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How Americans responded to the first presidential debate of 2020

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83% of debate viewers thought the debate was very negative

48% said Joe won

41% said Trump won

69% said the debate made them annoyed

10% said they were entertained

No movement in voter's opinion of the candidates.

Since it's a wash, and Joe's ahead, Joe won.
 
swing_voter said:



83% of debate viewers thought the debate was very negative

48% said Joe won

41% said Trump won

69% said the debate made them annoyed

10% said they were entertained

No movement in voter's opinion of the candidates.

Since it's a wash, and Joe's ahead, Joe won.
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CBS and YouGov.

That video doesn't give any sampling numbers...they just claim a nationwide sample. But going by previous YouGov polls, it's safe to say that is a bogus poll.
 
Mycroft said:
CBS and YouGov.

That video doesn't give any sampling numbers...they just claim a nationwide sample. But going by previous YouGov polls, it's safe to say that is a bogus poll.
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You said the same thing about the CNN poll. Dismissing every poll which says Biden won as bogus seems foolish.

I see Fox news didn't conduct a 'who won' poll. Perhaps they knew what the result would be.
 
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Aristaeus said:
You said the same thing about the CNN poll. Dismissing every poll which says Biden won as bogus seems foolish.
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Every time I've rejected a poll, I've supported my judgment with facts from the pollsters, themselves.

In this case, since the pollsters didn't give the necessary facts, I can only go by their past performance. As I said...it's safe to say that this is a bogus poll.
 
I'll be interested to see how those views change over the next few days. If you watched FOX News, you'd have a very different opinion about what happened. They were pleased as punch. It really is an alternate universe over there.
 
swing_voter said:



83% of debate viewers thought the debate was very negative

48% said Joe won

41% said Trump won

69% said the debate made them annoyed

10% said they were entertained

No movement in voter's opinion of the candidates.

Since it's a wash, and Joe's ahead, Joe won.
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Actually, the winner of the debate will not be announced until all of the votes are counted. That puts it at about mid December, 2025.
 
NWRatCon said:
I'll be interested to see how those views change over the next few days. If you watched FOX News, you'd have a very different opinion about what happened. They were pleased as punch. It really is an alternate universe over there.
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Wait a minute! Are you saying that FOX news and CNN had views that were different?

WOW! Now THAT is a headline!
 
swing_voter said:
83% of debate viewers thought the debate was very negative

48% said Joe won

41% said Trump won

69% said the debate made them annoyed

10% said they were entertained

No movement in voter's opinion of the candidates.

Since it's a wash, and Joe's ahead, Joe won.
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Yep, a wash. These numbers closely match what people already planned to do nationally, so as I had thought, the debate would not move any needles.
 
no more debates with out a moderator controlled mic shutoff.
 
swing_voter said:



83% of debate viewers thought the debate was very negative

48% said Joe won

41% said Trump won

69% said the debate made them annoyed

10% said they were entertained

No movement in voter's opinion of the candidates.

Since it's a wash, and Joe's ahead, Joe won.
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But the status quo is that Biden was slipping in most of the swing states, a downward trend. That means we're still on that course.
 
Mycroft said:
Every time I've rejected a poll, I've supported my judgment with facts from the pollsters, themselves.

In this case, since the pollsters didn't give the necessary facts, I can only go by their past performance. As I said...it's safe to say that this is a bogus poll.
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That’s not what you just did. You made a blanket statement, unsupported by any evidence.
 
I don't think I ever want to meet the 17% of respondents who thought the debate was "positive."
 
TomFitz said:
That’s not what you just did. You made a blanket statement, unsupported by any evidence.
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The poster rejects Fox News polls as well.

Lets face it: Many Trump voters are in denial that he's in really bad shape. His debate performance only put him in a deeper hole. A recent poll out of South Carolina had Trump up by 1 point! The fact that South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Missouri and Montana are within Biden's streaking distance is really telling.
 
TomFitz said:
That’s not what you just did. You made a blanket statement, unsupported by any evidence.
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All you have to do is look at all the polls I've rejected. Every one of them has been supported by evidence...especially the YouGov polls.
 
BrotherFease said:
The poster rejects Fox News polls as well.
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That's right. I do...and I tell you why. I show you the numbers.

Any pollster who samples Dems at almost 50% of the people they sample, as Fox News polls do, is bogus and should be rejected by anyone who wants polls to be accurate.

Lets face it: Many Trump voters are in denial that he's in really bad shape. His debate performance only put him in a deeper hole. A recent poll out of South Carolina had Trump up by 1 point! The fact that South Carolina, Texas, Georgia, Missouri and Montana are within Biden's streaking distance is really telling.
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I don't evaluate state polls because I don't have reliable party affiliation numbers for all of the states. However, given the practices of pollsters over sampling Dems and under sampling Independents, I seriously doubt anything I see in state polls.
 
Mycroft said:
That's right. I do...and I tell you why. I show you the numbers.

Any pollster who samples Dems at almost 50% of the people they sample, as Fox News polls do, is bogus and should be rejected by anyone who wants polls to be accurate.



I don't evaluate state polls because I don't have reliable party affiliation numbers for all of the states. However, given the practices of pollsters over sampling Dems and under sampling Independents, I seriously doubt anything I see in state polls.
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You reject any poll that doesn't show the dear lead ahead. I know your game.

I use the polling data from my analysis from a right-leaning site.

As I have said before, there's a chance Trump could pull off a Truman here. I am simply pointing out that the ship is sinking.
 
code1211 said:
Did they poll all 75 people who were there?
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Why do you have to be there at the debate to have an opinion of what went down?

CBS and CNN conducted polling among people who watched the debate and they said that Biden won the debate or at least won by default. That's been the consensus view. I am not saying Trump cannot rebound, but things need to dramatically change for him, if he wants to keep up with Biden.
 
BrotherFease said:
You reject any poll that doesn't show the dear lead ahead. I know your game.
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This is a lie.

I use the polling data from my analysis from a right-leaning site.

As I have said before, there's a chance Trump could pull off a Truman here. I am simply pointing out that the ship is sinking.
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Cool. You do what you want.

Why should I care?
 
code1211 said:
Right. I don't see anything going wrong with that. :rolleyes:
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I don't. There's a moderator there for a reason, and he or she needs the necessary tools to maintain order.
 
Mycroft said:
This is a lie.


Cool. You do what you want.

Why should I care?
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By all means, list me polling sources you feel represents the pulse of the country. Republicans and Democrats traditionally use these sources for determining who gets onto their debate stage:

CBS
Fox
NBC
ABC
CNN
Reuters
Quinnipiac
Monmouth
Des Moines Register
University of Iowa
University of New Hampshire
New York Times
Wall Street Journal
Washington Post
PBS

538 gives A ratings to SurveyUSA.

You care, because you responded to it.
 
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