How does the racism in Europe differ from racism in the US?

[Juks]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand the comments and arguments off the antiracists here on this Forum. I know the reason for that is that our reference framework are very different. There is an economical motivated side that is rooted in slavery that we don't have. And the political and economical powers integration with racism are very much to blame in the US. In Europe (and Sweden) the economic advantages of having an "owned " workingforce is not as resent and very much connected to a white workingforce(serfdom and for Sweden: bondage). Can you see the difference that this leads to and that you are sometimes missunderstood by idiots like me because things that are self-evident for you renders queries from people like me even though we both, at the end have the same view?

I can see it but there is a mist before me that makes it hard to really get a grip on it.

 

[Phys251]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand the comments and arguments off the antiracists here on this Forum. I know the reason for that is that our reference framework are very different. There is an economical motivated side that is rooted in slavery that we don't have. And the political and economical powers integration with racism are very much to blame in the US. In Europe (and Sweden) the economic advantages of having an "owned " workingforce is not as resent and very much connected to a white workingforce(serfdom and for Sweden: bondage). Can you see the difference that this leads to and that you are sometimes missunderstood by idiots like me because things that are self-evident for you renders queries from people like me even though we both, at the end have the same view?

I can see it but there is a mist before me that makes it hard to really get a grip on it.

Racism can include an systemic reaction against a perceived loss of power. This partly but not completely accounts for racism in the US, and perhaps it accounts for a lot more of the racism growing in Western Europe.

 

[gino]

I have a problem when lily-white countries, like Sweden, call the US racist.

 

[TheParser]

I have read that before World War II, there were very few non-Caucasians in Europe.


So Europeans were very kind to them and considered them as rather exotic.

Today, however, there are a lot of non-Caucasians in Europe.

I have read that besides many ladies & gentlemen from the Middle East, more and more young gentlemen from sub-Sahara Africa are emigrating to Europe.

So maybe some Europeans are beginning to ask: "Do we really want to have the unpleasant ethnic relations that roil the United States?"

 

[nvflash]

Jordan Vanderwhite doesn't mind the colored people that clean his pool and mow his lawn, he just doesn't want them dating his daughters.

 

[swing_voter]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand the comments and arguments off the antiracists here on this Forum. I know the reason for that is that our reference framework are very different. There is an economical motivated side that is rooted in slavery that we don't have. And the political and economical powers integration with racism are very much to blame in the US. In Europe (and Sweden) the economic advantages of having an "owned " workingforce is not as resent and very much connected to a white workingforce(serfdom and for Sweden: bondage). Can you see the difference that this leads to and that you are sometimes missunderstood by idiots like me because things that are self-evident for you renders queries from people like me even though we both, at the end have the same view?

I can see it but there is a mist before me that makes it hard to really get a grip on it.

Europe doesn't know when it's being racist.

Or maybe they don't care.


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[Juks]

So now I get missunderstood again. To clearify: There is racism in Europe (and in Sweden)and there is racism in US. But they are differently constructed due to different framworks. It is hard to walk outside your own framework, hence I see it but not clearly. Are you better equipt to see it and can you identify the differences easily?

 

[Sweden]

I have a problem when lily-white countries, like Sweden, call the US racist.

 

[MamboDervish]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand the comments and arguments off the antiracists here on this Forum. I know the reason for that is that our reference framework are very different. There is an economical motivated side that is rooted in slavery that we don't have. And the political and economical powers integration with racism are very much to blame in the US. In Europe (and Sweden) the economic advantages of having an "owned " workingforce is not as resent and very much connected to a white workingforce(serfdom and for Sweden: bondage). Can you see the difference that this leads to and that you are sometimes missunderstood by idiots like me because things that are self-evident for you renders queries from people like me even though we both, at the end have the same view?

I can see it but there is a mist before me that makes it hard to really get a grip on it.

Racism takes many forms all over the world, but the question not often enough asked is: Who stands to profit from it? Because those are the insidious forces that perpetuate it for their own evil enterprise.

A great case in point is the recent history of Yugoslavia. For generations there was peace and harmony, a homogeneous "Yugoslavian" identity, including integrated neighborly affections, and even a lot of intermarriage. But with the dissolution of the central authority, the rise of ethnic strongmen, and their subsequent control of the media, the nation devolved into at least 6 different counties - really for no damned reason. Ethnic and racial tensions were fostered where they hadn't existed for generations, just so a handful of ambitious men could become king of their own little hill. It got to the point where families were displaced, and spouses separated, just for their own protection. But it was all contrived and manipulated by those who thought they could profit from it.

Whenever I look at racism, on any continent, anywhere in the world, I try to remember that example, and ask myself who stands to profit from it. It is an important added context to the often oversimplified discussion of racism.

 

[Sweden]

Lily white? As of Dec 1919 19.6% of the Swedish population were foreign porn. The most common country of origin being Syria. 'Swedes' of Near Eastern, Other Asian or African descent, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd generation, are now nearing 25%.

Very few Americans have even a sketchy idea of Swedish and other European demographics.

 

[AGENT J]

Racism takes many forms all over the world, but the question not often enough asked is: Who stands to profit from it? Because those are the insidious forces that perpetuate it for their own evil enterprise.

A great case in point is the recent history of Yugoslavia. For decades there was peace and harmony, a homogeneous "Yugoslavian" identity, including integrated neighborly affections, and even a lot of intermarriage. But with the dissolution of the central authority, the rise of ethnic strongmen, and their subsequent control of the media, the nation devolved into at least 6 different counties - really for no damned reason. Ethnic and racial tensions were fostered where the hadn't existed for generations, just so a handful of ambitious men could become king of their own little hill. It got to the point where families were displaced, and spouses separated, just for their own protection. But it was all contrived and manipulated by those who thought they could profit from it.

Whenever I look at racism, on any continent, anywhere in the world, I try to remember that example, and ask myself who stands to profit from it. It is an important added context to the often oversimplified discussion of racism.

DIng DIng Ding . . .
money and power is a LARGE part of it . . then its spoon-feed or taught to the masses. Many reject it, the weak embrace it but if its coming down from the top or those in power/influence it doesnt matter.

 

[Sweden]

So now I get missunderstood again. To clearify: There is racism in Europe (and in Sweden)and there is racism in US. But they are differently constructed due to different framworks. It is hard to walk outside your own framework, hence I see it but not clearly. Are you better equipt to see it and can you identify the differences easily?

Every time I see one of your posts I am reminded how much I detested the USSR's little pet Olof Palme.

(His image can be seen in the avatar).

 

[gino]

But how long have they been there? Wait until we see if your great experiment works or not.

 

[Manc Skipper]

It's little old now, but here's one American's take on British racism.

 

[ataraxia]

I have read that before World War II, there were very few non-Caucasians in Europe.


So Europeans were very kind to them and considered them as rather exotic.

Today, however, there are a lot of non-Caucasians in Europe.

I have read that besides many ladies & gentlemen from the Middle East, more and more young gentlemen from sub-Sahara Africa are emigrating to Europe.

So maybe some Europeans are beginning to ask: "Do we really want to have the unpleasant ethnic relations that roil the United States?"

Humans have always been tribal. Before all this, the Germans hated the French and Vice versa, and everyone hated the Poles. Even in a place as small as the British isles, you had the Celts and the Angles and the Saxons and the Normans and the Romans and the Irish and the Scots and the Welsh and the etc, etc… all at each others’ throats for centuries.

It’s all just a rather arbitrary drawing of the lines of who we consider “one of us” vs who is the sinister and alien “other”. Once that line is drawn in our brain, some very profound neurological and psychological distinctions happen in our brain in how we see perceive each other.

Neuroscientists have recently been making very interesting new discoveries in this area of how and why these brain pathways have evolved, how they work, and the triggers that can get them going:

 

[VanceMack]

Cant speak for the European racism. Maybe its just because they are SO homogeneous.

Our country was making tremendous strides...til 2008 rolled around. We are mired hip deep in it again but for the most part it is because of piece of shit leftists and Marxists stirring up racial hatred and using it to achieve their political agendas and goal to 'fundamentally change' who we are as a country.

People would be well served to understand just how much better we are in the realm of race relations than most parts of the world. You dont know racism til you travel to Asia. You dont know racism til you travel to the Middle East. Perfect? NO...and things have in the last 15 years gotten worse, not better. But for the VAST MAJORITY of ALL Americans...we are and things are better.

 

[Sweden]

But how long have they been there? Wait until we see if your great experiment works or not.

No need to wait! The mass migrations into Sweden, the UK and other European countries are already disastrous.

 

[AGENT J]

Lily white? As of Dec 1919 19.6% of the Swedish population were foreign porn. The most common country of origin being Syria. 'Swedes' of Near Eastern, Other Asian or African descent, 1st, 2nd, or 3rd generation, are now nearing 25%.

Very few Americans have even a sketchy idea of Swedish and other European demographics.

I believe the point the other poster was making, and correct me if im wrong, is doesnt Sweeden have like 10 million people and less than 200K are black? I mean thats not even 3%
Syrians are Caucasians for most purposes even if people have a problem with their "ethnicity"

So while a term like lily-white might not fit for those looking at ethnicity and not seeing them as Caucasian (not saying YOU speaking in general because we do that in america too) the vast majority of Sweden is caucasian by a good bit right? you certainly dont have 13% blacks ( which would be 1.3 million) or 6% Asian (which would be 600,000)

or like we magically do in America somehow separate out Latinos (which is an ethnicity) at 18% which for Sweden would be 1.8 million.

America is 60% white alone (non latino) and I believe thats the difference that was being referred too

like i said correct me if im wrong because i didnt look it up, just going by what I thought i read a few years ago lol so i could be way off.

 

[AGENT J]

Cant speak for the European racism. Maybe its just because they are SO homogeneous.

Our country was making tremendous strides...til 2008 rolled around. We are mired hip deep in it again but for the most part it is because of piece of shit leftists and Marxists stirring up racial hatred and using it to achieve their political agendas and goal to 'fundamentally change' who we are as a country.

People would be well served to understand just how much better we are in the realm of race relations than most parts of the world. You dont know racism til you travel to Asia. You dont know racism til you travel to the Middle East. Perfect? NO...and things have in the last 15 years gotten worse, not better. But for the VAST MAJORITY of ALL Americans...we are and things are better.

This is hilarious and a perfect example of whats wrong with certain views in america. To actually believe tin foil hat nutter like this takes a lot of topical dishonesty, ignorance and or hatred.

But luckily the majority of educated, honest, objective people right left and center dont take it seriously

 

[j brown's body]

Humans have always been tribal. Before all this, the Germans hated the French and Vice versa, and everyone hated the Poles. Even in a place as small as the British isles, you had the Celts and the Angles and the Saxons and the Normans and the Romans and the Irish and the Scots and the Welsh and the etc, etc… all at each others’ throats for centuries.

It’s all just a rather arbitrary drawing of the lines of who we consider “one of us” vs who is the sinister and alien “other”. Once that line is drawn in our brain, some very profound neurological and psychological distinctions happen in our brain in how we see perceive each other.

Neuroscientists have recently been making very interesting new discoveries in this area of how and why these brain pathways have evolved, how they work, and the triggers that can get them going:

The difference is that one might become French or German. One cannot really become white.

 

[Sweden]

Sorry but soon as I see the meaningless words 'black' and 'caucasian' I stop reading.

The second was invented by ignorant Germans in the 1780s and was as stupid then as it is now.

Caucasian race - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[NatMorton]

It is sometimes hard for me to understand the comments and arguments off the antiracists here on this Forum. I know the reason for that is that our reference framework are very different. There is an economical motivated side that is rooted in slavery that we don't have. And the political and economical powers integration with racism are very much to blame in the US. In Europe (and Sweden) the economic advantages of having an "owned " workingforce is not as resent and very much connected to a white workingforce(serfdom and for Sweden: bondage). Can you see the difference that this leads to and that you are sometimes missunderstood by idiots like me because things that are self-evident for you renders queries from people like me even though we both, at the end have the same view?

I can see it but there is a mist before me that makes it hard to really get a grip on it.

Um, whom do you think established, and profited from, slavery in the Americas of not the Europeans, the natives?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

I have a problem when lily-white countries, like Sweden, call the US racist.

Just imagine how Black people in this country feel about it!

 

[j brown's body]

One could do a nifty diagram showing the similarities and differences of racism in Europe and the Unuted States. What would go in the middle?

Whiteness - a dominant culture based on inclusion and exclusion.

 

[aociswundumho]

Every time I see one of your posts I am reminded how much I detested the USSR's little pet Olof Palme.

Palme was a real piece of shit, and like his US counterpart Bernie Sanders, he praised murderous scumbags like Castro and Guevara.