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Homicide Rates Higher in States with More Guns at Home

KidRocks

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I always knew there was a good reason for my mother to ban and forbid all types of guns in our household, why, my mother would not allow us to even play with toy guns, they to were banned from our home.

It's as simple as that, guns kill, our entire family has always lived without guns in our homes, thank God we never needed them for any reason.

But hey, you want guns in your homes, go ahead, I don't care, what ever turns you on, but please be careful with guns around children...

remember, guns don't kill people, people with easy access to guns kill people!











Homicide Rates Higher in States with More Guns at Home - Yahoo! News

Guns are used to kill two out of every three homicide victims in the United States, and new research shows that easy-access guns in the home make a difference. Homicide rates are highest in states where more households have guns, the national survey concludes.

The finding held even after taking into account socioeconomic status and gender.

"Our findings suggest that in the United States, household firearms may be an important source of guns used to kill children, women and men, both on the street and in their homes," said lead researcher Matthew Miller of the Harvard School of Public Health.
 
Absolutely agree; my household is gun-free also and I wouldn't have it any other way.
 
But hey, you want guns in your homes, go ahead, I don't care, what ever turns you on, but please be careful with guns around children...

remember, guns don't kill people, people with easy access to guns kill people!

And that is the key thing some gun owners forget. Along with the right to own a gun, there is also the responsibility for safety as well.

Almost all of the people I personally know are safe with the storage of their weapons (especially around children), however there is always that one person that is a dumbshit.
 
Absolutely agree; my household is gun-free also and I wouldn't have it any other way.

great-put a sign on your front door or front lawn proclaiming that fact. I am tired of people like you bashing my rights while gaining some protection from those of us who realize that personal safety is an individual responsibility

Its funny that almost everyone who deals with criminals on a constant basis has guns-judges, prosecutors and cops. EVEN RON KUBY has a gun. I know-he helped me get my NY carry permit many many years ago
 
Fearmongers Ambitious For Restraint

"Fearmongers Ambitious For Restraint"
And that is the key thing some gun owners forget. Along with the right to own a gun, there is also the responsibility for safety as well.
Almost all of the people I personally know are safe with the storage of their weapons (especially around children), however there is always that one person that is a dumbshit.
It is propoganda.
Preying on fear, anti-libertarians seek to betray freedom, which ultimately resides as a personal responsibility established in the right to bare arms.
Injustice must be confronted but, cowardice is no excuse for surrendering the final authority.
 
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You all do know that the study makes no argument or support for more gun laws. it doesn't distinquish between legal and illegal guns.
 
Re: Fearmongers Ambitious For Restraint

"Fearmongers Ambitious For Restraint"
It is propoganda.
Preying on fear, anti-libertarians seek to betray freedom, which ultimately resides as a personal responsibility established in the right to bare arms.
Injustice must be confronted but, cowardice is no excuse for surrendering the final authority.

I'm sorry, not following. Are you saying that gun owners shouldn't have the responsibility of safety with the weapon OR are you saying that gun owners are ALWAYS careful and make no mistakes? What are you talking about propaganda?

I wasn't advocating banning guns at all. I own one personally, I was only saying that the responsibility of the safety of the weapon is with the owner of said weapon. I wasn't even saying that all gun owners are irresponsible, but yes, some are.
 
It doesn't appear that lifestyle was even considered.

Drugs do not discriminate between races or wealth.

During the study period, 1860 homicides occurred in the three counties, 444 of them (23.9 percent) in the home of the victim. After excluding 24 cases for various reasons, we interviewed proxy respondents for 93 percent of the victims. Controls were identified for 99 percent of these, yielding 388 matched pairs. As compared with the controls, the victims more often lived alone or rented their residence. Also, case households more commonly contained an illicit-drug user, a person with prior arrests, or someone who had been hit or hurt in a fight in the home. After controlling for these characteristics, we found that keeping a gun in the home was strongly and independently associated with an increased risk of homicide (adjusted odds ratio, 2.7; 95 percent confidence interval, 1.6 to 4.4). Virtually all of this risk involved homicide by a family member or intimate acquaintance.
Source: NEJM -- Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home

1998, but I would guess it hasn't changed much.
 
Absolutely agree; my household is gun-free also and I wouldn't have it any other way.

My house is absolutely gun "full"
I wouldn't have it any other way!
 
great-put a sign on your front door or front lawn proclaiming that fact. I am tired of people like you bashing my rights while gaining some protection from those of us who realize that personal safety is an individual responsibility

Its funny that almost everyone who deals with criminals on a constant basis has guns-judges, prosecutors and cops. EVEN RON KUBY has a gun. I know-he helped me get my NY carry permit many many years ago


What?
I work in the criminal justice system....I don't know where you live.....but out of the 900 or so prosecutors I work with....I would estimate that less that 10% have guns in their homes. Do I know this as a fact....no....because I don't know all 900.....but I have a fairly friendly relationship with about 150-200 of them....and most do not have guns.....of those less than 5% of them have guns....and those are not handguns...but rifles...for hunting.....
Of the Judges I know personally....only 1 has guns....again rifles for hunting....I know at least 60-70 judges and I don't know 1 who owns a handgun.
 
What?
I work in the criminal justice system....I don't know where you live.....but out of the 900 or so prosecutors I work with....I would estimate that less that 10% have guns in their homes. Do I know this as a fact....no....because I don't know all 900.....but I have a fairly friendly relationship with about 150-200 of them....and most do not have guns.....of those less than 5% of them have guns....and those are not handguns...but rifles...for hunting.....
Of the Judges I know personally....only 1 has guns....again rifles for hunting....I know at least 60-70 judges and I don't know 1 who owns a handgun.

really? maybe its california. Half the judges in my county pack or have guns readily available.

what do you do?

95% of the cops according to most surveys (including one that Janet Reno Commissioned-it was 86'd for public consumption when it didn't say what she was hoping it would) have guns at home.
 
Almost all of the people I personally know are safe with the storage of their weapons (especially around children), however there is always that one person that is a dumbshit.

yup, everytime you look in the mirror.........
 
Wow as usual no relevant comment and just a personal attack by Cold Dirt. Not surprised here.

Funny how much of a hypocrite you are.....how many times have you attacked me in the last couple days?

Do you really think I will stand by and let someone like YOU get away with calling me a liar? Little boy think again........
 
Do you really think I will stand by and let someone like YOU get away with calling me a liar? Little boy think again........

Let's see you've failed to provide any evidence that I asked in other threads so if the shoe fits....
 
Funny how much of a hypocrite you are.....how many times have you attacked me in the last couple days?

Do you really think I will stand by and let someone like YOU get away with calling me a liar? Little boy think again........

Buddy, enough already.

None of your posts in this thread were anywhere near the topic.
Get back on topic or don't post in the thread, I would really appreciate it if you tried to contribute a little more than you do. That goes for more than just this thread.

Now... lets get back on topic shall we?
 
Buddy, enough already.

None of your posts in this thread were anywhere near the topic.
Get back on topic or don't post in the thread, I would really appreciate it if you tried to contribute a little more than you do. That goes for more than just this thread.

Now... lets get back on topic shall we?

Mind your own business....this is between me and Next...he has called me a liar numerous times in the last couple of days and I am sick of it.......

he is the type that claims to support the troops yet attacks me an combat disabled vet every chance he gets.......he gets what he deserves......

so if you want to take his side in this matter go ahead......but you will become no better than him...........

so Next, lets set up an instant message time where me and you can discuss our military careers and really see who is the liar......

so either you put up or shut the **** up questioning my military background.......then after I will accept your apology....you can tell everyone else what a fool I made out of you........


How about this.....I get a couple of my fellow Tops from Ft Bragg email you from a email address from Bragg where you can check the address to see that it is from a govt IP and they can rub your face in the mud about my service......

BTW Caine, I was in the 2/325th(1985-1987) and then again in the 4/325th (1982-1984) in Italy, then finished my career in the 1/504th.......between I spent some time at Benning at Jump School then mostly with 3rd Batt until I was promoted back to Bragg.....HQ huh.......Do you remember a SFC of the name James Boyd????....he was with the 4th before it was disbanded into the other 3 batts.....
 
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so either you put up or shut the **** up questioning my military background.......then after I will accept your apology....you can tell everyone else what a fool I made out of you........

I called you a liar because you said liberals WANT a civil war, not because of your military background. I asked you to provide proof of your liberal claim and you never did. I said due to your lying it makes me question whether you are in the military or not because you have no integrity.

Now, either put up your claims that liberals said this or YOU get branded a liar. I'll await YOUR apology for lying since I have not lied about you in the least due to your comments.

Now get on thread or get out. I'm tired of dealing with your childish remarks.
 
Lets get this thing back on track:roll:
 
I called you a liar because you said liberals WANT a civil war, not because of your military background. I asked you to provide proof of your liberal claim and you never did. I said due to your lying it makes me question whether you are in the military or not because you have no integrity.

Now, either put up your claims that liberals said this or YOU get branded a liar. I'll await YOUR apology for lying since I have not lied about you in the least due to your comments.

Now get on thread or get out. I'm tired of dealing with your childish remarks.

What because I dont jump through hoops to answer your post you brand me a liar?? Sorry buddy but I have better things to do than waste any more time on you......so as I said...put up or shut up......just today I responded to a post where a liberal said they wanted to see civil war in Iraq yet that wasnt good enough for you........

sorry you are too blind to see it....but many have said this very thing.....listen to Air America some time.....ole Al has said numerous times that he believes that we should pull out of Iraq and let the religious nuts kill each other off then go back in to clean up Bush's mess.......that would be a civil war no matter how you try to spin it.......I will look to see if I can find him quoted and post a link......crow eating time for someone.......
 
sorry you are too blind to see it....but many have said this very thing.....listen to Air America some time.....ole Al has said numerous times that he believes that we should pull out of Iraq and let the religious nuts kill each other off then go back in to clean up Bush's mess.......that would be a civil war no matter how you try to spin it.......I will look to see if I can find him quoted and post a link......crow eating time for someone.......

That's isn't someone wanting to see a civil war, that is someone who thinks ONE IS ALREADY HAPPENING. AGain, your proof is DEBUNKED and my original comment is true.

Thank you and have a nice day. Will be waiting for your apology for your obvious spins. There have been NO LIBERALS that have said the WANTED a civil war. Plain and simple. Try again.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Cease and desist with the personal attacks NOW. There is a specific forum for that sort of thing down in the Basement. Take it there or don't say anything at all. Get this thread back on topic and stop debating each other personally.
 
Thank you and have a nice day. Will be waiting for your apology for your obvious spins. There have been NO LIBERALS that have said the WANTED a civil war. Plain and simple. Try again.

DU was full of lefties screaming for civil war. The ABC board has several that constantly call for "the overthrow of Bush by any means possible".

I don't like the term liberal. Parasitic Reactionary statists are more useful in describing the far left. Moderate left-wishy washy is a better term!!:mrgreen:
 
Ahem. I believe this thread is about guns....and I also believe that there are other threads devoted to the topic of the war.
 
You are all the time reading about drug crazed people breaking into peoples homes looking for drugs or the money to buy them........I have 2 handguns and 2 rifles in my home.......I taught my wife and children had to shoot a gun when they were growing up.......The is a loaded 38 Caliber pistol on my nightstand and I am a very light sleeper..........If someone trys to break into my house in the middle of the night they will feel the full brunt of my weapons........

You liberals that are against owning guns that is your business.......You would like to see us all give up our guns so that the only people that would have them are the criminals because they sure as hell ain't going to give theirs up..........

Well I ain't giving mine up.............
 
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