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House adjourns, ensuring a government shutdown

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-ensuring-a-government-shutdown-idUSKCN1OL00B

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives adjourned just before 7 p.m. on Friday night (0000 GMT on Saturday), leaving the Capitol before approving government funding and thereby ensuring a government shutdown.

The House is set to return from recess at noon on Saturday.
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As pointed out, it was Saturday east of the Prime Meridian (0 degrees longitude).

Yeah, in the UK. But the House doesn't go by UK timezone (GMT). It goes by EST. Which is why it closed at 7PM EST on Friday and will reopen the next day at noon. IE: They closed for the day and will resume tomorrow.
 

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Yeah, in the UK. But the House doesn't go by UK timezone (GMT). It goes by EST. Which is why it closed at 7PM EST on Friday and will reopen the next day at noon. IE: They closed for the day and will resume tomorrow.

The government will shutdown at midnight tonight however.
 

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It's really with the senate at this point, not the house. The senate approved a bill, and the house made some changes (including adding the wall) and passed a bill. The senate can either vote on the house version, or head to a conference committee. Not much the house can do until the senate picks a path. They could easily approve the house bill with a simple majority, and head home for Christmas.

As for a shut down... really, we're ok. The government is effectively shut down for two weeks anyway.
 

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It's really with the senate at this point, not the house. The senate approved a bill, and the house made some changes (including adding the wall) and passed a bill. The senate can either vote on the house version, or head to a conference committee. Not much the house can do until the senate picks a path. They could easily approve the house bill with a simple majority, and head home for Christmas.

As for a shut down... really, we're ok. The government is effectively shut down for two weeks anyway.
The government is not normally shutdown because Congress isn’t in session.
 

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The government will shutdown at midnight tonight however.

:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:
 

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:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:

That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.
 

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That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.

And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.
 

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:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:

Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care
 

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Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care

Already responded to a similar though far more better said post. Here ya go.

And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.
 

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...-ensuring-a-government-shutdown-idUSKCN1OL00B

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives adjourned just before 7 p.m. on Friday night (0000 GMT on Saturday), leaving the Capitol before approving government funding and thereby ensuring a government shutdown.

The House is set to return from recess at noon on Saturday.
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Trump's base will erect statues of him as their hero.

It first looked like Trump would balk at the shutdown but then it happened. Thank God.
 

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Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care

Thousands of government jobs should be eliminated altogether to help this country get back on its feet.
 

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Over 780,000 will be without pay...But you trump supporters don't care

Yes, 780,00 will be get paid when an agreement is reached...Democrats cry.

Coal miners lose their jobs permanently...Democrats celebrate.
 

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That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.

The US is headed for a total shutdown if we cannot get our fiscal house in order. Shutting our border to incoming illegals is a step in the right direction.
 

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The government is not normally shutdown because Congress isn’t in session.

No, but with Christmas and New Years in the middle of the week, non-essential services weren't going to get much done anyway, and even essential ones will be at skeleton crews. If anything, they just gave many of those people extra vacation, as they will be paid once operations resume.
 

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That's pretty much what Trump said.

Thing is, it does affect hundreds of thousands of people who will either be forced to work without receiving a paycheck or be furloughed without a paycheck for an indeterminate amount of time. They are human beings and fellow American citizens who will suffer hardship because their government has failed its promise to work on their behalf.

They'll be ok for the weekend. Congress will want to go home, so they'll do something by Monday. Hopefully, Democrats will start to feel the heat and negotiate.
 

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:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:

Last time we had one of significant length, it cost my company tens of thousands of dollars. That really hurts a small business. Do you care yet?
 

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The US is headed for a total shutdown if we cannot get our fiscal house in order. Shutting our border to incoming illegals is a step in the right direction.

Leaping over stacks of $100 bills to pick up a penny. How about rolling back the tax cuts we can't afford?
 

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Who can still claim that Trump is not as dumb as a bag of hammers? This week proves it in spades, from this avoidable shutdown to losing Mattis over his capitulating to Russia over Syria. One thing for sure - Trump snores while sleeping on his back because his balls slip down over his asshole and block the oxygen to his brain.
 

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:shrug: So? If they pass something tomorrow the effect will be zero.

Of course I don't care if the government shuts down or not. It doesn't affect me. :shrug:

Trumpters don't care? Tell us something else we don't already know.:roll:
 

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And once the government gets back to running they get paid for the time that they worked. For those that don't work it is a simple vote to pay them for the time that they lost. It's happened before, it will happen again.

That presumes that this completely dysfunctional congress will actually pass legislation to pay them quickly, and the completely dysfunctional president signs it.

Meanwhile, these people will be going without any income for an indefinite time, while their bills and mortgage payments keep piling up. A bit of compassion for nearly a million fellow citizens would be appreciated.
 

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That presumes that this completely dysfunctional congress will actually pass legislation to pay them quickly, and the completely dysfunctional president signs it.

Meanwhile, these people will be going without any income for an indefinite time, while their bills and mortgage payments keep piling up. A bit of compassion for nearly a million fellow citizens would be appreciated.
Nah, it Christmas, let them pull themselves up by their Christmas tree branches.
 

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The only thing worse then a government shutdown....is the government starting back up.
 
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