Hip-Hop, A culture, A lasting fad, A detriment? (1 Viewer)

[el_joven]

Does Hip-Hop define the African-American Race?

Should it?

Is it a detriment to our society?

Does it support violence?

Is it an answer to violence and oppression?

Who knows? One thing is for sure-It doesn't seem to be going away so.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

Does Hip-Hop define the African-American Race?

I dont know if race is the appropriate word, but the answer is no it doesnt.

Should it?

Should is subjective to the intentions of the judge. It should if you want to generalize about an entire population based on the expressions of a portion of that population.

Is it a detriment to our society?

Not at all

Does it support violence?

Perhaps hardcore gangster rap does, but never against civilians.

Is it an answer to violence and oppression?

Violence no, oppression yes.

Who knows? One thing is for sure-It doesn't seem to be going away so.

What does that matter, unless you had interests in it going away...

 

[Voidwar]

Sampling is plagiarism.
Chanting < Singing.
Musicians, can read music and play an instrument.

The genre is a garbage heap with 3 or 4 funny ditties hiding in it.

 

[el_joven]

I dont know if race is the appropriate word, but the answer is no it doesnt.

why not? I know as a black man I have never been asked if I listen to slip knot or green day who happen to be the only rck and roll names I can think of.

Should is subjective to the intentions of the judge. It should if you want to generalize about an entire population based on the expressions of a portion of that population.

well I also asked in the polls if you think society views it as such. should is used to ask if society can reasonably. Perhaps I should have clarified.


When I ask if its a detriment you say no. But do you think that hip hop has had no negative influences in our community? Even as someone who does listen to hip-hop I know this is very untrue

And it never supports violence against civilians. Well what about snitches? Aren't they usually civilians?

And most of oppression has been seen through gruesome violent acts

I'm not going to answer the last part because it was a closing and its not like I said so we need to find ways to get rid of it.

 

[Spartacus FPV]

why not? I know as a black man I have never been asked if I listen to slip knot or green day who happen to be the only rck and roll names I can think of.

Forgive me, I was talking in semantics. I dont think Afro-Americans are a "race." Negroids yes, blacks for the sake of politically correctness. Your point is right, it was the way you said it that I disagreed with. There are 3 races, negroids, mongoloids and caucazoids.

When I ask if its a detriment you say no. But do you think that hip hop has had no negative influences in our community? Even as someone who does listen to hip-hop I know this is very untrue

And I dont listen to hip-hop?

I think "gangsta rap" and maybe some of the more hardcore genre can have negative influences are weak minded people who are easily influenced. But not in any measurable way.

And it never supports violence against civilians. Well what about snitches? Aren't they usually civilians?

A snitch is an informant, and no longer a civilian. Not that violence against informants is justified.

And most of oppression has been seen through gruesome violent acts

Violence is implied in the use of the word oppression, by statement was that hip-hop is not an answer to violence, only to some forms of oppression.

 

[Gardener]

Does Hip-Hop define the African-American Race?

Should it?

Is it a detriment to our society?

Does it support violence?

Is it an answer to violence and oppression?

Who knows? One thing is for sure-It doesn't seem to be going away so.

I'd rather listen to Burning Spear or Sly and Robbie or T.V. on the Radio or Cecil Taylor or Charles Mingus or Sun Ra, or Desmond Dekker or George Clinton, myself.

Missy Elliot is o,k. I guess, but I just don't know that much about Hip Hop to provide an informed opinion. I listened to the Last Poets a little bit way back when, but that was before the whole rap movement.


What are your opinions on the subject, though?

 

[el_joven]

My only problem with hip hop is that it is defining the black community. So when a rapper says "I smack a ho" it contributes to the image of blacks to the rest of america. It is at such a point that if a black man/woman does not embody hip-hop he/she is acting white. Even worse, acting white seen as acting intelligent and civil. So the analogy created by these concepts is:

white is to intelligence and civility as black is to ignorance and incivility

I am not claiming that hip-hop is in any way a bad thing or that this analogy is true or that it should be defining the black community.

 

[americanwoman]

Does Hip-Hop define the African-American Race?

I should hope not.

Should it?

NO way! Real people don't act like that, even those rappers. It's all an image, a character they play. I may be biased since I mostly listen to hip hop but you can't actually think those guys/girls act like that in real life. I'm sure a couple do but they are probably the exception.

It is at such a point that if a black man/woman does not embody hip-hop he/she is acting white.

Yeah people shouldn't stereotype anyone or say just cause they don't listen to hip hop they ain't keepin it real.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

el_joven,

It is at such a point that if a black man/woman does not embody hip-hop he/she is acting white.

Unfortunately, you are right. Day in day out this is the really of the situation.

 

[Ivan The Terrible]

americanwoman,

Quote:
Originally Posted by el_joven
Does Hip-Hop define the African-American Race?


I should hope not.

It dose to a degree.

NO way! Real people don't act like that, even those rappers. It's all an image, a character they play. I may be biased since I mostly listen to hip hop but you can't actually think those guys/girls act like that in real life. I'm sure a couple do but they are probably the exception.

You'd be surprised just how many it does. Sucks but it's the truth.

 

[Captain America]

I am not so sure that the music is the reason behind the violence or if the vilolent hip-hop culture is the reason behind the music.

One thing for sure, hip-hop as well as other acts that attract our African American youth (as well as a surprising number of our white youth) are becoming less and less marketable due to the enevitable violence that follows by thier crowds.

Here in my area, the "World's Biggest Gig" aka Summerfest, quit hiring hip-hop and some R&B acts due to the violent people they attract. It was scaring off the more law abiding people. Now they are catching hell for it and being called "racist." Myself, I call it prudent.