How does redefining marriage harm society? (1 Viewer)

[Alex]

I have read posts that declare marriage is the "cornerstone" of society and that if marriage were altered, society would be harmed. I want to know how is that true? Why is marriage the "cornerstone" of society? What specifically would happen if marriage were redefined? What harm could it possibly bring?

 

[tecoyah]

Lower tax revenues...other than that, I got Nothin'

 

[Alex]

Lower tax revenues...other than that, I got Nothin'

LOL. I say lower taxes are a good thing no matter how they happen.

 

[wackestmc]

It all depends. If we redefined marriage as " homosexuals who beat heterosexuals violently under legal contract" , then the heteros would be screwed.
But it's not like that; gay America doesn't want marriage to be redefined as anything harmful or dangerous, they just want the same sort of legal contract that heteros get. I see this as a socially positive and constructive thing.
It's sort of like in the 50's, if you were to say that redefining civil rights to include blacks and other minorities was harmful to society.

 

[FallingPianos]

I have read posts that declare marriage is the "cornerstone" of society and that if marriage were altered, society would be harmed. I want to know how is that true? Why is marriage the "cornerstone" of society? What specifically would happen if marriage were redefined? What harm could it possibly bring?

marriage has been defined in many different ways in different societies through-out history, but society still seems to exist.

 

[JustineCredible]

What bothers me, being the resident lesbian in a long-term and committed relationship in which we are raising a teenage son, is the use of the word "marriage" in that statement.
The real "cornerstone" of society are families!

Groups of adults raising children to be honest, hardworking citizens. My son (mine biologically and because he was concieved and born before my current relationship) is being raised by two parental figures who love him, respect him as a soon to be adult, teach him values of being a good person, honest, caring and compassionate as well as contributing to his community.
But we aren't the sole influences on his life.
My brother plays a significant father figure role, along with my cousins, Uncle, my own father, my partners Uncle.
My son's friends families also play roles in his life.

My son's best friend happens to be gay. He just came out a few months ago. His parents are still very loving and accepting of their son, and loving of my son who is most definitely straight, but raised by a lesbian couple.
We're all close friends and this has a lot to do with how my son is raised.

It's families which are the cornerstone of society, not marriages.
My partner and I aren't legally married, but we're still a family.

 

[jfuh]

What bothers me, being the resident lesbian in a long-term and committed relationship in which we are raising a teenage son, is the use of the word "marriage" in that statement.
The real "cornerstone" of society are families!

:shock:Rock on!:rock:

 

[nineplus]

It's families which are the cornerstone of society, not marriages.
My partner and I aren't legally married, but we're still a family.

I agree 100% and feel the exact same way!

We aren't married either...........threesomes can't marry in any state............but we've been together 21 years and are raising honest, compassionate, free thinking children. We have a stable, loving household and a very close knit family. So what that my children have two fathers and a mother? It's just more acceptance, guidance and security to have in their lives.

 

[The Butcher]

How does redefining marriage harm society?

Answer: It doesnt.

I had a 10+ page argument in another forum with an equally intelligent, right winger, religious nut. In order to keep the argument straight, we were not allowed to quote any moral, ethical or religious material. Everything had to be fact (not faith) based.

After those 10+ pages of arguments, the only thing he could up with as to why gays could not marry was... that his health insurance may go up because HIV cases are more prevalent in gays (as cited from the CDC). I kid you not. His response was that he did not want his money going to support gays who suffer from HIV.

So, in other words, there is no harm to society.

 

[Alex]

Where are all the people on this forum who claim redefining marriage will harm society? Why are they not backing up their claims?

I intentionally posted this thread for this reason. To show that the people with this claim could not justify it.

If anyone can back it up, PLEASE do. I really want to understand it!

 

[JustineCredible]

Where are all the people on this forum who claim redefining marriage will harm society? Why are they not backing up their claims?

I intentionally posted this thread for this reason. To show that the people with this claim could not justify it.

If anyone can back it up, PLEASE do. I really want to understand it!

I think we scared them off.

ooops :3oops:

 

[jfuh]

I think we scared them off.

ooops :3oops:

Through non-debate I believe they've accepted the reality that they have no rational stance at all.

 

[Enola/Alone]

I'm suprised Jimmyjack and Doughgirl haven't commented.

 

[jfuh]

I'm suprised Jimmyjack and Doughgirl haven't commented.

Unfortunately, or fortunately I've them both on iggy lol.

 

[Enola/Alone]

Unfortunately, or fortunately I've them both on iggy lol.

I haven't put them on ignore: seeing Jimmyjack squirm amuses me.

 

[wackestmc]

I haven't put them on ignore: seeing Jimmyjack squirm amuses me.

Yeah, but it kind of makes you think; there's millions of people out in the world like that.
I gave up hope in the world a long long time ago.

 

[jimmyjack]

Jimmy jack when someone proves your point entirely wrong so you …

It's really irritating....

I haven't put them on ignore: seeing Jimmyjack squirm amuses me.

I irritate yet amuse you? Hmmm, that is strange.

 

[Enola/Alone]

I irritate yet amuse you? Hmmm, that is strange.

You per se don't amuse me, you ability to tie yourself in knots and your attempts to squirm out of responding to those who prove you wrong does.

 

[jimmyjack]

You per se don't amuse me, you ability to tie yourself in knots and your attempts to squirm out of responding to those who prove you wrong does.

Show me one example of where I have been proved wrong.

 

[Enola/Alone]

Show me one example of where I have been proved wrong.

The whole "Homosexuality is Unnatural-Fact!" Thread.

 

[jimmyjack]

The whole "Homosexuality is Unnatural-Fact!" Thread.

Wrong, that is not one example, nor can one example be found within it.

 

[wackestmc]

Wrong, that is not one example, nor can one example be found within it.

Actually, basically every post you put up meritted your entire logic and argument entirely wrong. You stated that Homosexuality is unnatural. You were proved WRONG. Even if you weren't, your argument was failed because you claimed that things unnatural are immoral, which was also proven WRONG. You refuse to answer questions, because you have no answers. YOU ARE WRONG; ADMIT IT.

 

[Enola/Alone]

Wrong, that is not one example, nor can one example be found within it.

You claimed homosexuality was un-natural, homosexuality occurs in nature, therefore, you were wrong.

 

[jimmyjack]

You claimed homosexuality was un-natural, homosexuality occurs in nature, therefore, you were wrong.

My friend’s dog can surf, that is in nature, but it doesn’t mean it is natural.

Natural means that it was in tended for, such as sex between a man and a woman.

Nature never intended men to have sex with men, therefore you are wrong.

 

[wackestmc]

Look out guys, we have the ambassador for mother nature on our hands. He knows what she's thinkin', ya know?