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Stinger

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"Shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . criminal . . . dangerous . . . satanic . . . the ultimate self-serving politician”

Is how she is described by recent polls. Should she just give up any hope of a national office?
 
Yep, the right wing echo chamber has influence. It has worked on you, I see. Let's talk about her stance on issues. Then we'll be discussing something relevant.
 
Stinger said:
Is how she is described by recent polls. Should she just give up any hope of a national office?

I would say...shes doing pretty well actually. At least in the eyes of actual Polls...you know, the kind where they ask people what they think:

"Hillary Meter
44% Have Favorable Opinion of Senator Hillary Clinton
July 26, 2006

Today’s Hillary Meter places Senator Clinton a net 52 points to the left of the nation's political center. Two weeks ago, she was 51 points to the left of center. Just 42% now label her politically liberal, possibly showing modest progress to the right. Only once in the last two years have a smaller number of people considered her politically liberal. However, there may be less of a shift than meets the eye—over the past seven Hillary Meter surveys, the former first lady has been seen as liberal by an average reading of 44%. Twice, she has been seen as liberal by a slightly smaller number, once by a slightly larger number. (see trends)

Meanwhile, only 7% currently find New York’s junior Senator to be politically conservative.

The political center is calculated by subtracting the number of liberals from the number of conservatives among the general public (35% conservative, 18% liberal for a net +17). For the Senator, 7% conservative minus 42% liberal equals a net minus 35. The minus 35 reading for Senator Clinton is 52 points away from the plus 17 reading for the general public.

Our current survey reveals that 44% have a favorable opinion of Clinton and 39% have an unfavorable opinion. Those numbers are reversed from two weeks ago when, 39% had a favorable opinion and 45% held the opposite view.

Thirty-four percent (34%) of voters said they would definitely vote against the Senator if she were the democratic nominee in 2008. Twenty-nine percent (29%), however, claim they would vote for her, down three points from two weeks ago.

Finally, 60% say it is likely Hillary will be the Democratic candidate in the next Presidential election. Twenty percent (20%) believe it is not very likely she will be the candidate, while 10% feel it is not at all likely.

The Hillary Meter is a twice monthly measure of Senator Hillary Clinton's effort to move to the political center. The next update is scheduled for Wednesday, August 9, 2006. For as long as the former First Lady is a viable candidate for the White House, Rasmussen Reports will monitor public perceptions of her political ideology."


Personally....I still think shes a bitch though, but then I can....shes My freakin' Rep.
 
I think some quotes of the aforementioned adjectives describing Hilary would be good right about now.
 
Stinger said:
"Shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . criminal . . . dangerous . . . satanic . . . the ultimate self-serving politician”

Is how she is described by recent polls. Should she just give up any hope of a national office?

YES! As a dem, I would NOT vote for her. Ewwwwwwwwwww
 
niftydrifty said:
Yep, the right wing echo chamber has influence. It has worked on you, I see. Let's talk about her stance on issues. Then we'll be discussing something relevant.


Those are from a poll of JUST DEMOCRATS.
 
tecoyah said:
I would say...shes doing pretty well actually. At least in the eyes of actual Polls...you know, the kind where they ask people what they think:

Ahhh that was an actual poll where they asked people what they think. And a poll of just Democrats.

" "I was amazed,” said Dick Bennett, head of American Research Group Inc., an independent polling company based in New Hampshire that conducted the survey of more than 400 likely voters in the 2008 Democratic primary."
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/8/8/100605.shtml

Thirty-four percent (34%) of voters said they would definitely vote against the Senator if she were the democratic nominee in 2008. Twenty-nine percent (29%), however, claim they would vote for her, down three points from two weeks ago.

That's doing pretty well?

" "Forty-five percent of the Democrats are just as negative about her as Republicans are.”

Bennett said he has never before seen so many New Hampshire voters show so much distaste for a member of their own party."
 
niftydrifty said:
Yep, the right wing echo chamber has influence. It has worked on you, I see. Let's talk about her stance on issues. Then we'll be discussing something relevant.
The far left wing of the Democratic party hate her as much, if not more, than the right wingers do.

Polls show both McCain and Giuliani easily beating Hillary in a general election.
 
Gill said:
The far left wing of the Democratic party hate her as much, if not more, than the right wingers do.

Polls show both McCain and Giuliani easily beating Hillary in a general election.

I think either one would do better as a pres than her. Personally I would like to see a stronger leader than McCain in office, and I'm not exactly thrilled about Giuliani either but hey, he's not that bad I guess.
 
What exactly has Hillary done to inspire all this hate?

Other then her belief that we cannot immediately pull out of Iraq, what has she done to warrant such hate?

You people who criticize her have nothing on her...absolutely nothing.

If you have some info, on why she should not be trusted, then post it. And spare me the hearsay...proof would be refreshing, other then conjecture.

Most of you just jump on the hate Hillary bandwagon without a shred of evidence to back up your disdain.

You're all fools if you underestimate this woman. Let's face it, if an idiot like Bush can gain office, then anyone can be president.

As far as a "national" office...Hillary holds a position of U.S. senator...I think that qualifies as a national office.
 
Hoot said:
What exactly has Hillary done to inspire all this hate?

Oh just her entire career (if you want to call it a career)


If you have some info, on why she should not be trusted, then post it.

Cattle futures, billing records, FBI files, Whitewater, Castle Grande, GRWC


Most of you just jump on the hate Hillary bandwagon without a shred of evidence to back up your disdain.

No most of us who don't like her preciesly because of her history.

And just as a reminder these were all comments from DEMOCRATS

"Shrew . . . Machiavellian . . . evil, power-mad witch . . . criminal . . . dangerous . . . satanic . . . the ultimate self-serving politician”

You're all fools if you underestimate this woman.

You're a fool to believe we underestimate her, politically that is.

Let's face it, if an idiot like Bush can gain office, then anyone can be president.

And your proof Hillary is smarter?

As far as a "national" office...Hillary holds a position of U.S. senator...I think that qualifies as a national office.

Did she win a national election?
 
Its safe to say that the majority of hate expressed towards Hilary Clinton by people on these boards is motivated by their unrelenting hatred of Bill Clinton. These people can't and never will give up. These are the people who can't engage in a debate without making comparisons to Bill Clinton or blaming everything on Bill Clinton. They use Bill Clinton as a crutch to explain their president's failures.

Watch and see. They will respond and you will see who these people are if you don't already.

When pressed as to why they don't like Hillary, they really have no answer.

There are a lot of other people who would not support Hillary because they disagree with her stand on issues. But those that try to label Hillary as "liberal" have absolutely no understanding of her stand on the issues of what a "liberal" is.

I have issues with Hillary because I am a liberal and she is way too far to the right on many issues for me.

The thing to think about when people say Hillary and other moderate Democrats are far-left is to understand that these are usually the right-wing extremists who have stolen the GOP and pushed it so far to the right that even Moderate Republicans to them are "liberal".
 
disneydude said:
Its safe to say that the majority of hate expressed towards Hilary Clinton by people on these boards is motivated by their unrelenting hatred of Bill Clinton.

Nope she gets it all on her own.

These people can't and never will give up.

Is she still a public figure, does she still try to influence things? Why should we lay down?

These are the people who can't engage in a debate

What do you call this.

The fact is those who defend her can't do it without all the hyperbole and nonsense such as you are posting.

When pressed as to why they don't like Hillary, they really have no answer.

I posted a laundery list and the comments from the polling are from DEMOCRATS.

There are a lot of other people who would not support Hillary because they disagree with her stand on issues.

And alot because she is a lying corrupt politican who can't be trusted. Now let's see if you can respond without bringing your hatred of Bush into it.

But those that try to label Hillary as "liberal" have absolutely no understanding of her stand on the issues of what a "liberal" is.

Sure we do, but then Hillary has no principles and will take the position that best suits her ambition.


The thing to think about when people say Hillary and other moderate Democrats are far-left is to understand that these are usually the right-wing extremists who have stolen the GOP and pushed it so far to the right that even Moderate Republicans to them are "liberal".

:rofl no more than the left-wing extremist have stolen the Democrat party.

I do not the lack of substance in your posting though.
 
The "Ice Princess" Hillary negatives are higher then her positives.that is almost unheard of.......Still I hope she gets the nomination..........
 
Stinger said:
Oh just her entire career (if you want to call it a career)
Cattle futures, billing records, FBI files, Whitewater, Castle Grande, GRWC

My dear Stinger, the only reason you have to hate Hillary is your own bias and political mumbo jumbo.

Cattle Futures? So, Hillary made money back in the 70's? I'm sure you know, despite investigations, no evidence of fraudulent trades has ever been found. So...you have nothing.

Billing records? A white house aid, Huber, testified she moved the files, not knowing what they were...and these were copies of the originals...again, despite intense investigation..no criminal charges. You have nothing, but your own irrational hatred.

FBI files? Case closed. Hillary cleared of involvement.

You have zilch, nada, zero reasons to hate Hillary, except that she's a democrat, and that's all the reason you'll ever need to hate someone.

Stinger said:
No most of us who don't like her preciesly because of her history.

No, you don't like her because of the narrow minded pablum spoon fed to you over the years by people like Limbaugh. There is no real rational thought to your dislike of Hillary. No proof of wrongdoing, simply conjecture and innuendo...but that's more then enough for you to hate a Dem, isn't it?


Stinger said:
You're a fool to believe we underestimate her, politically that is.

Well, at least you're right about this...anyone who underestimates this woman is a fool...however, I don't expect her to run for the White House. You'd have to be a fool to want to clean up after Bush.


Stinger said:
And your proof Hillary is smarter?

Why don't you give me a tough question? LOL

Bush was an average student..highest grade ever, an 88 in antropology. ( For some reason, Bush was fascinated with monkey faces? Don't ask me?)

Hillary..valedictorian, graduated with honors...I could go on, but that's sufficient, I think?
 
Hoot said:
My dear Stinger, the only reason you have to hate Hillary is your own bias and political mumbo jumbo.

Cattle Futures? So, Hillary made money back in the 70's? I'm sure you know, despite investigations, no evidence of fraudulent trades has ever been found. So...you have nothing.

Billing records? A white house aid, Huber, testified she moved the files, not knowing what they were...and these were copies of the originals...again, despite intense investigation..no criminal charges. You have nothing, but your own irrational hatred.

FBI files? Case closed. Hillary cleared of involvement.

You have zilch, nada, zero reasons to hate Hillary, except that she's a democrat, and that's all the reason you'll ever need to hate someone.



No, you don't like her because of the narrow minded pablum spoon fed to you over the years by people like Limbaugh. There is no real rational thought to your dislike of Hillary. No proof of wrongdoing, simply conjecture and innuendo...but that's more then enough for you to hate a Dem, isn't it?




Well, at least you're right about this...anyone who underestimates this woman is a fool...however, I don't expect her to run for the White House. You'd have to be a fool to want to clean up after Bush.




Why don't you give me a tough question? LOL

Bush was an average student..highest grade ever, an 88 in antropology. ( For some reason, Bush was fascinated with monkey faces? Don't ask me?)

Hillary..valedictorian, graduated with honors...I could go on, but that's sufficient, I think?[/
QUOTE]

Yeah but he had a higher GPA then your boy Kerry..

That is when she was a Republican......
 
Originally posted by Navy Pride:
My dear Stinger, the only reason you have to hate Hillary is your own bias and political mumbo jumbo.
My dearest Pride, when did you start defending lesbians?
 
Hoot said:
My dear Stinger, the only reason you have to hate Hillary is your own bias and political mumbo jumbo.

And my dear Hoot the only way you seem to be able to defend her is with such hyperbole. I have clearly stated my reason for my dislike of Mrs. Clinton, I have known of her since she was the governor wife as I lived in LA at the time and taveled weekly throughout AR back then. So my opinions for her are well grounded.

Cattle Futures? So, Hillary made money back in the 70's?

Hillary? Where is your evidence SHE made the money and not someone else? She benifited from an illegat straddle. SHE had nothing to do with it.

I'm sure you know, despite investigations, no evidence of fraudulent trades has ever been found. So...you have nothing.

No there was plently of evidence and a matter of common sense.

Billing records? A white house aid, Huber, testified she moved the files, not knowing what they were.

OK, but why were they there in the first place? Reconcile the fact that Hillary testified she had no knowledge of them, Huber packed them while they were in Hillary's office and under supena, when they had her finger prints and notations on them. They were under supean, Hillary knew they were there and failed to find them and turn them over.

"The Senate Whitewater Committee concluded that Hillary Clinton was the person most likely to have put the billing records in her book room, or know how they got there. The Independent Counsel continues to investigate Ms. Clinton's involvement in handling the records."

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/recs.html


..and these were copies of the originals...

So what? They were under supena. And they were the property of the Government, she had no business with them anyway.

again, despite intense investigation..no criminal charges.

They have always been very very good at insulating themselves and covering their tracks, but the weight of the evidence is clear, she lied to federal prosecutors and the records and what they proved. Ray was very clear in his final report, Hillary was exonerated of NOTHING, he simply did not believe that it was in the best interest of the government nor the judial system to go to court. The Clintons were masters of obstruction and getting people to take the fall for them and not testifying or testitfying truthfully. THAT's the kind of people they are, THAT's the kind of politics they grew up in.

FBI files? Case closed. Hillary cleared of involvement.

And if you believe Livingston was able to get those records on his own, and that Hillary didn't have anything to do with it I got a bridge for you. And even after we found out the Clinton administration was in pocession, illegal pocession of raw data FBI files they didn't want to turn them back over.

You have zilch, nada, zero reasons to hate Hillary,

Well your certainly in no position to tell me that.

except that she's a democrat, and that's all the reason you'll ever need to hate someone.

Do you have anything beyond the NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH NAH !



No, you don't like her because of the narrow minded pablum spoon fed to you over the years by people like Limbaugh.

Oh I see, you have this all figured out don't you.

There is no real rational thought to your dislike of Hillary. No proof of wrongdoing, simply conjecture and innuendo...but that's more then enough for you to hate a Dem, isn't it?

And who has the blinders on here?


Hillary..valedictorian, graduated with honors...I could go on, but that's sufficient, I think?

So give me some of the great accomplishments in her life after she got out of school. Give me some examples of her leadership. A great task she accomplished.

What are the top 3 bills she has authored and submitted and gotten passed? Not that she just signed on to but came up with.
 
Billo_Really said:
My dearest Pride, when did you start defending lesbians?


Billo although I don't have anything against lesbians Hillary is another matter and I did not post that.Hoot did........
 
Stinger...you haven't refuted a single item from my last post.

If you believe there's so much concrete evidence against Hllary, then take her to court as a U.S. citizen, and let's see how far you get? LOL!

Oh..I get it..."It wouldn't be in the best interest of government" to go after Hillary. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all morning.

Maybe you don't like Hillary because she was the wife of a man you hated? Maybe you don't like Hillary because she forgave her husband for what you believe are purely political reasons, and not love?

What I'm saying to you is, your hatred of Hillary is not based on fact, logic, or evidence, but merely your disdain for anything and everything democratic.
 
Hoot said:
Stinger...you haven't refuted a single item from my last post.

There was nothing to refute.

How about this. Explain how you think Hillary turned her $1000 investment into $100,000 in the cattle futures market? She knew nothing about trading commodities or cattle. She at first said she didn't do the trades so she didn't know any of the details then, when told that would have been illegal, changed her story and said she did manage the account and the trades. How'd she do it? Clearly it was a straddle.

If you believe there's so much concrete evidence against Hllary, then take her to court as a U.S. citizen, and let's see how far you get? LOL!

I don't have to I'm not a prosecutor, but that doesn't prevent me from discussing it. Is that the best defense of her you have?

OK if you think there is so much concete evidence against Bush then YOU take him to court else shut up about him? Fair enough?

Oh..I get it..."It wouldn't be in the best interest of government" to go after Hillary. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all morning.

Actually they did a good job of getting people to shut up and refuse to cooperate. They were masterful. Read Ray's final report with is a stinging expose of how involved Hillary was in all the matters. He choose not to prosecute because they were able to obstruct his investigation and he felt with them out of office it wasn't in the interest of the country to continue it.

Maybe you don't like Hillary because she was the wife of a man you hated?

May you don't know what you are talking about and maybe your defense of her actions is so weak you have to try this tacitc. Stick to the facts of the issue, it's not about me.

What I'm saying to you is.......

Is a bunch of hyperbole since you can't really defend her. Just look at what the Democrats think of her as I posted in the OP.
 
Hoot said:
Stinger...you haven't refuted a single item from my last post.

If you believe there's so much concrete evidence against Hllary, then take her to court as a U.S. citizen, and let's see how far you get? LOL!

Oh..I get it..."It wouldn't be in the best interest of government" to go after Hillary. Thanks for the best laugh I've had all morning.

Maybe you don't like Hillary because she was the wife of a man you hated? Maybe you don't like Hillary because she forgave her husband for what you believe are purely political reasons, and not love?

What I'm saying to you is, your hatred of Hillary is not based on fact, logic, or evidence, but merely your disdain for anything and everything democratic.

Its really amazing how you liberals can defend the Clintons considering all the accusations of corruptions and infidelity that have been levied at them........They can get away with anything and when they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar you continue to defend them.....It boggles one mind how you can give such low life a pass.........Even a lot of democrats have a very low opinion on Hillary.......
 
It seems I'm the only one sticking to the facts of the issue.

You have nothing on Hillary but conjecture and innuendo.

But that's more than enough for some of you.
 
Lamonts victory is bad news for Hillary. That's why Bill was stumping for Joe.

As the country gets more and more fed up with the Iraq occupation the country is going to look for a Presidential candidate with an exit strategy.

The best thing Bush could do for the GOP before 2008 is to bring the troops home.

I personally won't support any candidate that doesn't favor a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. Period.
 
hipsterdufus said:
As the country gets more and more fed up with the Iraq occupation the country is going to look for a Presidential candidate with an exit strategy.

And the exit strategy being offered by the Democrats is specifically what?
The best thing Bush could do for the GOP before 2008 is to bring the troops home.

Convince me that if we could he wouldn't.

I personally won't support any candidate that doesn't favor a withdrawal of American troops from Iraq. Period.

Under any circumstances, cut and run?
 

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