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How do you Prevent Racism? (1 Viewer)

How do you prevent racism?

  • Kill all those people you fear are racists

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Bow down to all projected racists by adapting their mentality

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scream out racist pigs in hopes they will come over to your side

    Votes: 2 25.0%
  • Promote segregation, where racism has no chance to flourish

    Votes: 4 50.0%

  • Total voters
    8

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The racism term gets tossed around quite a bit here with people having varying subjective views as to who and why they think someone is a racist. Rather than rely on the uselss banter that exposes the individual fears of racism--why not try to prevent racism in the first place.
 
ptsdkid said:
The racism term gets tossed around quite a bit here with people having varying subjective views as to who and why they think someone is a racist. Rather than rely on the uselss banter that exposes the individual fears of racism--why not try to prevent racism in the first place.


Sorry kid couldn't vote. All of your choices suck.
 
How do you Prevent Racism?

By not banning people like ptsdkid and Volker. Use as an example. Then get your kids, point at those like these two and luagh, if nearby poke with sticks and use the oportunity to teach your children better.


And Frgging Garza, a whole web page about you?
 
teacher,

Volker is a Nazi? I have never seen him post that.
 
How do you Prevent Racism?

I really want to help you pmskid, I do. So here's what I want you to do:

Take a bat, or any heavy object will do, hit your eyes until you cannot see. Then you will be forced to judge people based on their character and not their skin color.


:2wave:
 
I have an idea that will end racism for eternity.

Just nuke everyone. Then they will nuke us back, the world will end, and we won't have to worry about race anymore because there will be nobody alive to worry about it!

:boom

Simple plan!
 
ptsdkid said:
The racism term gets tossed around quite a bit here with people having varying subjective views as to who and why they think someone is a racist. Rather than rely on the uselss banter that exposes the individual fears of racism--why not try to prevent racism in the first place.

You can't prevent racism, except by, as Lord of Chaos said, killing everybody. If the races were segregated, you'd have people crossing the borders, which means there would be tension and probably violence between the two groups -- which means there would be racism.

I'd like you to justify segregation, since that's obviously where you're heading with this poll. Tell me, which races would get segregated? Where would the segregated races settle -- who gets what city/state/country? Would the races be allowed to travel back and forth between enclaves, or would they be absolutely quarantined? And why would this keep people from hating each other, from trying to kill each other?

Go ahead, kid. The floor is yours: prove your case.
 
you prevent racism through education, and combating ignorance.

too bad that wasnt a choice on the poll.
 
I think you will always have rascism but the best thing to try and curtail it is to treat a person of a different race as your equal........
 
CoffeeSaint said:
You can't prevent racism, except by, as Lord of Chaos said, killing everybody. If the races were segregated, you'd have people crossing the borders, which means there would be tension and probably violence between the two groups -- which means there would be racism.

***Why would segregated people want to cross borders, when they supposedly had everything they wanted inside their own little societal culture of like minded people of a similar or same race? My original point is that segregation prevents racism, e.g.; I doubt you would find any racial tension inside the neghiborhoods of Harlem between it's inclusive black population.

I'd like you to justify segregation, since that's obviously where you're heading with this poll. Tell me, which races would get segregated? Where would the segregated races settle -- who gets what city/state/country? Would the races be allowed to travel back and forth between enclaves, or would they be absolutely quarantined? And why would this keep people from hating each other, from trying to kill each other?

***Your question of which races would get segregated misses the point. Those Americans that have learned to assimilate to the American culture by obeying it's laws will be considered to be members of one big happy segregated family of Americans. Its only when you infuse these non-assimilating sub cultures into the mix do you risk the chance of racial tension. America, love it or leave it! So segregation can mean mixing various foreign nationalities into one, so long as the one becomes America in the process. Like I said before, I was once married to Jewish American; my sister-in-law is a Chinese American, and my son's hald brother is half black. So race doesn't mean squat to me; its their character of understanding what it means to be an American that matters most.

Go ahead, kid. The floor is yours: prove your case.

***Thank you for allowing me to sweep the floor clean of all undesirables.
 
ptsdkid said:
CoffeeSaint said:
You can't prevent racism, except by, as Lord of Chaos said, killing everybody. If the races were segregated, you'd have people crossing the borders, which means there would be tension and probably violence between the two groups -- which means there would be racism.

***Why would segregated people want to cross borders, when they supposedly had everything they wanted inside their own little societal culture of like minded people of a similar or same race? My original point is that segregation prevents racism, e.g.; I doubt you would find any racial tension inside the neghiborhoods of Harlem between it's inclusive black population.
Because as far as I know, you can't grow a lot of turnips inside Harlem. They would need to get food from the white farmers in Iowa. That means people would cross the borders. Plus there is travel, education, employment -- you know, all the reasons people go places. Then there is this fact: people do not all live in isolated racial enclaves now, which means that some people do not want to stay in a place because their race lives there. I personally would never live in a state made up wholly of those who are considered by people like you to be of my race. So I'd cross the border, Kid.
Your point about segregation preventing racism is wrong. People in Harlem still harbor racist feelings against white people, just like people in Coeur d'Alene (sp?) harbor racist feelings against blacks. Look at you: you're a racist. How many non-white people live in your town?

ptsdkid said:
CoffeeSaint said:
I'd like you to justify segregation, since that's obviously where you're heading with this poll. Tell me, which races would get segregated? Where would the segregated races settle -- who gets what city/state/country? Would the races be allowed to travel back and forth between enclaves, or would they be absolutely quarantined? And why would this keep people from hating each other, from trying to kill each other?

***Your question of which races would get segregated misses the point. Those Americans that have learned to assimilate to the American culture by obeying it's laws will be considered to be members of one big happy segregated family of Americans. Its only when you infuse these non-assimilating sub cultures into the mix do you risk the chance of racial tension. America, love it or leave it! So segregation can mean mixing various foreign nationalities into one, so long as the one becomes America in the process. Like I said before, I was once married to Jewish American; my sister-in-law is a Chinese American, and my son's hald brother is half black. So race doesn't mean squat to me; its their character of understanding what it means to be an American that matters most.

Here's the problem: "One big happy segregated family of Americans" is an oxymoron, especially when the criteria for entrance into this "family" is assimilation. So you're saying that everyone who wants to be American, and who follows the laws should be American; that's fine. My question was not who should get kicked out of this country, it was HOW are these people segregated? Who lives where? Okay, you wouldn't move to Harlem; but the entire US is not already segregated along racial lines. I used to live in San Diego, which is just about 45/45/10 white/Latino/black. Who gets to live in SD? Who gets to decide who stays and who goes? If it isn't along racial lines, what is the criteria for segregation? And how am I supposed to accept that it isn't about race when your same post said, "My original point is that segregation prevents racism, e.g.; I doubt you would find any racial tension inside the neghiborhoods of Harlem between it's inclusive black population." See how that refers to race?

Make up your mind: if you are talking about segregation based on race, then explain what races, who lives where, and how you are going to keep people from leaving their enclaves and thus causing racial tension. If all that matters to you is if people "assimilate" by accepting US laws, then either stop talking now, or move this to the Immigration forum -- because the American people, all races, creeds, and colors, have already done that.

ptsdkid said:
CoffeeSaint said:
Go ahead, kid. The floor is yours: prove your case.
***Thank you for allowing me to sweep the floor clean of all undesirables.

You're very welcome. Now whenever you want to put your case forward on this nice, clean floor, feel free. That is, if you can decide what you're actually arguing for.
 
How do you eliminate racism? Simple, you undercut its root causes. Reduce socio-economic disparity, introduce an appreciation for other cultures during education, and encourage heterogeneous interaction in all walks of life. People are stupid, so I don’t think racism will ever completely disappear, but improved wages and more available jobs would decrease the “us vs. them” mentality that seeds racism, and increased familiarity would definitely reduce inaccurate racist stereotypes.

But that’s just a few of the things I remember from psychology/sociology classes. It’s not like those PhD’s study this sort of thing for a living, or anything like that. All 4 of ptsd's poll options would be a much better approach than any of that.
 
Yay! Another pointless, ridiculous, absurd, dishonest, bias-oriented, agenda-driven poll by ptsdkid! Guess we couldn't go a couple of days without one.

Oh, and to answer your question: it's not on the list, but my response would be to not allow you to continue to post these innane threads.
 
ptsdkid said:
Your question of which races would get segregated misses the point. Those Americans that have learned to assimilate to the American culture by obeying it's laws will be considered to be members of one big happy segregated family of Americans. Its only when you infuse these non-assimilating sub cultures into the mix do you risk the chance of racial tension. America, love it or leave it! So segregation can mean mixing various foreign nationalities into one, so long as the one becomes America in the process. Like I said before, I was once married to Jewish American; my sister-in-law is a Chinese American, and my son's hald brother is half black. So race doesn't mean squat to me; its their character of understanding what it means to be an American that matters most.

OK, let's take you for your word. You are saying that those cultures who have assimilated into the American culture should be considered one big happy family of Americans. This can include the mixing of various foreign nationalities into one, as long as the one becomes America. Those that refuse to assimilate into the American culture can cause racial tension and should, as you say, 'leave it'. Notice, I used practically all YOUR words. I will, therefore, completely agree with you here. If a group refuses to assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities that is America, they should leave America and segregate. Any culture; black, oriental, white, any ethnicity or religion that refuses to assimilate, leaves. That means that all 'white priders' based on their desire to not assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities that is America should vacate the country at once. Thank you ptsdkid for finally taking a stand against the racism of the 'white pride' segregationalist movement and suggesting that these people 'leave' or assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities into what has become America. I will assume that you will either be 'assimilating' and renouncing both your segregational beliefs and your stormfront membership, or you will be leaving to go wherever it is that all you segregationalists will go.
 
Navy Pride said:
I think you will always have rascism but the best thing to try and curtail it is to treat a person of a different race as your equal........


Ding..Ding...Ding

You know...try to be a good person, I think this is written in a couple books somewhere
 
Befuddled_Stoner said:
How do you eliminate racism? Simple, you undercut its root causes. Reduce socio-economic disparity, introduce an appreciation for other cultures during education, and encourage heterogeneous interaction in all walks of life. People are stupid, so I don’t think racism will ever completely disappear, but improved wages and more available jobs would decrease the “us vs. them” mentality that seeds racism, and increased familiarity would definitely reduce inaccurate racist stereotypes.

***What you have described here are the basic tenets of socialism. Reduce socio-economic disparity? Actually, by taking the actions you described above will help plant the seed for a totalitarian government. By enacting those social and government funded programs to help out the poor or the so-called disadvantaged...you in turn create class conflict by expecting the movers and shakers, the entrepreneurs, the Capitalists, the Business owners, etc. to pay higher taxes, or to pay higher wages to their employees, or to cave in to the cost of socially experimenting with these weaker slaggards in our society. How could a business or corporation look forward, set goals, expand business, engage in foreign trade, if they were to be penalized, or have needless restrictions placed on their businesses-- while succumbing to over taxation to help out those that are either unwilling or too lazy to step up to the plate to be accounted for?

***And if America was to experiment with any form of this socialization (as the Dems had done for 40 years from the New Deal to the Great Society)--then what you get is a bloated government intent on spending billions of $$ on entitlement programs, i.e. Social Security and Medicare etc., while racism flourishes as the haves and have-nots clash at every street corner. Perhaps now, you'll either consider signing up for the Republican Party (the party that despises socialism, while trumpeting Capitalism), or segregating yourself and your family into some segregated enclave--free from racial tension.

But that’s just a few of the things I remember from psychology/sociology classes. It’s not like those PhD’s study this sort of thing for a living, or anything like that. All 4 of ptsd's poll options would be a much better approach than any of that.

***Thanks for recognizing common sense.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
If a group refuses to assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities that is America, they should leave America and segregate. Any culture; black, oriental, white, any ethnicity or religion that refuses to assimilate, leaves. That means that all 'white priders' based on their desire to not assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities that is America should vacate the country at once.

***Very cute, and you would have gotten away with that slickness, had you not been discoursing with me...the KID. White Priders are the people, (the original) assimilaters to our American culture. Its those other ethnics, religions, and wannabes that need to assimilate into the American culture. White priders' have gone out of our way to show these people just how easy it is to be a real true American. White Priders are the template--now its up to the rest to segregate into the mold.



Thank you ptsdkid for finally taking a stand against the racism of the 'white pride' segregationalist movement and suggesting that these people 'leave' or assimilate into the mixing of various foreign nationalities into what has become America. I will assume that you will either be 'assimilating' and renouncing both your segregational beliefs and your stormfront membership, or you will be leaving to go wherever it is that all you segregationalists will go.

**So long as you continue to keep skewing the issue by calling us truely cultured White Pride Americans...racists, then you'll forever be known as perhaps one of a few remaining racists upon this board. You really are letting me down as of late.
 
ptsdkid said:
Very cute,

Thank you. I, too, thought it was quite good. :mrgreen:
and you would have gotten away with that slickness, had you not been discoursing with me...the KID.

Ok, Kid, let's see what you've got. And remember you're discoursing with me, the CAPTAIN.
White Priders are the people, (the original) assimilaters to our American culture. Its those other ethnics, religions, and wannabes that need to assimilate into the American culture.


Thats it? :rofl

Incorrect. The original 'Americans' were made up of the following ethnicities: English, Irish, French, Dutch, Portuguese, German, Sweedish, Scottish, and small numbers of others. Africans, though in servitude at the time also made up a large number of original 'Americans'. Religion was just as diverse with Protestants, Quakers, Catholics, Jews, Anglican, and others. 'White Priders' are not noted as 'original Americans'. It is all the ethnicities and religions mentioned that combined to begin to become the American culture that is with us today. Other cultures (Chinesse and Orientals for example) have come later and have assimilated continuing the tradition of other foreign nationalites mixing to create American culture. Paraphrasing your words, assimilation of the melded and mixed American culture is what those who want to be part of it do. Those who don't want to assimilate (again, paraphrasing you) can cause racial tension and if they don't want to be part of the mixed American culture or, want to segregate rather then assimilate themselves in America, should leave.

Now, when is that bus departing?
White priders' have gone out of our way to show these people just how easy it is to be a real true American. White Priders are the template--now its up to the rest to segregate into the mold.
Nope. All the ethnicities I mentioned melded to create American culture. And, again, I agree with you. Any group that refuses to assimilate or segregate into the mixed, various foreign nationalities into the one that makes up America (your words in italics) should leave. Love the mixed, various foreign nationalities that make up America or leave.

Perhaps a train schedule would be better.

So long as you continue to keep skewing the issue by calling us truely cultured White Pride Americans...racists, then you'll forever be known as perhaps one of a few remaining racists upon this board. You really are letting me down as of late.

I am using your own words in the context that you used them. You can't escape from your own words, Kid. They show how 'white priders' are one of the many problems sub-cultures in America. And you know, if you were truely an American, you would stop with the 'white pride' BS and do as I do: you would claim to have 'American Pride'. That's what a 'real American' would do. I do not claim my ethnicity to be 'anything-American'. My ancestors may have come from other places, but I am an AMERICAN and damn proud of it. And you have no evidence that I am a racist because I'm not. Post something I said that shows that I am; go ahead, I dare you. If you can't, I expect a retraction. I have come out against liberals, conservatives, Palestinian terrorists, Israeli terrorists, white racists, black racists, anywhere that extremists lurk. Perhaps your disappointment in me, as of late, is related to the fact that I'm not only showing your debating techniques to be flawed, but your premises and positions as well. I guess it was far easier to deal with the former alone.
 
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CaptainCourtesy said:
Thank you. I, too, thought it was quite good. :mrgreen:

***Cute perhaps, but anything but good.

Ok, Kid, let's see what you've got. And remember you're discoursing with me, the CAPTAIN.

***Thanks for reminding me. I still get you mixed up with that Captain American fella. Oh well, when you're wrong...you're wrong, regardless of the handle.

Incorrect. The original 'Americans' were made up of the following ethnicities: English, Irish, French, Dutch, Portuguese, German, Sweedish, Scottish, and small numbers of others. Africans, though in servitude at the time also made up a large number of original 'Americans'. Religion was just as diverse with Protestants, Quakers, Catholics, Jews, Anglican, and others. 'White Priders' are not noted as 'original Americans'. It is all the ethnicities and religions mentioned that combined to begin to become the American culture that is with us today.

***You're still having trouble understanding the color of the skin of the English, Irish, French, Dutch, Portuguese, German, Swedish, and Scottish. While I cannot vouch for our founding fathers' having 'white pride'--my guess is that they did have an enormous amount of white pride (since that was the color of their skins). Your intent here is to try to project my views as those pitting one race or one religion against another, in lieu of creating the perfect segregationist white pride race. That simply is not the case. I spread my arms open for all races and religions to join the American culture. My arms tend to close up when Islamic jihadists, Mexican illegals, anti American liberals, anti American anyone, illegal anyone, black power sc um, and any other American non conformists try to interject their criminal intent onto the American culture.


Other cultures (Chinesse and Orientals for example) have come later and have assimilated continuing the tradition of other foreign nationalites mixing to create American culture. Paraphrasing your words, assimilation of the melded and mixed American culture is what those who want to be part of it do. Those who don't want to assimilate (again, paraphrasing you) can cause racial tension and if they don't want to be part of the mixed American culture or, want to segregate rather then assimilate themselves in America, should leave.
Now, when is that bus departing?

***Good question. Have you got your ticket?

Nope. All the ethnicities I mentioned melded to create American culture. And, again, I agree with you. Any group that refuses to assimilate or segregate into the mixed, various foreign nationalities into the one that makes up America (your words in italics) should leave. Love the mixed, various foreign nationalities that make up America or leave.

***Perhaps you're catching on to my message here.

Perhaps a train schedule would be better.

***I prefer we lease a gigantic boat to ship them back to the third world nations they left in the first place. A train schedule would just shuffle (desegregate) them back into the American mixture of racial tension. Where is the progress in the American culture by exercising that option?


I am using your own words in the context that you used them. You can't escape from your own words, Kid. They show how 'white priders' are one of the many problems sub-cultures in America.

***Please show me where WHITE PRIDERS are one of the many problem sub-cultures in America? White Priders are the very essence of our Founding Fathers' tradition. Need I teach you this history fact again and again?


And you know, if you were truely an American, you would stop with the 'white pride' BS and do as I do: you would claim to have 'American Pride'.

***My WHITE pride and American pride are mutually inclusive entities. I exude them both at will.


That's what a 'real American' would do. I do not claim my ethnicity to be 'anything-American'. My ancestors may have come from other places, but I am an AMERICAN and damn proud of it.

***I also claim an ethnicity to be totally American. Not once here have I gone into my European roots of Irish and English.


And you have no evidence that I am a racist because I'm not. Post something I said that shows that I am; go ahead, I dare you. If you can't, I expect a retraction. I have come out against liberals, conservatives, Palestinian terrorists, Israeli terrorists, white racists, black racists, anywhere that extremists lurk. Perhaps your disappointment in me, as of late, is related to the fact that I'm not only showing your debating techniques to be flawed, but your premises and positions as well. I guess it was far easier to deal with the former alone.

***Nothing to retract here. I said that perhaps you're a racist. Pride in one's race and having a penchant to segregate people into the American culture does not make for a racist, or for racism. Those unwilling to culturalize into the American society may very well be the racists that you seem to be looking for. Rather than knock someone for having white pride, try joining the bandwagon of those praising America and it's White historical roots.
 
ptsdkid said:
The racism term gets tossed around quite a bit here with people having varying subjective views as to who and why they think someone is a racist. Rather than rely on the uselss banter that exposes the individual fears of racism--why not try to prevent racism in the first place.
You cannot litigate or legislate love and understanding... If you feel you are a victim of racism then learn why the person dislikes you and make a determination if change is worth what you must give up for their love and understanding.
 
Topsez said:
You cannot litigate or legislate love and understanding... If you feel you are a victim of racism then learn why the person dislikes you and make a determination if change is worth what you must give up for their love and understanding.

***You can not litigate or legislate love and understanding, but methinks that culturated Americans already know why these people dislike America and Americans. If the mission is to become Americans by obeying it's rules, (and perhaps honoring America)--then the onus to matriculate to these American standards lies completely with the multiculturalist. Again, my arms are always spread wide to welcome these people of various cultures, religions, and ethnicities--so long as their final objective is to become Americanized.
 
ptsdkid said:
***You can not litigate or legislate love and understanding, but methinks that culturated Americans already know why these people dislike America and Americans. If the mission is to become Americans by obeying it's rules, (and perhaps honoring America)--then the onus to matriculate to these American standards lies completely with the multiculturalist. Again, my arms are always spread wide to welcome these people of various cultures, religions, and ethnicities--so long as their final objective is to become Americanized.

Define "Americanized." One does not become American simply by obeying the rules -- and I doubt you yourself believe that. What if someone doesn't speak English, for instance? Could they be considered Americanized if they didn't break any laws?
While we're on the subject of rules, one of the rules that exists in America states that segregation is illegal; "separate but equal" was thrown out by the Supreme Court in Brown v. Board of Education. So by arguing for segregation, you yourself are breaking the rules, and violating the spirit, of America. Maybe you haven't quite finished becoming American yet.
 
Racism can be overcome with education; prejudice will always exist.

We can prejudge for anything, including skin color, without being racist.
 
Gordon Shumway said:
Racism can be overcome with education; prejudice will always exist.

We can prejudge for anything, including skin color, without being racist.
Racism can be overcome by acknowledging "I and You did not get to pick our parents". I'm married to a Puerto Rican woman, she is white like me. My older son is white like me and his mom... My other son is moca and always bothers his brother for being uncool white... go figure here it isn't cool to be too white...

Prejudice is learned as the appriciation for beauty and ugly is learned. Again, admit "I and you didn't get to choose our parents and let the person prove, like all persons they deserve your respect.

I think all persons should conform to the culture they live in... I live in PR and I'm not shocked by culture differences, for example all strait Puerto Rican guys here will make sexual comments about your butt if you bend over like a man to pick something up... In Germany it is common for a woman to change her clothes on the beach from jeans and shirt to nude to dressing in a swimsuit... I just had to adjust (and usually roll over so the tent didn't block my view)... In Korea its common to leave dead people lying on the side of the road for a few days to see if someone else will pay for the burrial... a trait that probably wouldn't be too cool in America.
 

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