Homo Sapiens are Sexually Dimorphic Primates.

[MrNiceGuy]

Humans are sexually dimorphic primates who procreate sexually, with males impregnating females. Or, are they something else?

 

[Maccabee]

Humans are sexually dimorphic primates who procreate sexually, with males impregnating females. Or, are they something else?

Where are you going with this?

 

[bomberfox]

Its not a perfect dichotomy or binary.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Where are you going with this?

What does that matter? Does the answer depend on something?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Its not a perfect dichotomy or binary.

Ok, sooo.... We're not a sexually dimorphic species of primate?

If not, what are we?

 

[Luce]

Humans are sexually dimorphic primates who procreate sexually, with males impregnating females. Or, are they something else?

Oh, hey, another trans-bashing thread using the sealion technique. That's new.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Oh, hey, another trans-bashing thread using the sealion technique. That's new.

This thread does not bash transgender people. It's not referring to "Gender." Are you conflating sex and gender?

And you keep using the word sealioning. I have not pursued anyone with relentless questions or requests for evidence. This is a very simple poll thread. You either think the statement is true or false, and you're invited to explain why. That doesn't bash anyone.

 

[Luce]

This thread does not bash transgender people. It's not referring to "Gender." Are you conflating sex and gender?

And you keep using the word sealioning. I have not pursued anyone with relentless questions or requests for evidence. This is a very simple poll thread. You either think the statement is true or false, and you're invited to explain why. That doesn't bash anyone.

Yes, because everyone argues whether or not there are two biological sexes.

You aren't fooling anyone with this bullshit.

 

[Helix]

Did a trans female win a game of tag today or something?

 

[Lisa]

Where are you going with this?

He is looking to erase trans people.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Yes, because everyone argues whether or not there are two biological sexes.

You aren't fooling anyone with this bullshit.

Well, that's why this should be so simple. You should just be able to type something like, "yes, there are two sexes."

You can add any disclaimer you want to make it clear that you think there are lots of genders and that gender and sex are different things. Saying that there are two sexes says nothing about gender.

 

[Luce]

2 weeks later, and this thread is still stupid.

 

[What if...?]

Humans are sexually dimorphic primates who procreate sexually, with males impregnating females. Or, are they something else?

We have very different brains. We think about thinking about things.

Sometimes we think things other Homo sapiens don’t like.

If we always listened to them we wouldn’t be where we are today.

Some people use their thinky brains to decide they don’t like the gender roles that match their physical gender.

So they do something else.

And some Homo sapiens don’t like that.

And if they listened to them they would never be happy.

So they don’t.

 

[Integrityrespec]

This thread does not bash transgender people. It's not referring to "Gender." Are you conflating sex and gender?

And you keep using the word sealioning. I have not pursued anyone with relentless questions or requests for evidence. This is a very simple poll thread. You either think the statement is true or false, and you're invited to explain why. That doesn't bash anyone.

gender:
NOUN

1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones.

 

[Kelby]

Humans are sexually dimorphic primates who procreate sexually, with males impregnating females. Or, are they something else?

That is true.

And the LGBTQ population also exists.

What a world!

 

[MrNiceGuy]

That is true.

And the LGBTQ population also exists.

What a world!

Sure, lesbians, gays, and bisexuals are not different sexes.

The T for transgender doesn't change a person's sex, does it?

This idea that to recognize that means that they don't "exist" is a red herring. Of course people of all orientations, predilections, preferences, expressions and "identitied" exist. That doesn't change their sex. A black guy may "identify" as white. Doesn't mean his race changed, does it?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

gender:
NOUN

1. either of the two sexes (male and female), especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones.

And here we have one of the issues related to this matter. Here we have a dictionary definition that relates sex to gender. That is not the current thing, really, since the LGBT community demands that sex and gender are two different things and should not be "conflated." Doesn't this definition "conflate" sex with gender?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

We have very different brains. We think about thinking about things.

Sometimes we think things other Homo sapiens don’t like.

If we always listened to them we wouldn’t be where we are today.

Some people use their thinky brains to decide they don’t like the gender roles that match their physical gender.

So they do something else.

And some Homo sapiens don’t like that.

And if they listened to them they would never be happy.

So they don’t.

Nobody says a male has to fill socially constructed roles in order to be male. A male can be effeminate, and love being a homemaker and caregiver for kids (traditionally female roles). But, not that long ago, the feminist idea was that men should be allowed to just be male and also fill those traditionally female roles, and vice versa. Now, for some reason, if a male wants to fill female roles, we're suppose to encourage them to actually say they are, in fact, a woman, and not a man who just doesn't conform to traditional roles.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

He is looking to erase trans people.

Not in the least. You're looking to erase biological sex.

 

[MrNiceGuy]

2 weeks later, and this thread is still stupid.

I know, it just surprised me how quickly people were able to name the other sexes. /s

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Did a trans female win a game of tag today or something?

What's a trans female? I thought the gender was "woman" - and female is a "sex" right? Are you conflating sex with gender?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Yes, because everyone argues whether or not there are two biological sexes.

You aren't fooling anyone with this bullshit.

There are people on this thread arguing just that.

Fooling? Since you agree "there are two sexes" then there is nothing you and I disagree with on this thread. I don't deny people identify as a different gender.

So, what's the problem?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Its not a perfect dichotomy or binary.

How so? Referring only to biological sex, is there a third?

 

[MrNiceGuy]

Oh, hey, another trans-bashing thread using the sealion technique. That's new.

If anyone claims that humans are not sexually dimorphic, procreating sexually with two sexes, then it stands to reason they would be able to explain their position, no?

If it's just that "trans people want to be called something that is different than their sex," then I don't have any issue with them doing that. People can do what they want. However, does that change their sex in actual fact? If not, then what is the issue?

 

[Helix]

What's a trans female? I thought the gender was "woman" - and female is a "sex" right? Are you conflating sex with gender?

Google it or something.