How close are we to a theocracy.

[weaver2]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

 

[Dragonfly]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

I'm not gonna freak out until I see something that's needs freaking out about.

I'll give her a chance to not undo what's been done.

We shall see.

 

[nota bene]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

Why would you assume that judicial decisions would be rendered based not on the Justices's interpretation of the law but, rather, on their religious beliefs?

 

[Daisy]

Closer than you think and it will be brought about by no worldly government...

 

[Dragonfly]

 

[Mycroft]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

If you are worried about a "theocracy", then the Supremes aren't the ones you need to worry about. They don't write laws. They determine the constitutionality of the laws. You should be concerned about Congress.

 

[rickc]

What we have is a plutocracy or oligarchy. Our government is owned by the rich. Rulings like Citizens United have given unlimited power to the wealthy to buy our government.

A theocracy we will never have. Sure those righties on the Supreme Court for now might make you think so. But their power will be short lived.

 

[weaver2]

Why would you assume that judicial decisions would be rendered based not on the Justices's interpretation of the law but, rather, on their religious beliefs?

Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch have already shown their willingness to vote for dropping restrictions against religious involvement in politics. Why do you think the religious right was so eager to have Ms Barrett on the Court?

 

[swing_voter]

1 being zero theocracy

10 being 100% theocracy

I thing we've been at a 2 since 1880

 

[iguanaman]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

The SC better not send us back to the middle ages if they know what is good for them. The court of 9 is a dinosaur already and all we need is a reason to add more Justices that better represent the views of the population. We will not suffer the tyranny of the courts any more than we will any other branch.

 

[iguanaman]

Thomas, Alito, Kavanaugh and Gorsuch have already shown their willingness to vote for dropping restrictions against religious involvement in politics. Why do you think the religious right was so eager to have Ms Barrett on the Court?

That will be a non-starter and will bring about changes in the court that they will not like. Religion is not allowed to take part in our Govt. They will lose their tax exempt status at the very least.

 

[countryboy]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

The Supreme Court doesn't pass laws. Perhaps a remedial course in third grade civics is in order.

 

[ttwtt78640]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

What leads you to believe that the SCOTUS could now change (or create) laws?

 

[iguanaman]

What leads you to believe that the SCOTUS could now change (or create) laws?

I agree the SC has no right to overturn any laws passed by Congress unless they are specifically forbidden by our Constitution.

 

[ASHES]

A lot farther away then we were when Bush 43 was president. The evangelicals and those types made up a lot more prominent part of his base than they do Trump's. If Pence became president though, for whatever reason, then it might be a conversation worth having.

 

[ttwtt78640]

I agree the SC has no right to overturn any laws passed by Congress unless they are specifically forbidden by our Constitution.

The SCOTUS also decides what state/local laws may be kept. Of course, the SCOTUS also reserves the right (privilege?) to simply refuse to rule on a matter (attempted to be?) placed before it.

That also ignores the fact that the constitution granted specific (listed or enumerated) powers to the federal government - the SCOTUS appears to have allowed significant additions to them not specifically mentioned.

 

[iguanaman]

If you are worried about a "theocracy", then the Supremes aren't the ones you need to worry about. They don't write laws. They determine the constitutionality of the laws. You should be concerned about Congress.

That really is not very reassuring. There are plenty of people that would write laws that allow religion into our Govt. and it would be up the the Supreme Court alone to decide whether they are allowed. Thankfully our founders gave us plenty of ways to deal with a court that has lost its way through partisan appointments. Congress has amazing powers if they find the need.

 

[countryboy]

A lot farther away then we were when Bush 43 was president. The evangelicals and those types made up a lot more prominent part of his base than they do Trump's. If Pence became president though, for whatever reason, then it might be a conversation worth having.

A tiny fraction of Christians would favor a theocracy. Christianity doesn't even promote theocracy.

 

[countryboy]

That really is not very reassuring. There are plenty of people that would write laws that allow religion into our Govt. and it would be up the the Supreme Court alone to decide whether they are allowed. Thankfully our founders gave us plenty of ways to deal with a court that has lost its way.

Libs are constantly promoting their own "religious" ideals into law. That isn't what the word "theocracy" means. Why are libs incapable of honesty?

 

[iguanaman]

Libs are constantly promoting their own "religious" ideals into law. That isn't what the word "theocracy" means. Why are libs incapable of honesty?

What you partisans often fail to realize is that when the founders gave us freedom OF religion they also gave us freedom FROM religion at the same time. The operative word is "freedom" and we will not let religion impose on it. Believe what you want but when you impose on others we draw the line.

 

[countryboy]

What you partisans often fail to realize is that when the founders gave us freedom OF religion they also gave us freedom FROM religion at the same time.

No, there is no freedom from religion, other than in the sense that you are not required to participate, and there can be no national establishment of religion. There is no way to have both freedom of religion, and freedom from religion.

 

[iguanaman]

No, there is no freedom from religion, other than in the sense that you are not required to participate, and there can be no national establishment of religion. There is no way to have both freedom of religion, and freedom from religion.

There is where our Constitution and our founders disagree. Religion has no place in our laws or policies. "In God we Trust" means we will leave him to sort it out after we are dead.

 

[ttwtt78640]

If you are worried about a "theocracy", then the Supremes aren't the ones you need to worry about. They don't write laws. They determine the constitutionality of the laws. You should be concerned about Congress.

Yep, they might even make Christmas (Christ’s mass?) a federal holiday (holy day?).

 

[Lutherf]

Now that the Supreme Court has a solid majority of conservative Christians what laws in addition to abortion and same sex marriage will change? Public funding of religious schools? Public display of religious symbols on government owned buildings? Reinstatement of sodomy laws? Required prayer in public schools? Teaching of Creationism? Marriage laws? Divorce laws? Tax policy? Repeal of constraints on corporations? Repeal of workers safety laws? Repeal of employee fairness and anti discrimination laws?

While my response won't be related to beliefs and skepticism I don't see how your OP falls into that category either.

Basically, you seem to be under the impression that the courts are the ones that create laws. You aren't the only one that seems to believe that as a lot of Democratic senators also seem to believe the same thing but it is the Legislature that writes laws. The Judicial branch merely advises with regard to the Constitutionality of the laws that the Legislature writes. In short, unless the Legislature passes a law that requires prayer in schools or some such thing then the Judicial branch will not have any reason to take up the subject.

 

[countryboy]

There is where our Constitution and our founders disagree. Religion has no place in our laws or policies. "In God we Trust" means we will leave him to sort it out after we are dead.

Show me where the Constitution says that. Quote verbatim.