• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

House adjourns, ensuring a government shutdown

JacksinPA

JacksinPA

Supporting Member
DP Veteran
Monthly Donator
Joined
Dec 3, 2017
Messages
24,290
Reaction score
14,616
Gender
Male
Political Leaning
Progressive
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-ensuring-a-government-shutdown-idUSKCN1OL00B

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives adjourned just before 7 p.m. on Friday night (0000 GMT on Saturday), leaving the Capitol before approving government funding and thereby ensuring a government shutdown.

The House is set to return from recess at noon on Saturday.
=======================================
Trump's base will erect statues of him as their hero.
 
JacksinPA said:
As pointed out, it was Saturday east of the Prime Meridian (0 degrees longitude).
Click to expand...

Yeah, in the UK. But the House doesn't go by UK timezone (GMT). It goes by EST. Which is why it closed at 7PM EST on Friday and will reopen the next day at noon. IE: They closed for the day and will resume tomorrow.
 
Kal'Stang said:
Yeah, in the UK. But the House doesn't go by UK timezone (GMT). It goes by EST. Which is why it closed at 7PM EST on Friday and will reopen the next day at noon. IE: They closed for the day and will resume tomorrow.
Click to expand...

The government will shutdown at midnight tonight however.
 
It's really with the senate at this point, not the house. The senate approved a bill, and the house made some changes (including adding the wall) and passed a bill. The senate can either vote on the house version, or head to a conference committee. Not much the house can do until the senate picks a path. They could easily approve the house bill with a simple majority, and head home for Christmas.

As for a shut down... really, we're ok. The government is effectively shut down for two weeks anyway.
 
dcsports said:
It's really with the senate at this point, not the house. The senate approved a bill, and the house made some changes (including adding the wall) and passed a bill. The senate can either vote on the house version, or head to a conference committee. Not much the house can do until the senate picks a path. They could easily approve the house bill with a simple majority, and head home for Christmas.

As for a shut down... really, we're ok. The government is effectively shut down for two weeks anyway.
Click to expand...
The government is not normally shutdown because Congress isn’t in session.
 
Atomic Kid said:
The government will shutdown at midnight tonight however.
Click to expand...

:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
 
Kal'Stang said:
:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
Click to expand...

That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.
 
DiAnna said:
That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.
Click to expand...

And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.
 
Kal'Stang said:
:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
Click to expand...

Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care
 
Saladin4 said:
Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care
Click to expand...

Already responded to a similar though far more better said post. Here ya go.

Kal'Stang said:
And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.
Click to expand...
 
JacksinPA said:
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-ensuring-a-government-shutdown-idUSKCN1OL00B

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives adjourned just before 7 p.m. on Friday night (0000 GMT on Saturday), leaving the Capitol before approving government funding and thereby ensuring a government shutdown.

The House is set to return from recess at noon on Saturday.
=======================================
Trump's base will erect statues of him as their hero.
Click to expand...

It first looked like Trump would balk at the shutdown but then it happened. Thank God.
 
Saladin4 said:
Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care
Click to expand...

Thousands of government jobs should be eliminated altogether to help this country get back on its feet.
 
Saladin4 said:
Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care
Click to expand...

Yes, 780,00 will be get paid when an agreement is reached...Democrats cry.

Coal miners lose their jobs permanently...Democrats celebrate.
 
DiAnna said:
That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.
Click to expand...

The US is headed for a total shutdown if we cannot get our fiscal house in order. Shutting our border to incoming illegals is a step in the right direction.
 
MTAtech said:
The government is not normally shutdown because Congress isn’t in session.
Click to expand...

No, but with Christmas and New Years in the middle of the week, non-essential services weren't going to get much done anyway, and even essential ones will be at skeleton crews. If anything, they just gave many of those people extra vacation, as they will be paid once operations resume.
 
DiAnna said:
That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.
Click to expand...

They'll be ok for the weekend. Congress will want to go home, so they'll do something by Monday. Hopefully, Democrats will start to feel the heat and negotiate.
 
Kal'Stang said:
:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
Click to expand...

Last time we had one of significant length, it cost my company tens of thousands of dollars. That really hurts a small business. Do you care yet?
 
marke said:
The US is headed for a total shutdown if we cannot get our fiscal house in order. Shutting our border to incoming illegals is a step in the right direction.
Click to expand...

Leaping over stacks of $100 bills to pick up a penny. How about rolling back the tax cuts we can't afford?
 
Who can still claim that Trump is not as dumb as a bag of hammers? This week proves it in spades, from this avoidable shutdown to losing Mattis over his capitulating to Russia over Syria. One thing for sure - Trump snores while sleeping on his back because his balls slip down over his asshole and block the oxygen to his brain.
 
Kal'Stang said:
:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
Click to expand...

Trumpters don't care? Tell us something else we don't already know.:roll:
 
Kal'Stang said:
And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.
Click to expand...

That presumes that this completely dysfunctional congress will actually pass legislation to pay them quickly, and the completely dysfunctional president signs it.

Meanwhile, these people will be going without any income for an indefinite time, while their bills and mortgage payments keep piling up. A bit of compassion for nearly a million fellow citizens would be appreciated.
 
DiAnna said:
That presumes that this completely dysfunctional congress will actually pass legislation to pay them quickly, and the completely dysfunctional president signs it.

Meanwhile, these people will be going without any income for an indefinite time, while their bills and mortgage payments keep piling up. A bit of compassion for nearly a million fellow citizens would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
Nah, it Christmas, let them pull themselves up by their Christmas tree branches.
 
The only thing worse then a government shutdown....is the government starting back up.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom