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Is it time we ceased allowing this to affect our thinking with regard to our slavish protection of Israel?
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Is it time we ceased allowing this to affect our thinking with regard to our slavish protection of Israel?
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Why are you jealous?
what was done should never be forgotten! Period.......
 
Is it time we ceased allowing this to affect our thinking with regard to our slavish protection of Israel?
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Israel is the only truly liberal Democracy in the region, regardless of the holocaust they are deserving of our protection, moderation in the defense of liberty is no virtue.
 
Only to pro-Jihadist useful idiots.

You need to be corrected. What your statement should read is:

Only to sane and rational people.

Of course, you would support a nation which sets up spy rings in our country and spies on our government agencies wouldn't you?
 
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We should have stopped allowing the memory of the Holocaust influence our political and strategic decision-making in the Middle East as soon as it was over. "Never again" is their vow and their rallying cry, and it is their responsibility to ensure that it never happens to them again.

If we were to defend every nation that has ever been the victim of total warfare, or even every nation that has been subjected to genocide at some point in its history, we would never know a moment's peace-- even if we chose to ignore the crimes of our own history.
 
Israel is the only truly liberal Democracy in the region, regardless of the holocaust they are deserving of our protection, moderation in the defense of liberty is no virtue.

How many muslims have been elected to office, or vote for that matter?
 
Korimyr said, “If we were to defend every nation that has ever been the victim of total warfare, or even every nation that has been subjected to genocide at some point in its history, we would never know a moment's peace-- even if we chose to ignore the crimes of our own history.”

So what your saying is…..we should only concern ourselves with ourselves, to hell with the rest of the world.

So we shouldn’t step into help other nations? No military help, even if in the end it benefit us.

Then you would probably no doubt agree that we shouldn’t send massive amounts of money to help countries to combat AIDS, hunger. That we shouldn’t help countries who are hit by earthquakes and natural disasters.
 
We should have stopped allowing the memory of the Holocaust influence our political and strategic decision-making in the Middle East as soon as it was over. "Never again" is their vow and their rallying cry, and it is their responsibility to ensure that it never happens to them again.

Your argument basically says it is not our responsibility to worry about the plight of other nations.

Ok.

Let's apply your logic to someplace other than Israel.... hrm.....

Darfur?

USAID: Sudan: Darfur Humanitarian Emergency

So America shouldn't be sending 500 million in aid right? Since it is their responsibility and not ours.

With 800 posts I'm surprised you fell into such an obvious trap.
 
It truly amazes me how an article on opening up Holocaust archives, mostly sealed since the end of WWII, causes some to express anti-Israeli sentiments. Is there a stronger word synonomous to misguided? Y'all want to bash Israel, how about staying focused on the Israeli-Palestinian confict. Your arguments will be more debatable and you'll look less foolish then if you use things like opening holocaust archives up as a starting point, especially since Israel/Palestine was not mentioned once in the article.
 
It truly amazes me how an article on opening up Holocaust archives, mostly sealed since the end of WWII, causes some to express anti-Israeli sentiments. Is there a stronger word synonomous to misguided? .


Not necessarily stronger, but I consider it a conditioned response. Pavlov would be proud.


On the positive side, I understand that stocks in companies working on spittle-proof computer keyboards are rather bullish these days.
 
So what your saying is…..we should only concern ourselves with ourselves, to hell with the rest of the world. ... So we shouldn’t step into help other nations? No military help, even if in the end it benefit us.

No. What I'm saying is, when we decide to get involved in other nations' affairs, we should do so on the basis of what benefits us, what benefits our allies, and what benefits our trading partners. In that order.

And, we need to seek out and utterly destroy the misguided moral belief that victimhood is somehow equivalent to virtue-- that just because something bad has happened to someone, that they deserve our help.

We didn't used to think that way. As a matter of fact, we didn't start out as a friend and ally to Israel, either; we waited until they proved that they were worth the effort and that they were going to survive with or without our help.

I just get sick and tired of listening to people talk about how the world-- and especially the United States-- owes Israel something for what happened to the Jews... while forgetting that it was the United States and the Soviet Union that ended the Holocaust. And I am especially sick of seeing a strong, proud, and militant nation being viewed as a victim and an object of pity.

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Let's apply your logic to someplace other than Israel.... hrm... Darfur?

Well, if we're going to compare the two, I might point out that 500 million dollars is a pittance compared to what we've given Israel, and what we continue to give Israel.

I might also point out that, unlike the Jewish genocide, the Darfur genocide is actually still in progress.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't continue to support Israel; as I've noted repeatedly, they're a staunch and competent ally and our relations with them has been beneficial. But we shouldn't allow the fact that they were the victim of war crimes sixty years ago influence our decision-making; it is irrelevant to both of our strategic goals and soft-headed sentimentalism at best.

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So America shouldn't be sending 500 million in aid right? Since it is their responsibility and not ours.

To tell you the truth, I'm not sure we should be sending aid to Sudan. I'm not entirely convinced that it's helping the situation, and I certainly don't see how it's going to benefit us in the long run.

On the other hand, 500 million dollars is a drop in the bucket and it makes people feel better about themselves. I'm certainly not going to complain too much about it.
 
And all of this has to do with the original article, how?
 
Not necessarily stronger, but I consider it a conditioned response. Pavlov would be proud.


On the positive side, I understand that stocks in companies working on spittle-proof computer keyboards are rather bullish these days.

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