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How much did Thailand, Indonesia etc send to us after 911?

Pacridge said:
What the heck is wrong with people? Something bad happens to you- SUE! Can't figure out who's to blame? Sue the person, company or government with the most cash.

What's wrong? There are people who blame the U.S. for everthing bad that happens. What else is new?
 
Naughty Nurse said:
What is that? :rofl

I've never read so much drivel in my life! It even refers to the British Liberal Democrats as socialists! :screwy

I'm a little lost Naughty, Are you saying this site is full of s**t and there is no law suit? Or just that they, like myself, have no clue when it comes to Brit. Politics?

On a different matter I was flipping the TV clicker late last night and came across a B horror movie- some "Bride of Chucky" thing I think I like Jennifer Tilly in that roll better then the "horse" how 'bout you?
 
Batman said:
The most comforting part of Fried Rice's comment:
"While i was in the USA.."
meaning he no longer is.

Regret to advise batman but i will be back next month !!

Your message did make me laugh :D

Fried Rice hates Immigration at USA
 
Pacridge said:
I'm a little lost Naughty, Are you saying this site is full of s**t and there is no law suit? Or just that they, like myself, have no clue when it comes to Brit. Politics?

Don't know about the lawsuit, but that whole phalanx site had me howling! Talk about putting a certain :spin: on everything.

Pacridge said:
On a different matter I was flipping the TV clicker late last night and came across a B horror movie- some "Bride of Chucky" thing I think I like Jennifer Tilly in that roll better then the "horse" how 'bout you?

I think The Horse would be more suited to Bride of Frankenstein :razz:
 
Pacridge said:
Well, you're close. You're only off by about 900 million. Here's a link that will tell you that Bush has increased the amount of US from 350 million to 950 million. The 50 million number you're quoting was stated about 4 hours after the event and before anyone had any idea as to the extent of the disaster.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/02/10/news/tsunami.html

"WASHINGTON President George W. Bush has pledged almost to triple the U.S. contribution for countries devastated by the tsunami, bringing the total to nearly 950 million."

I find it ironic that you would mention "Desperate Housewives" The network, ABC, that airs that show did in fact do a two hour primetime special on the tsunami. While it wasn't a telethon they did start each segment and go to each break with a public service announcement letting people know where and how they could contribute funds to help the relief effort. The other two main US networks, NBC & CBS, also aired specials with the same type format requesting donations to relief agencies. So, telethons? No. Effective? Yes. According the Red Cross they collected $15,745,701.06 due to events such as these.

Oh Packridge, the USA only increased the amount after worldwide comdemnation about the pathetic first offer. Why, you the big 'powerful' USA cant even match the contibution from Australia (19 million people). You mean the Red Cross has collected over $15 Billion dollars from telethons ? No doubt the US$701.06 was USA contribution.
 
Fried Rice said:
the USA only increased the amount after worldwide comdemnation about the pathetic first offer.

It's strange how people that hate the USA want so much money and resources from us. Good thing for you we help out regardless of your :bs .
 
Fried Rice said:
Oh Packridge, the USA only increased the amount after worldwide comdemnation about the pathetic first offer. Why, you the big 'powerful' USA cant even match the contibution from Australia (19 million people). You mean the Red Cross has collected over $15 Billion dollars from telethons ? No doubt the US$701.06 was USA contribution.

Let me get this straight. First you said the US gave a total of 50 million. Then when I pointed out that you were off by 900 million- you change your compliant and are now complaining that our reason for contributing isn't to your liking. Very interesting. My guess is no mater what we gave or when we gave it, you would find something to dislike. Kind of makes me sorry I gave any cash at all. But then I remember I'm not giving to satisfy the likes of you. I'm giving because people are in need.

And I can honestly say I have no idea what you're trying to say with this comment: "You mean the Red Cross has collected over $15 Billion dollars from telethons ? No doubt the US$701.06 was USA contribution"
 
Pacridge said:
Let me get this straight. First you said the US gave a total of 50 million. Then when I pointed out that you were off by 900 million- you change your compliant and are now complaining that our reason for contributing isn't to your liking. Very interesting. My guess is no mater what we gave or when we gave it, you would find something to dislike. Kind of makes me sorry I gave any cash at all. But then I remember I'm not giving to satisfy the likes of you. I'm giving because people are in need.

No pacridge, my point is that the amount was only increased after much International condemnation. It was just a face saving tactic. what the Americans should have done to win friends (remember Aceh is mainly muslim) was offer a huge amount from day 1, say US$2bn. Instead it looked like an small, insulting amount of money, especially when compared to amounts spent in Iraq etc

Fried Rice For A Happy World
 
Fried RiceNo pacridge said:
Well, I'm still going to disagree with you. But I understand the point you're trying to make. The way I see it we increased the amount based on the need. I know the day it happened the amount was going to be 50 million and by the next day it was something like 200. Then it went it 350. Now it's 950. That number may grow again.

You made some comment about the amount the Aussies were giving where did you find that figure?

As far as what we're spending in Iraq. There's a whole lot of Americans not thrilled that their tax dollars are being used in this manner. But there's a bunch that think we're doing the right thing too. Internally we are very divided over this issue. Personally I was all for going after Osama and going into Afghanistan, he attacked us I thought we had the right to hunt him down. When we shifted gears and went into Iraq I was none too happy about it. In the end only time and history will tell.
 
Pacridge said:
Well, I'm still going to disagree with you. But I understand the point you're trying to make. The way I see it we increased the amount based on the need. I know the day it happened the amount was going to be 50 million and by the next day it was something like 200. Then it went it 350. Now it's 950. That number may grow again.

You made some comment about the amount the Aussies were giving where did you find that figure?

As far as what we're spending in Iraq. There's a whole lot of Americans not thrilled that their tax dollars are being used in this manner. But there's a bunch that think we're doing the right thing too. Internally we are very divided over this issue. Personally I was all for going after Osama and going into Afghanistan, he attacked us I thought we had the right to hunt him down. When we shifted gears and went into Iraq I was none too happy about it. In the end only time and history will tell.

Glad you understand my point. The amount pledged by Australia was immediately US$350m and is now over US$1bn, not including personal donations etc. i think this is amazing for country of 19 million people. Even here in China we have pledged many hundreds of millions and normally we would never make such contributions.
 
America has always been in the position of "damned if you do, damned if you don't."

Since "doing" is not working let's try "don't" for a while and see how the world likes that.

Let start leaning more toward a Isolationist nation.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
If it keeps you out of everybody else's business, yes please.

Remember that the next time you need us or 1000's of U.S. soldiers.
 
I have to admit that after reading a few more of the articles at thephalanx.com a lot of them did have an obvious spin but not always in the direct I expected. Some seemed conservative (obviously) but looking at some of the past article there were a few that were more liberal like gay rights and teh conferdate flag of all things.
 
Batman said:
Remember that the next time you need us or 1000's of U.S. soldiers.

In your dreams.

And before you rake up the old world war 2 argument let's not forget you came late (you came in because of Pearl Harbour, not because of altruism). It's good that you helped defeat Hitler, but that's ancient history babe. And don't even think of mentioning the "threat" of communism.

In recent times you have arrogantly destabilised democratically elected governments (e.g. in Chile) and horsed your imperialist way in wherever you felt your own economic interests would be best served. You prop up vile dictatorships when it suits you (Uzbekistan) and prattle on like you invented human rights, when your own country is a hotbed of inequality and disadvantage (how many "white" southern neighbourhoods could I take my black boyfriend into???) Us need you? Never. Need your soldiers? I'd prefer they weren't being killed in the name of Bush and his cronies.
 
Urethra Franklin said:
let's not forget you came late

Let's not forget the U.S. fighter pilots that volunteered to help protect England before Pearl Harbor babe.

I'm sure all of Europe is glad to have you decline our future help.
 
Batman said:
Let's not forget the U.S. fighter pilots that volunteered to help protect England before Pearl Harbor babe.

I'm sure all of Europe is glad to have you decline our future help.

hi Batman, i think the offer was after Pearl Harbour - before that your president was willing to tuen a blind eye to Hitler etc

Fried Rice Got Wet Today
 
Fried Rice said:
hi Batman, i think the offer was after Pearl Harbour - before that your president was willing to tuen a blind eye to Hitler etc

Fried Rice Got Wet Today

If you know anything about American history, you'd understand this. We were in the middle of a depression. We didn't have the resources to make war before then. But when Pearl Harbor happened, we had no choice but to declare war on Japan. Hitler then declared war on us.
 
anomaly said:
If you know anything about American history, you'd understand this. We were in the middle of a depression. We didn't have the resources to make war before then. But when Pearl Harbor happened, we had no choice but to declare war on Japan. Hitler then declared war on us.

I disagee - your ecomony sucks at the moment but look what you are doing Afghanistan, Iraq, amybe Iran and North Korea.....
 
Fried Rice said:
I disagee - your ecomony sucks at the moment but look what you are doing Afghanistan, Iraq, amybe Iran and North Korea.....

But now we have, and have had since the cold war, a well supplied, very advanced army. In the prelude the WW2 we had a very bad army, until the mass production to prepare for it. But in 1939, the start of the war, we didn't have the means economically or militarily to make war.
 
As bad as U.F. hates to admit it, if it was not for America all of Europe would be talking German. American blood spilled to prevent that. I know it was an embarrassing moment in histroy for you. However, I don't know, a simple "thanks" would be nice (an mean it).
 
Thor said:
As bad as U.F. hates to admit it, if it was not for America all of Europe would be talking German. American blood spilled to prevent that. I know it was an embarrassing moment in histroy for you. However, I don't know, a simple "thanks" would be nice (an mean it).

Quite why you're not speaking French is a mystery, since you owe your independence to Lafayette. A simple thanks would be nice, but as we're not children, we're not smarting over it. That statue of liberty you have. Nice gift wasn't it?

It's amazing you speak European languages at all, seeing as there are some very rich languages spoken by the original inhabitants of your land. Strange that as immigrants you didn't learn the language of your new home, but then that's an embarrassing moment in your history isn't it?

Now Thor, we could go on and on Fantasea style citing this and that in our respective continents histories, but it would all be rather irrelevent to the here and now. A large majority of the world detests what the USA is doing NOW and what you did or didn't do in the war is frankly, irrelevant: though if you really think that Europe is so ungrateful for American/Canadian participation in the liberation of Europe, I suggest you visit the Normandy beaches and witness the memorials and public statements of gratitude that have been put their in your honour. Just how many more 'thank you's' do you want? And for how long?
 
Urethra Franklin said:
It's amazing you speak European languages at all, seeing as there are some very rich languages spoken by the original inhabitants of your land. Strange that as immigrants you didn't learn the language of your new home, but then that's an embarrassing moment in your history isn't it?

That's an interesting point. Conservatives are constantly saying "This is America- speak English!, want to live here learn the language" that comments usually directed at someone from across our southern border. Yet when we first got here English certainly wasn't the common the language. And you're right what we did the locals was nothing short of shameful. Of course now days they're winning the country back, one double down at a time.
 
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