Verthaine
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Great idea,but the problem here is that the sociopaths here don't want to pay for it.
I don't know. Its an amazing city with a lot of history and culture. At the same time I estimated the numbers and if I was right (probably wasn't, the cost to rebuild it would be about $500,000 per resident. If I lived in NOLA and was offered $500,000 to leave and start over somewhere else or stay while Uncle Sam uses that money to rebuild the city for you and your fellow New Orleanians, I'd take the money and get out of dodge. Mom, Dad and two kids would get $2 million to relocate to wherever they want. Who wouldn't?
Then hand over the city to the a dozen of the top civil engineering universities in America and the US Army Corp of Engineers to bulldoze and smartly rebuild it, if possible permanently fixing the under sea level issues. 10 to 15 years later auction off parcels of it to developers to recoup the costs of buying out former residents and re-engineering costs to the university and the Army.
New Orleans isn't being destroyed as we speak.The levees are holding out.Why does it seem so many people here seem disappointed at that rather than being thankful that there is no lose of human life?
Just because people are "stupid" as you people put it,does not mean you should delight in their suffering.Since you by your own admittance have done stupid things,should people delight in your suffering?
You are right,sociopaths don't feel pleasure like normal human beings do.You seem to associating "don't have sympahty" with delighting in suffering. They are not the same thing.
I am not rooting for them to be killed, even though the majority of them are Obama loving socialist liberal assholes that mankind and our country would be better off without.
As a taoist I also realize that the ancient chinese "prophets" had more respect,compassion and understanding for their fellow human beings and human nature than you yourself are showing.
Do you realize the cost of abandoning New Orleans?What about Grand Isle and the rest of Plaquemines Parish.Or any place else that has frequent disasters?
Miami may not be sinking but it does get hit quite frequently by hurricanes.
Are you willing to help pay for the cost?
Where should all those people go?
A large coastal city that's actually lower than sea level.
A place surrounded by levy's to keep water out under normal conditions.
Prone to hurricane strikes.
Why do we keep trying to rebuild this place?
Is it time to let nature have it back?
You are right,sociopaths don't feel pleasure like normal human beings do.
So you get to decide who our species should do without?
Narcissism and megalomania.Classic symptoms of a sociopath.
Yeah, it's completely expendable. Condemn it, get the people out, sink it, no more problems. It was stupid to build a city there in the first place, and it's not like we'll be losing some great cultural center of humanity.
Gee, go figure, it was the French that decided to build there in the first place.
New Orleans is geographically located at the mouth of the Mississippi River, and is therefore one of the most important ports in the United States. Wherever you have a major port, you're going to have a major city. For this reason, choosing not to rebuild it simply isn't an option.
Are you saying there is something wrong with making money?You are most certainly not a Taoist is you moved from a place you truly loved to some place else simply to make more money.
Where have I said that?All I have been saying that there are myriad of reasons why people live where they live.Stupidity is not the only reason.You are also most surely not a Taoist for thinking it's man's right to combat nature and earth in the way we are doing it in New Orleans.
Why?Sociopaths never seem to have a problem rationalizing their actions.Stop calling everybody a sociopath for discussing something fundamentally rational.
Would you build a house inside the crater of a once active volcano?
Would you build a house on a major floor plain?
Would you build a house on the slope of a mountain where major avalanches are common at least once a decade?
Would you move your family into any one of those houses and sleep soundly at night?
I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?Of course it's an option.
This isn't the 1700's.
There are ways of shipping things into and out of the country that don't require the exact geographic location where NO sits now.
Go a bit farther up river until you find a spot that is NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL.
Of course it's an option.
This isn't the 1700's.
There are ways of shipping things into and out of the country that don't require the exact geographic location where NO sits now.
Go a bit farther up river until you find a spot that is NOT BELOW SEA LEVEL.
I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?
I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?
Apparently not anymore.We live in an age of "I got mine,screw everyone else".It's every man and woman for themselves.Isn't aiding other American in time of crisis what we do as a people?
Canada?If Americans were to vacate every part of the nation with risk attached, what would be left?
Apparently not Chicago,Miami,or Texas.The North east part of New England has brutal winters that kill lots of people annually and ocean front that people drown in and boats capsize in.
The South gets hit by storms and hurricanes wreaking death and devastation periodically.
The midwest is known as tornado alley and the area bordering the Mississippi River has known lethal floods wiping out homes and even entire towns.
The southwest is hit by drought almost every year it seems.
California is in a major earthquake zone and has devastating fires.
Where do we jam those 311 million people that is safe?
And those are real human people living in that part of the real world.People who have friends,family and other people who love them.
In the real world,apparently there are a lot of sociopaths who delight in the thought of or just don't care about humans suffering.
Apparently not Chicago,Miami,or Texas.
Not at all.I am pointing out that there are myriad of reasons why people live and stay where they are?
Are you saying that a mass exodus/evacuation of over 300,000 people from a major is a simple thing of a matter of free will?
Where shall all those people go? What do you suggest oh great and wise ancient philosopher?
I'm still waiting for someone to detail how such a feat can be done and how to,pay for it?
Sure it is,and a taoist would ask,where do you put the people.How do you move that many people without causing human suffering.Seems like a simple common sense question.You seem to have all the answers.From a Taoist standpoint, wouldn't allowing nature to take back that specific area of the planet actually save lives and put an end to much human suffering?
A taoist would understand that there may be a way to work with nature to protect the city rather than wholesale abandoning it just because someone who lives hundreds and hundreds a miles away says they shoud.Working with nature, and not against it?
Wu wei (look it up).I do not live in that area,and neither do you.If you truly want to do what is best for people in that area, you would not make it easier for them to stay there would you?
If there's a large, starving population living in an area where no food can be grown, and little water is available, would you be helping them by sending them food and water? Or would it be better for all to relocate them to some place where they can grow food and have their own water?
Port of Houston.
Port of Houston.
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