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Household Tyrants: The Republican Push for "Parents' Rights" Comes at the Cost of the Children

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"To empower parents, Florida Republicans would put children in danger. If passed, their Parental Rights in Education legislation, known more commonly as the “don’t say gay” bills, would prevent public-school districts from “encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity,” CBS News reports. A proposed amendment would have required educators to report a child’s disclosure about their gender identity or sexual orientation to parents within six weeks.

Republicans haven’t been shy about their rationale. The text of the bills says they allegedly “reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children.” Last year, Senator Josh Hawley introduced a federal Parents’ Bill of Rights, which would include the right to review curricula and to visit children during school hours. In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced his own Parental Bill of Rights last month. “Parents will be restored to their rightful place as the preeminent decision-maker for their children,” he said at a campaign event held, fittingly, at a charter school. On Wednesday, Abbott told Texas state agencies to investigate reports of gender-affirming care for transgender children.

...As the conservative fringe gathers the party into itself, movements like parental rights move from obscurity into the mainstream. The GOP is turning to parental rights as it tilts headfirst to the far right. The two trends are linked. As Republicans long for a strong figure in power, they imagine the same figure in every home. Subject of a household tyrant, the child has no freedom. They had little enough at all: Their right to an education, to independent thought and action, has historically been secondary to their parent’s preferences. The GOP, with the Christian right behind it, would restrict them further, even if it places them in danger of neglect or abuse.


To the GOP, the parent exists to enforce the party’s will, as though the parent is simply the local arm of a national entity. Parents who fail to obey may find their powers restricted by the state. Authoritarianism is inconsistent in this way; rights granted to followers are not extended to dissenters. For the latter there exists only punishment, a fate that extends to their children. The GOP is the party of parental rights because it is increasingly anti-democratic. It has become the party of ruthless, cynical power, and children aren’t exempt from its schemes. In fact, they’re key.:

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Excellent point. Republican parents rights movement serves a particular group of parents under the guise of "the parents." This is just like how tyrants say they are acting on behalf of "the people." Yeah, their people. No one else qualifies. Other people are more likely to be punished by them than supported by them.

The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them. Same with teaching racism in the classroom. Their parents are rewarded by having such teaching banned. Other parents, who support more diverse voices in the classroom are punished by being denied this for their children altogether.

Needless to say, their parents are mostly straight, white and utterly pissed off about a changing world they can't stop. But if they aren't stopped, they'll do a lot of damage trying.
 
Excellent point. Republican parents rights movement serves a particular group of parents under the guise of "the parents." This is just like how tyrants say they are acting on behalf of "the people." Yeah, their people. No one else qualifies. Other people are more likely to be punished by them than supported by them.

The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them. Same with teaching racism in the classroom. Their parents are rewarded by having such teaching banned. Other parents, who support more diverse voices in the classroom are punished by being denied this for their children altogether.

Needless to say, their parents are mostly straight, white and utterly pissed off about a changing world they can't stop. But if they aren't stopped, they'll do a lot of damage trying.

So true, it's about "parent's rights" yet many parents won't have any rights or freedom. If you want to be more involved then be active in school boards/PTA/whatever? I imagine many of the parents who are just "concerned" about their kids probably hand them over a smart phone and let them Tik Tok their brains out - as long as it's not bothering them. If you don't like it, home school or go private.
 
"To empower parents, Florida Republicans would put children in danger. If passed, their Parental Rights in Education legislation, known more commonly as the “don’t say gay” bills, would prevent public-school districts from “encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity,” CBS News reports. A proposed amendment would have required educators to report a child’s disclosure about their gender identity or sexual orientation to parents within six weeks.

Republicans haven’t been shy about their rationale. The text of the bills says they allegedly “reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children.” Last year, Senator Josh Hawley introduced a federal Parents’ Bill of Rights, which would include the right to review curricula and to visit children during school hours. In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced his own Parental Bill of Rights last month. “Parents will be restored to their rightful place as the preeminent decision-maker for their children,” he said at a campaign event held, fittingly, at a charter school. On Wednesday, Abbott told Texas state agencies to investigate reports of gender-affirming care for transgender children.

...As the conservative fringe gathers the party into itself, movements like parental rights move from obscurity into the mainstream. The GOP is turning to parental rights as it tilts headfirst to the far right. The two trends are linked. As Republicans long for a strong figure in power, they imagine the same figure in every home. Subject of a household tyrant, the child has no freedom. They had little enough at all: Their right to an education, to independent thought and action, has historically been secondary to their parent’s preferences. The GOP, with the Christian right behind it, would restrict them further, even if it places them in danger of neglect or abuse.


To the GOP, the parent exists to enforce the party’s will, as though the parent is simply the local arm of a national entity. Parents who fail to obey may find their powers restricted by the state. Authoritarianism is inconsistent in this way; rights granted to followers are not extended to dissenters. For the latter there exists only punishment, a fate that extends to their children. The GOP is the party of parental rights because it is increasingly anti-democratic. It has become the party of ruthless, cynical power, and children aren’t exempt from its schemes. In fact, they’re key.:

Link

Excellent point. Republican parents rights movement serves a particular group of parents under the guise of "the parents." This is just like how tyrants say they are acting on behalf of "the people." Yeah, their people. No one else qualifies. Other people are more likely to be punished by them than supported by them.

The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them. Same with teaching racism in the classroom. Their parents are rewarded by having such teaching banned. Other parents, who support more diverse voices in the classroom are punished by being denied this for their children altogether.

Needless to say, their parents are mostly straight, white and utterly pissed off about a changing world they can't stop. But if they aren't stopped, they'll do a lot of damage trying.
Imagine that. Parents more invested in their kids getting an actual education in school rather than being subjected to piece of shit Marxist leftists intent on indoctrinating their children in the leftist race/hate orgy of CRT in its current disguise (since CRT is such a ridiculous piece of shit even lecftists arent buying into it) 'anti-racism'...and the pressing of demented leftist gender issues as a new societal norm. Because THAT is what the corrupt leftist pieces of shit governing school boards think schools should be for.

I get why that has you so upset.
 
"To empower parents, Florida Republicans would put children in danger. If passed, their Parental Rights in Education legislation, known more commonly as the “don’t say gay” bills, would prevent public-school districts from “encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity,” CBS News reports. A proposed amendment would have required educators to report a child’s disclosure about their gender identity or sexual orientation to parents within six weeks.

Republicans haven’t been shy about their rationale. The text of the bills says they allegedly “reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children.” Last year, Senator Josh Hawley introduced a federal Parents’ Bill of Rights, which would include the right to review curricula and to visit children during school hours. In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced his own Parental Bill of Rights last month. “Parents will be restored to their rightful place as the preeminent decision-maker for their children,” he said at a campaign event held, fittingly, at a charter school. On Wednesday, Abbott told Texas state agencies to investigate reports of gender-affirming care for transgender children.

...As the conservative fringe gathers the party into itself, movements like parental rights move from obscurity into the mainstream. The GOP is turning to parental rights as it tilts headfirst to the far right. The two trends are linked. As Republicans long for a strong figure in power, they imagine the same figure in every home. Subject of a household tyrant, the child has no freedom. They had little enough at all: Their right to an education, to independent thought and action, has historically been secondary to their parent’s preferences. The GOP, with the Christian right behind it, would restrict them further, even if it places them in danger of neglect or abuse.


To the GOP, the parent exists to enforce the party’s will, as though the parent is simply the local arm of a national entity. Parents who fail to obey may find their powers restricted by the state. Authoritarianism is inconsistent in this way; rights granted to followers are not extended to dissenters. For the latter there exists only punishment, a fate that extends to their children. The GOP is the party of parental rights because it is increasingly anti-democratic. It has become the party of ruthless, cynical power, and children aren’t exempt from its schemes. In fact, they’re key.:

Link

Excellent point. Republican parents rights movement serves a particular group of parents under the guise of "the parents." This is just like how tyrants say they are acting on behalf of "the people." Yeah, their people. No one else qualifies. Other people are more likely to be punished by them than supported by them.

The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them. Same with teaching racism in the classroom. Their parents are rewarded by having such teaching banned. Other parents, who support more diverse voices in the classroom are punished by being denied this for their children altogether.

Needless to say, their parents are mostly straight, white and utterly pissed off about a changing world they can't stop. But if they aren't stopped, they'll do a lot of damage trying.
As long as they perceive themselves as 'owning the libs' they will keep up this bad behavior. It's all about owning the libs.
 
Imagine that. Parents more invested in their kids getting an actual education in school rather than being subjected to piece of shit Marxist leftists intent on indoctrinating their children in the leftist race/hate orgy of CRT in its current disguise (since CRT is such a ridiculous piece of shit even lecftists arent buying into it) 'anti-racism'...and the pressing of demented leftist gender issues as a new societal norm. Because THAT is what the corrupt leftist pieces of shit governing school boards think schools should be for.

I get why that has you so upset.
Lol, as the gop once again has signaled their willingness to do away with the department of education in their eleven point plan for 'freedumb' in america.
 
Imagine that. Parents more invested in their kids getting an actual education in school rather than being subjected to piece of shit Marxist leftists intent on indoctrinating their children in the leftist race/hate orgy of CRT in its current disguise (since CRT is such a ridiculous piece of shit even lecftists arent buying into it) 'anti-racism'...and the pressing of demented leftist gender issues as a new societal norm. Because THAT is what the corrupt leftist pieces of shit governing school boards think schools should be for.

I get why that has you so upset.
Damn. Are you unaware of the irony in your last sentence? Projection, maybe? Lol. Nah. No maybe about it.
 
Imagine that. Parents more invested in their kids getting an actual education in school rather than being subjected to piece of shit Marxist leftists intent on indoctrinating their children in the leftist race/hate orgy of CRT in its current disguise (since CRT is such a ridiculous piece of shit even lecftists arent buying into it) 'anti-racism'...and the pressing of demented leftist gender issues as a new societal norm. Because THAT is what the corrupt leftist pieces of shit governing school boards think schools should be for.

I get why that has you so upset.

Not so upset that I feel the need to swear. This reads like one of those straight white parents who are pissed off about a changing world they can't stop.
 
Not so upset that I feel the need to swear. This reads like one of those straight white parents who are pissed off about a changing world they can't stop.
Who gives a **** if you feel the need to swear or not...what you DO is trip over yourself constantly posting threads defending the proponents of the sick marxist agenda being perpetrated on kids and your sad poutrage over parents finally waking up to and fighting against the indoctrination you support.
 
Lol, as the gop once again has signaled their willingness to do away with the department of education in their eleven point plan for 'freedumb' in america.
The entire Baltimore school district couldnt find even one single student that could pass both a basic English and basic Math competency exam. Schools across the country, especially in the inner cities run for numerous decades by the piece of shit rat politicians you vote for have failed their populations miserably, while in some of those very same cities charter schools have been producing graduating classes of minority youth actually prepared for college and a future.

Its no wonder you cheer on the status quo.
 
The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them.

You are absolutely free to buy your child books such as Gender Queer. Some of us don't think third graders need to be taught about dildos and homosexual sex acts.

 
You are absolutely free to buy your child books such as Gender Queer. Some of us don't think third graders need to be taught about dildos and homosexual sex acts.


But get investigated for child abuse if you seek treatment for your child?

 
The entire Baltimore school district couldnt find even one single student that could pass both a basic English and basic Math competency exam. Schools across the country, especially in the inner cities run for numerous decades by the piece of shit rat politicians you vote for have failed their populations miserably, while in some of those very same cities charter schools have been producing graduating classes of minority youth actually prepared for college and a future.

Its no wonder you cheer on the status quo.
Are you comparing the students of baltimore to the students of squat and holler kentucky?
 
Not sure why you live there. All you seem to do is whine. I disagree with 99% of the policies of the CA state gvt., but I don't whine about them here constantly.

LOL... My family has been here for several generations... No scumbag GQP is running me out of MY state...
 
There is no hard evidence for this type of irrational behavior. Yes this is the hard right fundamentalists that have teamed up with ALEC. ALEC is likely the largest and most frequent source of lies aka misinformation.

Koch oil over the years has spent more money lying about climate change than EXXON-Mobil.

KOCH/ALEC get their tax codes and PRIVATIZATION SCAMS and the hard right fundamentalists get their wars on family and women.
 
Do you think that book is appropriate for eight year olds?

It's none of YOURS nor the GOVERNORS business what I think is appropriate for MY child...
 
Are you comparing the students of baltimore to the students of squat and holler kentucky?
Id say its a fair claim that a good majority of the school systems in the country run by piece of shit rat marxist rats that you support are struggling, and the Dept of Education you blindly support does a good job of chewing through over half of the tax money dedicated to it in beauracrcy and fails miserably in supporting the students.

But again...I get it...you LIKE failed school districts.
 
"To empower parents, Florida Republicans would put children in danger. If passed, their Parental Rights in Education legislation, known more commonly as the “don’t say gay” bills, would prevent public-school districts from “encouraging classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity,” CBS News reports. A proposed amendment would have required educators to report a child’s disclosure about their gender identity or sexual orientation to parents within six weeks.

Republicans haven’t been shy about their rationale. The text of the bills says they allegedly “reinforce the fundamental right of parents to make decisions regarding the upbringing and control of their children.” Last year, Senator Josh Hawley introduced a federal Parents’ Bill of Rights, which would include the right to review curricula and to visit children during school hours. In Texas, Governor Greg Abbott announced his own Parental Bill of Rights last month. “Parents will be restored to their rightful place as the preeminent decision-maker for their children,” he said at a campaign event held, fittingly, at a charter school. On Wednesday, Abbott told Texas state agencies to investigate reports of gender-affirming care for transgender children.

...As the conservative fringe gathers the party into itself, movements like parental rights move from obscurity into the mainstream. The GOP is turning to parental rights as it tilts headfirst to the far right. The two trends are linked. As Republicans long for a strong figure in power, they imagine the same figure in every home. Subject of a household tyrant, the child has no freedom. They had little enough at all: Their right to an education, to independent thought and action, has historically been secondary to their parent’s preferences. The GOP, with the Christian right behind it, would restrict them further, even if it places them in danger of neglect or abuse.


To the GOP, the parent exists to enforce the party’s will, as though the parent is simply the local arm of a national entity. Parents who fail to obey may find their powers restricted by the state. Authoritarianism is inconsistent in this way; rights granted to followers are not extended to dissenters. For the latter there exists only punishment, a fate that extends to their children. The GOP is the party of parental rights because it is increasingly anti-democratic. It has become the party of ruthless, cynical power, and children aren’t exempt from its schemes. In fact, they’re key.:

Link

Excellent point. Republican parents rights movement serves a particular group of parents under the guise of "the parents." This is just like how tyrants say they are acting on behalf of "the people." Yeah, their people. No one else qualifies. Other people are more likely to be punished by them than supported by them.

The library book issue is a good example. Take out books their parents object to. Other parents who support these books in the library are punished by their kids being denied them. Same with teaching racism in the classroom. Their parents are rewarded by having such teaching banned. Other parents, who support more diverse voices in the classroom are punished by being denied this for their children altogether.

Needless to say, their parents are mostly straight, white and utterly pissed off about a changing world they can't stop. But if they aren't stopped, they'll do a lot of damage trying.

Democrats have awakened a sleeping giant: the white parent. I trust we'll get more of this from the left:

1. My kid is supposed to be trans because being cisgender is oppressive.

2. My kid is an oppressor because they are white

This is a godsend for republicans. I hope the left keeps it up.
 
LOL... My family has been here for several generations... No scumbag GQP is running me out of MY state...
In case you've missed it, TX has been conservative since before your family moved there. You're the odd man out.
 
In case you've missed it, TX has been conservative since before your family moved there. You're the odd man out.

LMAO... Texas had almost ALL democrat governors till 1995... Don't let the history lesson hit you in the ass on your way out...
 
Imagine that. Parents more invested in their kids getting an actual education in school rather than being subjected to piece of shit Marxist leftists intent on indoctrinating their children in the leftist race/hate orgy of CRT in its current disguise (since CRT is such a ridiculous piece of shit even lecftists arent buying into it) 'anti-racism'...and the pressing of demented leftist gender issues as a new societal norm. Because THAT is what the corrupt leftist pieces of shit governing school boards think schools should be for.

I get why that has you so upset.

We all get why you post stupid things like this.
 
It's none of YOURS nor the GOVERNORS business what I think is appropriate for MY child...
Deflection noted. I'll ask again, do you think that book is appropriate reading material for eight year olds.
 
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