biden is capable of seeing much, tbh.
There is no reason to cancel Title 42 in light of the fact Covid and its variants are on the upswing.
I have to wonder who is advising him.

 

[eohrnberger]

Not exactly - Biden sees using Title 42 as being a flaw.

Biden and his extremist leftist minions see anything which reduces the mass migrant influx as being flawed, clearly.
It is blatantly clear to anyone who is paying even the slightest bit of attention that this was their intent even before the 2020 lection results were announced.

It is further pretty clear that the leftists, progressives, liberals and Democrats see that influx of migrants as their future voter base, regardless of the expense and damage to the nation and it's electorate.

Given this, would anyone have any factually based foundation that the leftists, progressives, liberals and Democrats place the welfare of their nation and citizens as a priority?
That would obviously be not only a 'No' but a 'Hell ****ing No'. So the mystery become why so many voted for this at their own detriment?

 

[Gateman_Wen]

Representative Matt Gaetz Grills Mayorkas on Illegal Immigration.

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For those that refuse to view the video, Representative Matt Gaetz asks Secretary of the Dept. of Homeland Security a simple set of two questions.

First the facts presented by Mr. Gaetz.

1. There are 1.2 million people who have crossed the borders illegally and gone before an Immigration Judge who determined that they have no legal standing to remain in the USA and thereby issued a “final order of removal.” (8 CFR Section 1241.1).

2. That these 1.2 million people are still in the USA, un-detained as of the hearing.

Mr. Gaetz then asked Mr. Mayorkas two questions:

• How many ICE Agents do you need to deport them?
• How much money does ICE need to deport them?

Now even with appeals there should be some factual number of those who were ordered be removed, actually already removed by DHS. At the very least Mr. Mayorkas should have some idea of budget needs and personnel needs should his agency need to finally act to enforce the law if most remain unremoved.

But Mayorkas just deflects, deflects, deflects, until Matt Gaetz points out Mayorkas has the worst record of any DHS Secretary in history when it comes to Border Security.

It is clear to me that the current Administration has no plan to conduct a mass removal, and despite Mr. Gaetz repeated questions of how much money and how many agents/resources would be needed, Mr. Mayorkas simply can’t respond because his Dept. has no plans to remove any individuals who have made it into the system.

This is the problem. What is the solution?

Change of Administration with one that places American law and American citizens first, and enforces Immigration law prioritizing those who follow the proper procedures.

If those procedures are considered unsatisfactory, then have Congress modify the law.

But NOT simply flout the law due to some perceived political advantage.

Matty is making shit up.

 

[braindrain]

Classical liberals for authoritarian border restrictions.

Enforcement of immigration laws is not very authoritative. In fact virtually every single country on earth does it. But it’s pretty obvious why you want to pretend otherwise. Unfortunately you are not fooling anyone.

 

[Grim17]

It's impossible to permanently secure the border in such a way that it can't be bypassed or gone around somehow.

Israel has has been hugely successful with their walls, fences and barriers, and if they can do it, so can we.

Make it more difficult, sure.

If we completely secure our border with Mexico, there will always be a few who will manage to get in, just as is the case in Israel. The security fence on Israel's southern border reduced illegal entries from hundreds per month, to 16 for the entire year in 2016.

If we could reduce the number of illegal crossings to say1000 per month, that would be a hell of a lot better than the more than 2 million illegals that border patrol encountered in 2021.

The best way to reduce illegal border crossing by people trying to immigrate illegally would be to change the conditions at their points of origin so they don't feel the need to leave.

I'm sorry, but improving the quality of life for people living outside the US is not our government's responsibility. Our government's responsibility is to the American people, which includes protecting our safety from foreign invaders and the massive economic costs of feeding, housing and clothing them.

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[Grim17]

Zero evidence but keep it going.

Have you ever heard of the southern border?

How about the more than 2 million encounters with illegals that border patrol had to endure in 2021?

Did you forget that Biden got rid of the effective border policies from the Trump administration knowing full well that it would result in a huge number of people to illegally cross our southern border?

If you want evidence, I suggest you remove your head from the sand and simply open your eyes... It's really that simple.

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[The Mark]

Israel has has been hugely successful with their walls, fences and barriers, and if they can do it, so can we.



If we completely secure our border with Mexico, there will always be a few who will manage to get in, just as is the case in Israel. The security fence on Israel's southern border reduced illegal entries from hundreds per month, to 16 for the entire year in 2016.

If we could reduce the number of illegal crossings to say1000 per month, that would be a hell of a lot better than the more than 2 million illegals that border patrol encountered in 2021.



I'm sorry, but improving the quality of life for people living outside the US is not our government's responsibility. Our government's responsibility is to the American people, which includes protecting our safety from foreign invaders and the massive economic costs of feeding, housing and clothing them.

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Israel has much less border length to guard.

It may arguably not be our responsibility to improve living standards outside the USA, but doing so will reduce the number of people trying to cross our border illegally.

I'm actually curious if anyone has done a study comparing projected costs and benefits of doing that with projected costs and benefits of building/training more border security. It would be a bit speculative of course.

In theory, improving standards of living outside the USA would probably increase the level of consumption those people have, which would provide more markets some companies that employ people in the USA might be able to sell to.
But also increased consumption would likely increase emissions and then you run into the climate change issue.

 

[US&THEM]

Israel has has been hugely successful with their walls, fences and barriers, and if they can do it, so can we.



If we completely secure our border with Mexico, there will always be a few who will manage to get in, just as is the case in Israel. The security fence on Israel's southern border reduced illegal entries from hundreds per month, to 16 for the entire year in 2016.

If we could reduce the number of illegal crossings to say1000 per month, that would be a hell of a lot better than the more than 2 million illegals that border patrol encountered in 2021.



I'm sorry, but improving the quality of life for people living outside the US is not our government's responsibility. Our government's responsibility is to the American people, which includes protecting our safety from foreign invaders and the massive economic costs of feeding, housing and clothing them.

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Israel is the size of New Jersey, you think size matters?

 

[Grim17]

Israel has much less border length to guard.

It may arguably not be our responsibility to improve living standards outside the USA, but doing so will reduce the number of people trying to cross our border illegally.

I'm actually curious if anyone has done a study comparing projected costs and benefits of doing that with projected costs and benefits of building/training more border security. It would be a bit speculative of course.

In theory, improving standards of living outside the USA would probably increase the level of consumption those people have, which would provide more markets some companies that employ people in the USA might be able to sell to.
But also increased consumption would likely increase emissions and then you run into the climate change issue.

If we completely secure our border, and there is some humanitarian crisis in central or south America, I have no issue with us kicking in some relief funds... But the truth of the matter is, the people crossing our border illegally are the victims of oppressive regimes that are torturing and starving them to death... They are simply people that by our standards are poor and show up at our border because of the government pie they can get a piece of thanks to the free pass being offered by the Biden administration.

Do you think the huge influx of illegal immigrants crossing the border coinciding with Biden becoming president, was just a big coincidence?

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[US&THEM]

Have you ever heard of the southern border?

How about the more than 2 million encounters with illegals that border patrol had to endure in 2021?

Did you forget that Biden got rid of the effective border policies from the Trump administration knowing full well that it would result in a huge number of people to illegally cross our southern border?

If you want evidence, I suggest you remove your head from the sand and simply open your eyes... It's really that simple.

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Why do they flock here? Supply and demand, maybe? The current Immigration laws are archaic, we live in a global economy and have to deal with the global issues that come along with it.

 

[Grim17]

Israel is the size of New Jersey, you think size matters?

We have the technology, the resources, and the man power to secure that border... But unfortunately we have a presidential administration that supports open borders and has no regard for the economic and societal devastation that multi millions of illegal immigrants will cause.

 

[US&THEM]

We have the technology, the resources, and the man power to secure that border... But unfortunately we have a presidential administration that supports open borders and has no regard for the economic and societal devastation that multi millions of illegal immigrant will cause.

We have spent billions and here we are buddy

 

[Common Sense 1]

Please stop with this nutty posting.
Break our immigration law and you should be deported.

Go ahead right wing idiots. Deport them all. When the economy crashes you can just blame it on the Democrats like the spineless ****s you are..

 

[US&THEM]

Please stop with this nutty posting.
Break our immigration law and you should be deported.

Naive

 

[The Mark]

If we completely secure our border, and there is some humanitarian crisis in central or south America, I have no issue with us kicking in some relief funds... But the truth of the matter is, the people crossing our border illegally are the victims of oppressive regimes that are torturing and starving them to death... They are simply people that by our standards are poor and show up at our border because of the government pie they can get a piece of thanks to the free pass being offered by the Biden administration.

Do you think the huge influx of illegal immigrants crossing the border coinciding with Biden becoming president, was just a big coincidence?

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That may be, I don't know the stats offhand.

But I tend to think that it'd be better to improve the standard of living in their country of origin, rather than lower their potential standards of living in the USA.

There's also the question of whether we helped that oppressive regime remain in power for one of our imperial goals in the past, or currently.

 

[Grim17]

Why do they flock here?

We all know why... Because the Biden administration has put out the welcome mat for them, and they want a big ol' slice of that US government pie.

Supply and demand, maybe? The current Immigration laws are archaic, we live in a global economy and have to deal with the global issues that come along with it.

Archaic? Limiting the number and the quality of people we allow in our country is sound operating procedure for any nation. Right now it's a GD free-for-all at the southern border for drug smugglers, terrorist, human traffickers, and violent criminals who are fleeing justice from their own country.

Global economy does not equal open borders.

 

[US&THEM]

We all know why... Because the Biden administration has put out the welcome mat for them, and they want a big ol' slice of that US government pie.



Archaic? Limiting the number and the quality of people we allow in our country is sound operating procedure for any nation. Right now it's a GD free-for-all at the southern border for drug smugglers, terrorist, human traffickers, and violent criminals who are fleeing justice from their own country.

Global economy does not equal open borders.

Find one truthful intelligent person who deals with our immigration laws/system and think it is not archaic. Nothing is simple and the laws are so outdated it makes it impossible to do simple things.