Montecresto
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 9, 2013
- Messages
- 24,561
- Reaction score
- 5,507
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
The actions of the US today are a direct result of the actions during the cold war. We are where we are today in the ME because of the Cold War.
When sharks target innocent civilians to blow them to bits, get back to me.
Woodrow Wilson was our most racist post-Civil War President and much else besides. That was a very different time and a very different situation.
We are at that elevated threat level because as the same intelligence agencies pointed out in a 2006 paper, Bush's policies had caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, something you like to ignore!
omg
what 6 years after, and you are still blaming Bush?
as Bob Seger wrote "turn the page"
It doesn't matter if Wilson was a cross dresser. It doesn't matter, and I certainly don't care if he was a racist. I am not a fan of his.
The point is that he and every other person to occupy the White House understood that the public perception must be managed and massaged.
The point is that he hired Edward Bernays into the government for the SOLE purpose of managing "public relations", what we call today PR or spin.
The point is the government officials have a vested interest in managing the public perception and act to achieve that.
If you deny that simple and obvious point, you are being disingenuous.
In a much more refined manner, the government today practices just what Wilson did. It's human nature.
House Intel Committee Chair: US Is At ‘The Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Faced In This Country’
WASHINGTON (CBSDC/AP) — The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee warns that America is dealing with “the highest threat level we have ever faced in this country.” Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., told CBS’ “Face the Nation” on Sunday that the threat is coming from the radicalization of young people and foreign fighters heading to Iraq and Syria to join terror groups.
“They’re very good at communicating through separate avenues where it’s very difficult to track,” Nunes said. “That’s why when you get a young person who is willing to get into these chat rooms, go on the Internet and get radicalized, it’s something we are not only unprepared [for], we are also not used to it in this country.”
Nunes: US Is At ‘Highest Threat Level We Have Ever Faced’ « CBS DC
We are at that elevated threat level because as the same intelligence agencies pointed out in a 2006 paper, Bush's policies had caused an increase in global terrorism, and made America less safe, something you like to ignore!
threat level red - the highest we have ever experienced
US Conservative/OP, please report to the DC Naval Yard and discuss this thread topic
Does this mean you embrace the 1% doctrine that no matter how small the actual threat, no matter how infrequently in reality the threat materializes, the government should spend oodles of $ and waste the US Constitution going through the motions of protecting people?
None of that changes the fact that the threat is real.
The terrorists are coming!
THE TERRORISTS ARE COMING!
Well sure, if using our CIA in 1953 to sabotage the Iranian government to prevent the nationalization of their oil which would have been a benefit to the Iranians instead of Britain, was part of the "Cold War", then I suppose you've a point.
Because admitting a threat exists means you are afraid-lefty ridicule with the underlying implication that it should be ignored.
Im not worried for myself, Im worried for the innocent people who will be needlessly killed.
It is convenient that he brings this up shortly after the change to NSA spying rules... and specifically calls out activity of individuals getting into "chat rooms" and getting recruited.
Its a scare tactic to revive the support for their unlawful snooping.. "in the name of safety!!!"
Actually, the govt revealed that the patriot act did not capture anyone or prevent any attacks.
Therefore its ineffective and has rightfully sunset-ted (though some certainly remains).
Obama actually ran against it, then renewed and expanded it. :doh
Has nothing to do with Obama.... everything is about Obama with you...
Im talking about the INTEL CHIEF... who made these statements.... shortly after the snooping ability was "curbed", if only slightly...
Ok, I understand where you might start to believe that its a conspiracy-but where you lose me is when it comes to the fact that some of these terrorists have been caught. Is there any timing that would not make you suspicious?
None really...
I see no reason why the intel chief needs to tell the American public that we are under threat..... seems he is doing the terrorists job for him..
Would you prefer he keep the American people in the dark? Should we not worry our pretty little heads about reality because its too disturbing?
Do you think we elect our govt to conduct the legitimate functions of govt (including national defense) or should we just "trust" them to tell us what they think is best?
Handling our national defense... and telling us things to put the public in fear so that they can justify taking more of our liberties in the name of "safety" are two different things.
It is not a requirement that they give us these "We're under the greatest thREAT EEVVARRRR!!!!" "woogity-boogity" speeches. It is actually in our best interests that they not tell every last detail of how they are investigating the terrorists so that they don't find "alternate" communication methods.
But... thats none of my business......
We are big boys and girls, and the world is really sometimes a dangerous place. I dont see how ignoring facts because some might abuse them (not saying thats the case here) is a wise strategy.
What benefit does providing this knowledge do for the American Public?
And does it outweigh the downside of giving away information on how we track terrorists TO the terrorists?
I think OPSEC procedures should be employed a little tighter around our specific methods of tracking terrorist activity.
You are asking the wrong questions. Why shouldnt our govt, which serves US, provide us with the facts?
Last I checked, catching terrorists does not include giving away all of the methods used to catch them.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?