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How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?[W:380; W:686]

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First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances. And there's even odder idea that this absolute morality is abstract so that it exists irrespective of any other considerations.

But Christianity has a particular problem with absolute morality in that most Christian sects outright reject a large number of moral commands made in the Old Testament. How does that work?
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

pinqy said:
First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances. And there's even odder idea that this absolute morality is abstract so that it exists irrespective of any other considerations.

But Christianity has a particular problem with absolute morality in that most Christian sects outright reject a large number of moral commands made in the Old Testament. How does that work?
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Because the New Testament is the Second Edition.
 
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pinqy said:
First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances.
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Absolute morality does not negate circumstances affecting it. It simply means that given all the circumstances a moral right vs wrong can be determined objectively.
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

MaggieD said:
Because the New Testament is the Second Edition.
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Right, because a perfect, all knowing, and all powerful god got things wrong in the first one.
 
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MrWonka said:
Right, because a perfect, all knowing, and all powerful god got things wrong in the first one.
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Surprise!! God didn't write the Bible.
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

pinqy said:
First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances. And there's even odder idea that this absolute morality is abstract so that it exists irrespective of any other considerations.

But Christianity has a particular problem with absolute morality in that most Christian sects outright reject a large number of moral commands made in the Old Testament. How does that work?
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So you have pretty much no Biblical education whatsoever and are trying to act like you do?? Your post is like listening to a 2nd grader trying to explain nuclear physics.
 
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because Christians state that "God is perfect" but then the second edition (New Testament) came along after the first edition (Old Testament) which had some 'errors' ............ and so does the New Testament ............... so much for perfection ...........
 
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MaggieD said:
Surprise!! God didn't write the Bible.
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This is what happens when you use ghost writers.
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

faithful_servant said:
..and another Biblically uneducated person tries to act like they know something...
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FS, you're a commie fascist libertarian democrat conservative anarchist, and I don't like the cut of your jib!!

(Sorry, just trying to bait you to respond, as your post count is 9999, and it's driving my OCD crazy, you're none, or only some, of those things)
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

pinqy said:
First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances. And there's even odder idea that this absolute morality is abstract so that it exists irrespective of any other considerations.

But Christianity has a particular problem with absolute morality in that most Christian sects outright reject a large number of moral commands made in the Old Testament. How does that work?
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What do you mean? Do you understand how the Bible works?
 
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faithful_servant said:
..and another Biblically uneducated person tries to act like they know something...
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It's like Star Wars. The new book is the prequel not the sequel. LOL...
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

Tanngrisnir said:
Why are you pretending that you know anything about the bible?
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I fund it funny how some people think that only so-called biblical scholars can comment on the bible.
 
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I think many religions act like they have a monopoly on the "correct" moral code. Not sure if that is the same as an absolute moral code.
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

devildavid said:
How does the bible work? Don't you just read it like any other book?
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Yes, you do. And it has meaning, and context, just like any other book. ;)
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

countryboy said:
Yes, you do. And it has meaning, and context, just like any other book. ;)
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So it's really just another book. We all know how books work.
 
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OlNate said:
FS, you're a commie fascist libertarian democrat conservative anarchist, and I don't like the cut of your jib!!

(Sorry, just trying to bait you to respond, as your post count is 9999, and it's driving my OCD crazy, you're none, or only some, of those things)
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Is that better?

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devildavid said:
I fund it funny how some people think that only so-called biblical scholars can comment on the bible.
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I find it sad when people act like they know the Bible, when they have no clue about it. Would you accept advice from a 1st grader on rebuilding the engine of your Ferrari or would you got to an expert??
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

devildavid said:
How does the bible work? Don't you just read it like any other book?
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Study the Bible in it's original languages, using the cultural references of the times when it was written. Without those two pieces, just reading it will lead you to poor conclusions.
 
Re: How can Christians assert Absolute Morality?

pinqy said:
First off, I don't get the concept of Absolute morality: that something is always wrong regardless of circumstances. And there's even odder idea that this absolute morality is abstract so that it exists irrespective of any other considerations.

But Christianity has a particular problem with absolute morality in that most Christian sects outright reject a large number of moral commands made in the Old Testament. How does that work?
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Because the Hebrew/OT was written directly to and for God's holy nation, the Israelites...God made a covenant with them alone through Moses...they were given laws to uphold, including animal sacrifices to atone for their sins...the Greek/NT is written to and for Christians...when Jesus came to the earth, he made a new covenant of love with his disciples, which also included gentiles...because of him and his perfect sacrifice, no one...Jew or gentile...is under that old law covenant if they are a follower of Jesus Christ...

Atonement.
In the Hebrew Scriptures, the concept was connected with sacrifices that were made to allow people to approach God and worship him. Under the Mosaic Law, sacrifices were made, particularly on the annual Day of Atonement, in order to effect reconciliation with God despite the sins of individuals and of the whole nation. Those sacrifices pointed to Jesus’ sacrifice, which completely atoned for mankind’s sins once for all time, giving people the opportunity to be reconciled to Jehovah.—Le 5:10; 23:28; Col 1:20; Heb 9:12.
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https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1001061175?q=mosaic+law&p=par
 
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