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At the Oscars, there was only Hollywood liberal still too oblivious to realize that Americans don't want to listen to halfwit college dropouts abusing their fame for political crusades-George Clooney.

Like all good liberals, Clooney got his pat on the forehead and called brave for regurgitating age-old liberal fictions against Joseph McCarthy in the making of his new movie, "Good Night and Good Luck."

The film predictably contained a lot of parallels to and innuendos about the Patriot Act and all the other evil things conservatives are currently doing to prevent the left's beloved "religion of peace" from committing anymore mass murder against Americans. But despite all the subtle propagandistic tactics, the one-sided portrayals, and the exaggerated portrayals of entertainers and anti-American journalists as "victims," the issue I really want to look at is the perpetuation of the McCarthy lies.

We are programmed by liberal textbooks and the liberal media to look at "McCarthyism" with disdain. 9 times out of 10, the things we associate with McCarthy had nothing to do with him. His sole focus had nothing to do with Hollywood "blacklists," or un-American activities investigations, or much of the hysteria that got attributed to him (consider, for example, that the HOUSE Un-American Activities Committee was responsible for much more of what went on than SENATOR McCarthy was in his mere 3 years). His sole focus was on people in high positions of power who posed security risks by being aligned with the Soviet Union. He brought important things to light, and long after his death, he was proved right about many of them.

When FBI records were released that proved it, the media buried it 6 pages back in tiny side stories. When the Soviet Union collapsed and many of their historical classified documents were released to the public, and many of the names McCarthy had cited turned up on Soviet payroll lists and on Soviet contacts lists, a couple of major papers carried barely noticeable blips about it, again, several pages back, and nothing else was ever said about it.

McCarthy was not what they have made him out to be. He wasn't always right, and there certainly was political hardball going on. But he brought up entirely legitimate concerns about people having ties to Communists who were working in our military and in our government, and he has been vilified for it by the people who lost face-Democrats. When Communist agents were discovered working at the highest levels of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations and not subsequently removed/deported, but PROMOTED, it wasn't Truman who was torn apart by the media, it was anyone who dared to object to it. The most ridiculed public figures in America in the 20th century-ridiculed by Hollywood, academia and the media-were always the ones who posed the biggest threat to Communism: McCarthy, J.Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Whittaker Chambers, and Ronald Reagan.

This film is no exception. In three years, with nearly every word that came out of McCarthy's mouth being broadcast across the country on a daily basis, there were few actual misstatements. So naturally, Clooney focused on them neurotically.

Example: On three separate occasions, the film highlights a trivial misstatement of McCarthy's about the ACLU and acts like it is some smoking gun proving that McCarthy is Satan. In three years of daily speeches, this is all they could find to discredit him with? Now I know where Al Franken got his devastating ability to make a case from.

The misstatement was about the ACLU being on the Attorney General's list of subversive groups operating within the U.S. It was an understandable mistake considering what a Soviet comrade the ACLU has historically been. There was only one member of Roosevelt's cabinet who opposed the internment of the Japanese during WWII-J.Edgar Hoover. The ACLU gave him an award for wartime vigilance. As soon as he began using his wartime vigilance on the Soviets, the ACLU, like the media, academia, and Hollywood-decided he was a monster.

The film also spends quite some time on the Annie Lee Moss incident which liberals somehow view as McCarthy's greatest, most laughable blunder. What this case actually proved was how hysterically unreasonable the resistance was by the media against McCarthy's anti-Communist hearings.

An FBI informant had attended Communist gatherings and reported that this woman (who worked in the code room at the Pentagon) had been listed as one of their members. She played the fool at the hearings, and Democrats were perfectly willing to help portray yet another black person as a drooling Neanderthal, so they talked down to her like she was retarded and she acted like she was too dumb to be a traitor.

The Communist party's newspaper, The Worker, was delivered to her doorstep at every address she had lived at. She lied at the hearings about attending the meetings and receiving the paper. She pointed out that the D.C. phone book had three Annie Lee Moss listings to suggest that they had the wrong Annie Lee Moss and everyone sighed in relief and considered it case closed. But what none of the hard-nosed reporters (like Edward Murrow) who used this case to broadside McCarthy ferociously never bothered to do was look in the phone book. There is one Annie Moss and one Annie LEE Moss. They had the right Communist. But you would never know it to listen to the media or to watch this movie.

This film perpetuates the same old uneducated lies about McCarthy that you would get anywhere in Hollywood, academia, or the press, but I still advise watching it. It is a great example of how to put an anti-American slant on history and anyone who actually cares about the truth needs to be aware of how and how often the left revises things like this.
 
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aquapub said:
At the Oscars, there was only Hollywood liberal still too oblivious to realize that Americans don't want to listen to halfwit college dropouts abusing their fame for political crusades-George Clooney.

Like all good liberals, Clooney got his pat on the forehead and called brave for regurgitating age-old liberal fictions against Joseph McCarthy in the making of his new movie, "Good Night and Good Luck."

The film predictably contained a lot of parallels to and innuendos about the Patriot Act and all the other evil things conservatives are currently doing to prevent the left's beloved "religion of peace" from committing anymore mass murder against Americans. But despite all the subtle propagandistic tactics, the one-sided portrayals, and the exaggerated portrayals of entertainers and anti-American journalists as "victims," the issue I really want to look at is the perpetuation of the McCarthy lies.

We are programmed by liberal textbooks and the liberal media to look at "McCarthyism" with disdain. 9 times out of 10, the things we associate with McCarthy had nothing to do with him. His sole focus had nothing to do with Hollywood "blacklists," or un-American activities investigations, or much of the hysteria that got attributed to him (consider, for example, that the HOUSE Un-American Activities Committee was responsible for much more of what went on than SENATOR McCarthy was in his mere 3 years). His sole focus was on people in high positions of power who posed security risks by being aligned with the Soviet Union. He brought important things to light, and long after his death, he was proved right about many of them.

When FBI records were released that proved it, the media buried it 6 pages back in tiny side stories. When the Soviet Union collapsed and many of their historical classified documents were released to the public, and many of the names McCarthy had cited turned up on Soviet payroll lists and on Soviet contacts lists, a couple of major papers carried barely noticeable blips about it, again, several pages back, and nothing else was ever said about it.

McCarthy was not what they have made him out to be. He wasn't always right, and there certainly was political hardball going on. But he brought up entirely legitimate concerns about people having ties to Communists who were working in our military and in our government, and he has been vilified for it by the people who lost face-Democrats. When Communist agents were discovered working at the highest levels of the Roosevelt and Truman administrations and not subsequently removed/deported, but PROMOTED, it wasn't Truman who was torn apart by the media, it was anyone who dared to object to it. The most ridiculed public figures in America in the 20th century-ridiculed by Hollywood, academia and the media-were always the ones who posed the biggest threat to Communism: McCarthy, J.Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, Whittaker Chambers, and Ronald Reagan.

This film is no exception. In three years, with nearly every word that came out of McCarthy's mouth being broadcast across the country on a daily basis, there were few actual misstatements. So naturally, Clooney focused on them neurotically.

Example: On three separate occasions, the film highlights a trivial misstatement of McCarthy's about the ACLU and acts like it is some smoking gun proving that McCarthy is Satan. In three years of daily speeches, this is all they could find to discredit him with? Now I know where Al Franken got his devastating ability to make a case from.

The misstatement was about the ACLU being on the Attorney General's list of subversive groups operating within the U.S. It was an understandable mistake considering what a Soviet comrade the ACLU has historically been. There was only one member of Roosevelt's cabinet who opposed the internment of the Japanese during WWII-J.Edgar Hoover. The ACLU gave him an award for wartime vigilance. As soon as he began using his wartime vigilance on the Soviets, the ACLU, like the media, academia, and Hollywood-decided he was a monster.

The film also spends quite some time on the Annie Lee Moss incident which liberals somehow view as McCarthy's greatest, most laughable blunder. What this case actually proved was how hysterically unreasonable the resistance was by the media against McCarthy's anti-Communist hearings.

An FBI informant had attended Communist gatherings and reported that this woman (who worked in the code room at the Pentagon) had been listed as one of their members. She played the fool at the hearings, and Democrats were perfectly willing to help portray yet another black person as a drooling Neanderthal, so they talked down to her like she was retarded and she acted like she was too dumb to be a traitor.

The Communist party's newspaper, The Worker, was delivered to her doorstep at every address she had lived at. She lied at the hearings about attending the meetings and receiving the paper. She pointed out that the D.C. phone book had three Annie Lee Moss listings to suggest that they had the wrong Annie Lee Moss and everyone sighed in relief and considered it case closed. But what none of the hard-nosed reporters (like Edward Murrow) who used this case to broadside McCarthy ferociously never bothered to do was look in the phone book. There is one Annie Moss and one Annie LEE Moss. They had the right Communist. But you would never know it to listen to the media or to watch this movie.

This film perpetuates the same old uneducated lies about McCarthy that you would get anywhere in Hollywood, academia, or the press, but I still advise watching it. It is a great example of how to put an anti-American slant on history and anyone who actually cares about the truth needs to be aware of how and how often the left revises things like this.
Where's the link to your copy and past job?
 

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The Hollyweird Historical Lie movie genre goes at least back to the first Oliver Stone movie. Just like some of the game boxes, it is creating a dangerous "alternate reality" in the simple minded, who appear to be having increasing difficulty distinguishing the real world from Hollyweird.
 

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alphamale said:
The Hollyweird Historical Lie movie genre goes at least back to the first Oliver Stone movie. Just like some of the game boxes, it is creating a dangerous "alternate reality" in the simple minded, who appear to be having increasing difficulty distinguishing the real world from Hollyweird.
Since when did the entertainment industry ever matter? Lol. Hollywood = entertainment, not policy, and not government. You don't like what they put out? Then don't buy a ticket to go see it. You don't like what's said at the oscars, turn off ABC and don't watch it. Very simple.
 

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jfuh said:
Since when did the entertainment industry ever matter? Lol. Hollywood = entertainment, not policy, and not government. You don't like what they put out? Then don't buy a ticket to go see it. You don't like what's said at the oscars, turn off ABC and don't watch it. Very simple.
No, not quite that simple. Of course I won't watch it, but there are plenty of idiots-with-a-vote who go to such as Michael Moore schlockumentaries, and I may have to live under the laws and policies such people support.
 

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No, not quite that simple. Of course I won't watch it, but there are plenty of idiots-with-a-vote who go to such as Michael Moore schlockumentaries, and I may have to live under the laws and policies such people support.
And of courseMichael moor represents hollywood right? All of Hollywood supports all of Michael Moores ideals. Michael Moore is the God of hollywood right?
In case you hadn't noticed hollywood is only about making money, they could care less of your political leanings. Entertainment business not policy business. Of course there are those rightwing nut heads that would like you to believe otherwise for thier own political motives. Suckering to that, I don't see how that's any different from ppl too stupid to believe everything a movie tells you.
 

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jfuh said:
And of courseMichael moor represents hollywood right? All of Hollywood supports all of Michael Moores ideals. Michael Moore is the God of hollywood right?
In case you hadn't noticed hollywood is only about making money, they could care less of your political leanings. Entertainment business not policy business. Of course there are those rightwing nut heads that would like you to believe otherwise for thier own political motives. Suckering to that, I don't see how that's any different from ppl too stupid to believe everything a movie tells you.
Total nonsense. Look at the year 2005 in movies: the eighth straight year in declining box office receipts. The academy award "best picture" finalists made less money than any such group since 1986. And look at the movies: Capote (life of a gay); Transamerica (white guy goes in drag); Brokeback Mountain (gay white male cowboys); Hustle and Flow (pathetic ambitions of a pimp); Goodnight and Good Luck (wholesale distortion of history; tiresome old anti-anti-communism); Munich (jewish anti-semitism); Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (anti-capitalism); Crash (white people are racists)

etc etc etc ad nauseum. You think if hollyweird is about business, it should turn out an endless sewer flow of this liberal crap? You think that is what americans really want to see?
 

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alphamale said:
Total nonsense. Look at the year 2005 in movies: the eighth straight year in declining box office receipts. The academy award "best picture" finalists made less money than any such group since 1986. And look at the movies: Capote (life of a gay); Transamerica (white guy goes in drag); Brokeback Mountain (gay white male cowboys); Hustle and Flow (pathetic ambitions of a pimp); Goodnight and Good Luck (wholesale distortion of history; tiresome old anti-anti-communism); Munich (jewish anti-semitism); Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (anti-capitalism); Crash (white people are racists)

etc etc etc ad nauseum. You think if hollyweird is about business, it should turn out an endless sewer flow of this liberal crap? You think that is what americans really want to see?
You only want movies that cannot in any way be connected with anything political? Dude, even Night Of The Living Dead is seen as being comment on racism.
 

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You only want movies that cannot in any way be connected with anything political? Dude, even Night Of The Living Dead is seen as being comment on racism.
I didn't say that - read the thread. The other person said that hollyweird is just out to make money. And Night of the Living Dead was itself racist - anti-white male racist, as are many of the movies turned out nowadays.
 

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And Night of the Living Dead was itself racist - anti-white male racist, as are many of the movies turned out nowadays.
HAHAHAHAHAH!
 

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alphamale said:
And look at the movies: Capote (life of a gay); Transamerica (white guy goes in drag); Brokeback Mountain (gay white male cowboys); Hustle and Flow (pathetic ambitions of a pimp); Goodnight and Good Luck (wholesale distortion of history; tiresome old anti-anti-communism); Munich (jewish anti-semitism); Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (anti-capitalism); Crash (white people are racists)

etc etc etc ad nauseum. You think if hollyweird is about business, it should turn out an endless sewer flow of this liberal crap? You think that is what americans really want to see?

Alphamale:

Maybe I've got it wrong, but it sounds like you are saying that Hollywood should only make movies that you find acceptable. Last time I picked up the newspaper I saw a variety of movie playing in the theater. Hollywood is and always has been about making money, however, they are and always have been about making movies to express ideas. Just because you don't agree with the movie or the idea is expresses doesn't mean that it shouldn't be made.
The great thing about America is that we have choices and not everyone has to watch the same regurgitated sequel.

BTW: Have you seen CRASH? The movie is not about white racisim. If you want to generalize it I guess you could say its about multi-ethnic racisim, but its really about how we make generalizations about people based on race and few take time out to venture out of their own "culture" until they crash into each other.
The way you classify the film says a lot. Either you didn't see it and are making uneducated comments (which is bad), OR you did see it and recognized only the white racisim in the film (which is even worse).
 

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alphamale said:
Total nonsense. Look at the year 2005 in movies: the eighth straight year in declining box office receipts. The academy award "best picture" finalists made less money than any such group since 1986. And look at the movies: Capote (life of a gay); Transamerica (white guy goes in drag); Brokeback Mountain (gay white male cowboys); Hustle and Flow (pathetic ambitions of a pimp); Goodnight and Good Luck (wholesale distortion of history; tiresome old anti-anti-communism); Munich (jewish anti-semitism); Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (anti-capitalism); Crash (white people are racists)

etc etc etc ad nauseum. You think if hollyweird is about business, it should turn out an endless sewer flow of this liberal crap? You think that is what americans really want to see?
As I've said already. If you don't like it, don't go to watch it. Capote, Goodnight and good luck, Munich, Crash were all very well made movies. If you can't appreciate it then do exactly what you did, don't see them.
If you don't think that Hollywood is about making money then perhaps you should try getting a life.
 

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Homosexuality is big in the news in America so the entertainment industry will use this to make money.

People in today’s world do not want the "Brady bunch". The majority of America is entertained by hero stories of love and/or triumph surrounding a story of corruption, hate, struggle, death, fear, etc.

Why do you think Reality TV is so big? People want to see other people's struggle in hard situations. Whether that be physically, mentally, or emotionally. They want the anticipation of seeing other individual overcome struggles, not have everything work out great with no problems.

Life is a struggle in every way shape and form (racism, corruption, lies, heartbreak, etc.).

Politics, corruption, racism, and terrorism have been movie subjects every year since atleast the mid 80's. You cannot point out 2005 as being exclusive to these things.

alphamale if you want a dictatorship that controls the media and entertainment industry perhaps you should move to Iran.
 
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I heard that the Oscars had the lowest ratings this year since the rating system was devised..............That should tell the hollywierd snobs what middle and red state America think of the garbage they make.........
 

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I heard that the Oscars had the lowest ratings this year since the rating system was devised..............That should tell the hollywierd snobs what middle and red state America think of the garbage they make.........
I think most people are done with celebrating how rich entertainers are. So someone can act like someone else for 3-6 months? Why do they need to be given millions of dollars and be celebrated for this?

I am a democrat in California and I couldn't care less about the Oscars.
 

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And look at the movies: Capote (life of a gay); Transamerica (white guy goes in drag); Brokeback Mountain (gay white male cowboys); Hustle and Flow (pathetic ambitions of a pimp); Goodnight and Good Luck (wholesale distortion of history; tiresome old anti-anti-communism); Munich (jewish anti-semitism); Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room (anti-capitalism); Crash (white people are racists)

etc etc etc ad nauseum. You think if hollyweird is about business, it should turn out an endless sewer flow of this liberal crap? You think that is what americans really want to see?
just imagine how boring a mivie about traditional family values would be
 

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alphamale said:
The Hollyweird Historical Lie movie genre goes at least back to the first Oliver Stone movie. Just like some of the game boxes, it is creating a dangerous "alternate reality" in the simple minded, who appear to be having increasing difficulty distinguishing the real world from Hollyweird.

It wouldn't be such a big deal if there was a way for people to get the actual facts and the other side of the story, but far left labor unions control the textbooks, the far left controls the universities, and the far left controls Hollywood.
 

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It wouldn't be such a big deal if there was a way for people to get the actual facts and the other side of the story, but far left labor unions control the textbooks, the far left controls the universities, and the far left controls Hollywood.

Can you say paranoia? Dude, you've been watching too many horror movies.
 

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just imagine how boring a mivie about traditional family values would be
Only to someone like you......................Good moral movies actually do better at the box office here in the USA.........
 

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Can you say paranoia? Dude, you've been watching too many horror movies.
You spend to much time at disneyland my friend...........You live in that fantasy world........Wake up before its to late..........
 

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And of courseMichael moor represents hollywood right? All of Hollywood supports all of Michael Moores ideals. Michael Moore is the God of hollywood right?
In case you hadn't noticed hollywood is only about making money, they could care less of your political leanings. Entertainment business not policy business. Of course there are those rightwing nut heads that would like you to believe otherwise for thier own political motives. Suckering to that, I don't see how that's any different from ppl too stupid to believe everything a movie tells you.
Hollywood is all about making money while espousing left wing causes.

Otherwise Hollywood wouldn't have trashed Gibson's Passion of the Christ.

(Well, okay, the Jews run Hollywierd, and even Jews that detest Hollywierd, like columnist broad Moaning Charon trashed the film before it came out. Okay, bad example...]

Name the major Hollywierd motion picture in the last fifty years that didn't have a sympathetic left-wing theme.

True Grit.

What else?
 

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vergiss said:
You only want movies that cannot in any way be connected with anything political? Dude, even Night Of The Living Dead is seen as being comment on racism.

Curious George.

The Pokemon Movie.

The Powerpuff Girls Movie.

Miyazaki's "Spirited Away".

Zathura.

Jumanji.

The Butterfly Effect.

The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.
 

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Willoughby said:
just imagine how boring a mivie about traditional family values would be
Why do you think that? The King and I is one of the best movies ever made.

What we see today are movies in which violation of values is exalted. The fag cowboy movie involved adultery as well as crimes against nature. Big deal.

Yet if they re-made Steinbeck's The Winter of Our Discontent, and used the same care and skill, it would again be a wonderful film about a man struggling to teach his children values.

They remade Cheaper by the Dozen. What a waste. They remade that old movie with Henry Ford and Lucille Ball, who got married while each already had a dozen kids. I avoided that one, the trailers were bad enough, yet the original was okay.

What do they make in movies? The Little Rascals? The Flintstones? Ah...Bewitched. I might pay money to see who it is they'll be dressing up in an "I Dream of Jeanie" costume, though...
 

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There isn't one. I stayed up for over an hour typing this out last night.

Yeah, looked like it. Good job. Tell Mikey Medved to move over.
 
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