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House Republican accidentally tells the truth about voter ID

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Rep. Glenn Grothman, a freshman Republican congressman from Wisconsin, was already well known for his right-wing ideology. The GOP lawmaker, for example, has argued against equal-pay legislation by saying, “You could argue that money is more important for men.” He’s also criticized sex-ed classes because, as Grothman put it, some gay teachers “would like it if more kids became homosexuals.”
Now, however, the Wisconsin Republican is likely to be known for something new. TPM reported this morning:
A Republican congressman on Tuesday night acknowledged that the new law requiring a photo ID to vote in Wisconsin could help Republican candidates at the polls in the general election.

“I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up. And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well,” Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-WI), a supporter of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), told Milwaukee television station TMJ4 when asked how either Cruz or Donald Trump could win in November.
The full report from the local NBC affiliate is online here.


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Well another Republican has spilled the beans on the real reason behind voter ID laws, AKA voter suppression laws.
 

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No he didn't, the reporter made that part up. Yes, voter IDs do help republicans, but not for the reason you and this idiot reporter believe. In fact the real reason is very damning to democrats. When we check that the people voting are legally allowed to vote - it helps republicans.
 

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No he didn't, the reporter made that part up. Yes, voter IDs do help republicans, but not for the reason you and this idiot reporter believe. In fact the real reason is very damning to democrats. When we check that the people voting are legally allowed to vote - it helps republicans.

So how many people have been persecuted for voter fraud?
 

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No he didn't, the reporter made that part up. Yes, voter IDs do help republicans, but not for the reason you and this idiot reporter believe. In fact the real reason is very damning to democrats. When we check that the people voting are legally allowed to vote - it helps republicans.

In person voter fraud (the only kind that can be addressed by ID laws) is basically nonexistent. The penalty is severe and there is no personal advantage for putting a vote it.
 

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In person voter fraud (the only kind that can be addressed by ID laws) is basically nonexistent. The penalty is severe and there is no personal advantage for putting a vote it.

Shut up! We're gonna invent a problem so we can pass a law that blocks legitimate voters who "vote the wrong way"!
 

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Read more @: House Republican accidentally tells the truth about voter ID

Well another Republican has spilled the beans on the real reason behind voter ID laws, AKA voter suppression laws. [/FONT][/COLOR]

As Sam Seder said.... Either this guy believes hundreds of thousands of votes in WI were fraudulent (in which case he should be feverishly investigating), or he thinks takin away the vote of legitimate voters is a good thing for him. Either/or.
 

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No he didn't, the reporter made that part up. Yes, voter IDs do help republicans, but not for the reason you and this idiot reporter believe. In fact the real reason is very damning to democrats. When we check that the people voting are legally allowed to vote - it helps republicans.

Not sure why so many Cons try to pull this Con job. Believing voter ID is about anything other than voter suppression (suppression of votes that will not go your way -- the poor, the elderly, students and minorities) is either disingenuous or ignorant. Pick your label.

How Voter ID Laws Are Being Used to Disenfranchise Minorities and the Poor - The Atlantic
Voting Rights and Discrimination FAQ - FindLaw
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/measuring-the-effects-of-voter-identification-m llaws/?_r=0
http://pages.ucsd.edu/~zhajnal/page5/documents/voterIDhajnaletal.pdf
New Study Says Voter ID Laws Suppress Votes | Above the Law


There is no other reason for a Con to advocate for a law to solve no known problem. There is no voter fraud on the scale that would change the outcome of anything other than a very local election.

Everyone that knows anything about this issue, knows why Republicans advocate for voter ID. Occasionally a Republican slips up and tells the truth.

 
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Well that sounds stupid - a lot of poor people are Republicans, too . . . or do people honestly think that only the poor support Democrat policies and viewpoints?

The argument in the OP is not revolved around socioeconomic status............................
 

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So how many people have been persecuted for voter fraud?

If we were catching them all the time, then we wouldn't need Voter ID laws now would we?

How do we prosecute when we don't even know it has occurred????
 

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As Sam Seder said.... Either this guy believes hundreds of thousands of votes in WI were fraudulent (in which case he should be feverishly investigating), or he thinks takin away the vote of legitimate voters is a good thing for him. Either/or.
Nobody gets their vote taken away with voter ID.

Right now, federal law pretty much requires you to have an ID anyways.

Because right now, Federal law requires you to have Health Insurance. And in order to sign up for health insurance, you have to have an ID. In order to USE the health insurance you signed up for, you have to have an ID.

So guess what....

Under Obamacare........ you have to have an ID.
 

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How do you know it's "the truth"? Where does he say anything about "the truth"? He's a freshman. He's been in office a whopping 14 months.

It's quite obvious to anyone with a brain it's 'the truth', and it's one that GOP politicians are not supposed to say out loud.

Hence the term 'rookie mistake'.
 

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Love the left wing soft racism of lowered expectations. As if certain folks, are incapable of getting an ID.
 

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Love the left wing soft racism of lowered expectations. As if certain folks, are incapable of getting an ID.

Because demanding a voter have a certain ID solves what existing problem exactly?
 

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I heard one story where a black woman didnt have a birth certificate and so couldnt vote (which isnt even required). But shes lived there for 80 years. How is it possible to not be able to get proof of citizenship in 80 years? According to the Wisconsin law, you just need proof of residence to vote. At most, you need a drivers license or SS. Shes never driven or worked in 80 years?
 

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Identity fraud, like when that breitbart reporter was able to get Eric Holders ballot. What problem does not requiring an ID solve exactly?

Conservative Activist Allegedly Shows Ease of Voter Fraud Without Photo ID in NC - Breitbart

You and I both know full well that outside of outside isolate incidents - of which there are relatively few - there is no documented voter fraud problem of any size or significance. This is a solution in search of a problem.

I have been voting since 1972 and for the first forty years I never had to have a photo ID to present. My signature was enough and that was how they identified me. And there was no evidence at all of any fraud here where I voted.

There is no problem.

Mike Turzai of Pennsylvania was right - this is a way to add to the Republicans chances of victory be denying democrat voters the right to vote.
 

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If we were catching them all the time, then we wouldn't need Voter ID laws now would we?

How do we prosecute when we don't even know it has occurred????

Because its not occurring on levels that justify the need for these regulations.
 

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How do you know it's "the truth"? Where does he say anything about "the truth"? He's a freshman. He's been in office a whopping 14 months.

“I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up. And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well,”
 

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“I think Hillary Clinton is about the weakest candidate the Democrats have ever put up. And now we have photo ID, and I think photo ID is going to make a little bit of a difference as well,”

I already read that. So whose truth is it exactly?
 

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You and I both know full well that outside of outside isolate incidents - of which there are relatively few - there is no documented voter fraud problem of any size or significance. This is a solution in search of a problem.

I have been voting since 1972 and for the first forty years I never had to have a photo ID to present. My signature was enough and that was how they identified me. And there was no evidence at all of any fraud here where I voted.

There is no problem.

Mike Turzai of Pennsylvania was right - this is a way to add to the Republicans chances of victory be denying democrat voters the right to vote.

Likewise there is no problem of people being prevented from voting by not having ID. Half the states require it. So why not make it the standard to lower the risk of fraud?
 

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Likewise there is no problem of people being prevented from voting by not having ID. Half the states require it. So why not make it the standard to lower the risk of fraud?

During the Wisconsin primary coverage Tuesday several outlets related how college students all over the state were having trouble voting because the GOP legislature changed the law and would no longer take student college ID. So your statement is false.

Election turnout robust despite some confusion over new photo ID requirement | Politics and Elections | host.madison.com

Wisconsin Is Making It Harder For Students To Vote. Now They're Fighting Back. | ThinkProgress

'Desperate times for democracy' in Wisconsin | MSNBC
 
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