How do we come together

[Kreton]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

 

[SDET]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

I dunno, have everyone go to strip bars at the same time? Ask John Lennon's ghost?

 

[Kreton]

I dunno, have everyone go to strip bars at the same time?

Mid morning weekday strippers near a trailer park? Nothing brings people together like getting out of there.

 

[Verax]

We don't need to come together. The right pulls us into darkness and then wants to call it good, sorry no. It's like a battered spouse having their life ruined and then getting back together because they say we both made mistakes and it will be better now. Anyone dumb enough to take the bait deserves what happens again. Neo Nazi Arthur Jones received 25 percent of the vote in Illinois. The myth these kinds of people are rare is just that.

 

[Mycroft]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

None of the above.

My answer is two-part:

1. The media...especially the so-called news organization...need to end their constant attacks on the President. They need to get back to the journalistic professionalism they once had.

2. The Democrats need to end their constant attacks on the President.

If those two things would happen, the President would be happy to sit down, work together with everyone in Congress and negotiate mutually beneficial courses of action. The useful idiots who listen to the media and the Democrats would fall in line.

 

[Logicman]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

Repentance and Divine intervention, i.e.

"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land." - 2 Chronicles 7:14

And by the way, unless Michelle Obama forgives Trump's alleged "sin," then according to Matthew 6:15 ("But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins"), she may well be Hell-bound when she dies.

Michelle Obama - "I'd never forgive Trump"

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kn...id-never-forgive-trump-for-birther-conspiracy

 

[humbolt]

Free beer for everybody. And why in the hell hasn't Bernie suggested this, anyway?

 

[SDET]

Now I will give your question a serious answer: Few things bring people together more than not being able to safely walk down the street. Such a condition flipped millions of Brazilians from being Socialists to militant right wingers.

 

[Felis Leo]

We don't need to come together. The right pulls us into darkness and then wants to call it good, sorry no. It's like a battered spouse having their life ruined and then getting back together because they say we both made mistakes and it will be better now. Anyone dumb enough to take the bait deserves what happens again. Neo Nazi Arthur Jones received 25 percent of the vote in Illinois. The myth these kinds of people are rare is just that.

Well, Verax, no one is asking you to break bread with actual self-admitted Nazis. That having been said, I do not think it is moral, appropriate or even strategically sound to treat everyone who disagrees with you vehemently regarding political or ideological differences as a Nazi who wants to frog-march you to the gas chambers. People need to re-learn how to handle their disagreements with respect and the barest modicum of generosity to their opponents. Not everyone on the Left wants America to be destroyed and the constitutional rights and freedoms of individual citizens to be erased in favor of "collective rights." Not everyone on the right wants to engage in a campaign of ethnic cleansing of non-white people. If we can start all of our conversations with that as a the first presumption, I think things will get better and continue to be better in this country. Just a thought, anyway.

 

[Rexedgar]

Free beer for everybody. And why in the hell hasn't Bernie suggested this, anyway?

Patience:

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[Rexedgar]

None of the above.

My answer is two-part:

1. The media...especially the so-called news organization...need to end their constant attacks on the President. They need to get back to the journalistic professionalism they once had.

2. The Democrats need to end their constant attacks on the President.

If those two things would happen, the President would be happy to sit down, work together with everyone in Congress and negotiate mutually beneficial courses of action. The useful idiots who listen to the media and the Democrats would fall in line.

.......and everybody lived happily ever after!

 

[Praxas]

None of the above.

My answer is two-part:

1. The media...especially the so-called news organization...need to end their constant attacks on the President. They need to get back to the journalistic professionalism they once had.

2. The Democrats need to end their constant attacks on the President.

If those two things would happen, the President would be happy to sit down, work together with everyone in Congress and negotiate mutually beneficial courses of action. The useful idiots who listen to the media and the Democrats would fall in line.

And of course, you act like President Trump does nothing wrong. You are the perfect example of what's wrong with America and why there is division. you only hold ONE side at fault. Trump lied long before the day he took office and then on day 1 because his ego had to be stroked about the inauguration size.

 

[Mithros]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

The President and Conservative media both benefit from inflaming their supporters and censoring what they hear. It's not an accident that Conservatives have retreated to rural areas where they don't come in contact with people that don't look or think like them. If you want people to come together, they need to actually come together.

If you live in a city you know Trump supporters. You hear Conservatives, Liberals, Libertarians, Pastafarians, etc...Even when you don't agree on certain issues you understand that you agree far more than you disagree. If you live in the country your "unbiased" local news is right wing propaganda brought to you by Sinclair media. You listen to Rush, Hannity, and the rest of his ilk spew hatred against strawmen liberals. You won't hear an alternate point of view.. and there's no way to move forward until that happens.

 

[Kreton]

None of the above.

My answer is two-part:

1. The media...especially the so-called news organization...need to end their constant attacks on the President. They need to get back to the journalistic professionalism they once had.

2. The Democrats need to end their constant attacks on the President.

If those two things would happen, the President would be happy to sit down, work together with everyone in Congress and negotiate mutually beneficial courses of action. The useful idiots who listen to the media and the Democrats would fall in line.

So in your opinion the right are free to attack people they disagree with but if they are attacked it is unfair and wrong? Have you ever asked yourself why you believe only some people should be allowed to attack and why some people should be immune to critique no matter what they do?

 

[Blue Dog]

Just my opinion here, but we need a Gang Of Eight from our two political parties to come together and denouce the vitriol that has become American political discourse. Tribalism needs to be called out for its denigrating effects on our culture. President Trump either has to change his rhetoric or this GOE has to hold him accountable together as a group. The extremists cannot be allowed to dictate our political differences any longer.

 

[Kreton]

The President and Conservative media both benefit from inflaming their supporters and censoring what they hear. It's not an accident that Conservatives have retreated to rural areas where they don't come in contact with people that don't look or think like them. If you want people to come together, they need to actually come together.

If you live in a city you know Trump supporters. You hear Conservatives, Liberals, Libertarians, Pastafarians, etc...Even when you don't agree on certain issues you understand that you agree far more than you disagree. If you live in the country your "unbiased" local news is right wing propaganda brought to you by Sinclair media. You listen to Rush, Hannity, and the rest of his ilk spew hatred against strawmen liberals. You won't hear an alternate point of view.. and there's no way to move forward until that happens.

You are looking at one side of it but what about the other side? Do you really think that the liberals in this country are sitting down and really listening to alternate points of view?

 

[Kreton]

Just my opinion here, but we need a Gang Of Eight from our two political parties come together and denouce the vitriol that has become American political discourse. Tribalism needs to be called out for its denigrating effects on our culture. President Trump either has to change his rhetoric or this GOE has to hold him accountable together as a group. The extremists cannot be allowed to dictate our political differences any longer.

Do you see an end in sight?

 

[HumblePi]

I think it would take people to be forced to walk in someone else's shoes for one day for each side to have some understanding of the other. That's not happening of course so it will take something very catastrophic, something that actually brings people to their knees to be able to say 'okay, let's join hands and work this out together.'

 

[Mithros]

Repentance and Divine intervention, i.e.

"If my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and I will forgive their sin and will heal their land." - 2 Chronicles 7:14

And by the way, unless Michelle Obama forgives Trump's alleged "sin," then according to Matthew 6:15 ("But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins"), she may well be Hell-bound when she dies.

Michelle Obama - "I'd never forgive Trump"

https://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-kn...id-never-forgive-trump-for-birther-conspiracy

Matthew 7
Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and [a]by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. 3 Why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

Donald Trump: "I haven't asked God for forgiveness "
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKLVIm7Q0IQ
https://www.cnn.com/2015/07/18/politics/trump-has-never-sought-forgiveness/index.html
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-on-god-i-dont-like-to-have-to-ask-for-forgiveness-2016-1

 

[AlphaOmega]

We arent ever going to come together. Conservatives want to Make America Great again, leftists want to make America Great Britain again.

 

[Rogue Valley]

I did consider a Trump resignation, but that still leaves us with the hellish problem of Pence and an Evangelical theocracy.

Other than perhaps a viable third party that appeals to a solid majority, we might well be beyond the point of national reconciliation.

 

[Blue Dog]

Do you see an end in sight?

Not sure, to be honest with you. We seem to be living out the movie Impulse from 1984.

 

[TDGonDP]

We are a divided nation right now. What needs to happen in order for the US to come together?

It is interesting to see that "Creating an Alternative System of Governance" was not one of the choices.

 

[straykatz]

Our country will not unite until the we the people decide to unite - and from what we are seeing and hearing that ain't happening soon! A castrophic event is only a temporary coming together and even that kind of coming together happens less and less as we become more and more immune to the endless violence in our country. In addition to violence we have become polarized by political division which is fanning the flames by putting the party before the peoples best interests. Our politicians do not work for us yet we flock to polling stations election after election to elect to vote for them - we really are a pretty stupid lot when you think of it like that! Without us the voters they would not have a job that pays them 6 figures for part time work with lifetime pensions and healthcare. Where the heck is their graditude!!

 

[What if...?]

Should have had an "other" option.

How do we come together?

Regulate the manipulation industries and license practitioners.

Because that is where the divide came from.

It is a product bought and paid for.

Contracts, receipts, pay stubs.

Billions have been spent figuring out what makes us tick.

More billions have been made using what was learned to manipulate us for their customers.

Until we acknowledge and address this we are screwed.

Our politicians won't do it, they depend on these tools to win elections.

The media won't do it because their customers use these tools to craft ads.

And doing so would require a constitutional amendment. As it is speech itself, language, cognition that is being exploited.

I am quite sure however that the founders would not have worded the 1st amendment the way they did had they foreseen the technology used by every modern tyranny to establish and maintain those tyrannies.

It is NOT your grandpa's propaganda anymore.

The media will not do it