Hey conservatives. Make our day. Shut down the government. [W:52]

[yobarnacle]

Some day soon the government WILL get defunded. Permanently. It's spending us into bankruptcy.
I'm hoping not this year or next.
I have JUST a few more preparations to make, to insure MY family will survive.
Getting to be quite a few of them.
8 grandkids and more coming.

 

[Velvet Elvis]

You can;'t tell me shutting down the government was good for the GOP.

I never said it was "good for the GOP." I implied that shutting down the government is merely a ploy for stupid people to fall for the "oh my god, it's total anarchy" thing. It's been shut down numerous times. Every one of those times, nothing happened.

You are a mean redneck but for the most part you are not stupid.

I'm as much a redneck as you are an insightful poster.

Oh by the way Pink Floyd,Yes and the Beatles where light years better that Elvis. Elvis was a good singer.

Seriously? Is that supposed to be a dig? Are you trying to hurt my feelings or something?

 

[Oftencold]

Actually, it's been my impression that every time this happens, more people discover that life isn't generally dependent upon government action. Washington more or less shuts down, and by some inexplicable mechanism, the sun still rises

 

[fmw]

So every time we have this fight the conservatives look bad. Shutting down the government is a lose lose situation for conservatives and the level heads in the party have already warned against it. The far right element in the party is screaming to shut down the government to defund Obamacare but old people not getting their social security checks along with the military,the unemployed and anybody else who gets a check from the government. This always makes the conservatives look like the goons they are so quoting the great right winger Clint Eastwood "Make our day"

At last, we agree on something. Shutting down the government for a while would not only save a lot of money. It might show people how much government they really need.

 

[fmw]

I deplored BOTH Bush presidents. So did other patriots.

I think republicans AND democrats are big government, big spenders, and constitution trashers.

You think? You don't know beyond a shadow of a doubt?

 

[fmw]

The GOP should absolutely NOT defund Obamacare. They should insist it go forward just as the democrats pass it. Once the mindless minions that support it get hit with their bill for forced healthcare and businesses continue their layoffs or transfers to part time schedules for their employees, people will be forced to see it for the **** sandwich the democrats fed them.

Bad idea. The dems are just planning to use the failure of Obamacare to replace it with completely socialized medicine. They need to stop it now.

 

[Henrin]

The GOP should absolutely NOT defund Obamacare. They should insist it go forward just as the democrats pass it. Once the mindless minions that support it get hit with their bill for forced healthcare and businesses continue their layoffs or transfers to part time schedules for their employees, people will be forced to see it for the **** sandwich the democrats fed them.

The plan all along for Obamacare was to have it fail and make healthcare more expensive to raise support for a single payer system. When Reid came out and admitted this was the plan not that long ago many liberals that post here had no problem with it and showed how they're willing to do anything at any cost to get a single payer system. We can not allow them to get what they desire.

 

[ttwtt78640]

The GOP should absolutely NOT defund Obamacare. They should insist it go forward just as the democrats pass it. Once the mindless minions that support it get hit with their bill for forced healthcare and businesses continue their layoffs or transfers to part time schedules for their employees, people will be forced to see it for the **** sandwich the democrats fed them.

The demorats, aided by the MSM, will then simply convince the sheeple that they will "fix" it (if only you will first get those pesky republicants out of the way). Once a gov't program (or federal power) is established it will never go away - it will simply evolve into something even bigger.

 

[yobarnacle]

I'm hoping someone OTHER than a democrat is elected president 2016. happy if it's not a republican either.
After Mr Obama leaves office, impeachment isn't necessary. He could be charged for illegal and unconstitutional acts committed while he was president. Arraigned in federal court, and brought to trial with a jury of his peers. Or sued in civil court. a class action by the American populace! If Bush is still around, charge him too!

But it needs a non-partisan president in office who wouldn't pardon, or instruct justice department to ignore and not prosecute.

We need to send a message to future presidents, they are NOT above the law. And WILL be held accountable for their excesses!

Some of the power grabs.
Presidential Gun Ban: Executive Power or Unconstitutional Power Grab | Congressman Paul Gosar

 

[Harshaw]

It cost them the senate in 98 and the Whitehouse in 96.

The Senate balance was completely unchanged in 1998.

It allowed the dem's to take back the house and Clinton to have a second term.

The Dems didn't retake the House until 2006, and in 1996, the Repubs gained in the Senate.

 

[VanceMack]

Hey conservatives. Make our day. Shut down the government.

Bad idea. The dems are just planning to use the failure of Obamacare to replace it with completely socialized medicine. They need to stop it now.

You can't stop it. We aren't cursed by two inept political parties. We are cursed by two inept parties and a handout nation. Socialized medicine is coming. We are at 17 trillion and counting. That will make I worse. There's a whole lot of Detroits in our future.

 

[Conservative]

So every time we have this fight the conservatives look bad. Shutting down the government is a lose lose situation for conservatives and the level heads in the party have already warned against it. The far right element in the party is screaming to shut down the government to defund Obamacare but old people not getting their social security checks along with the military,the unemployed and anybody else who gets a check from the government. This always makes the conservatives look like the goons they are so quoting the great right winger Clint Eastwood "Make our day"

Another civics challenged liberal, the Congress doesn't shut down the govt. the President does by not signing spending legislation. please take a civics class and stop showing your partisan liberal ignorance.

You really think SS and Medicare are going to lose funding? If so there is no one to blame but the Democrats who put those programs on budget and then spent the money on other programs. SS and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes not income or excise taxes thus any govt. shutdown should have no effect on Medicare or SS recipients

 

[VanceMack]

The plan all along for Obamacare was to have it fail and make healthcare more expensive to raise support for a single payer system. When Reid came out and admitted this was the plan not that long ago many liberals that post here had no problem with it and showed how they're willing to do anything at any cost to get a single payer system. We can not allow them to get what they desire.

Ive got bad news for you...you cant stop it. You just...cant. Its not just an inept GOP but its an ever growing dependent class clamoring for more more more without regard to who will pay for it. Detroit is the model. Theres lots more coming soon.

 

[yobarnacle]

I believe those in power, democrats and republicans both, are deliberately over spending, so deliberately printing new money, so deliberately devaluing the currency, so deliberately stealing citizens dollars without raising taxes, so REDUCING the 'value" of the debt owed, and benefits paid out.

Borrow dollars to spend and pay back with naira (Nigerian money with almost no value). Devalued dollars ending up the equivalent of naira.

 

[CalGun]

They'd have to shut it down about a 100 days to make a difference. It's about that point we'd break even and not have a year in deficit. I'm all for it. Shut it down, keep it shut, and do so until the socialist capitulate to meaningful changes including the complete elimination of obamafarce.

 

[James D Hill]

Another civics challenged liberal, the Congress doesn't shut down the govt. the President does by not signing spending legislation. please take a civics class and stop showing your partisan liberal ignorance.

You really think SS and Medicare are going to lose funding? If so there is no one to blame but the Democrats who put those programs on budget and then spent the money on other programs. SS and Medicare are funded by payroll taxes not income or excise taxes thus any govt. shutdown should have no effect on Medicare or SS recipients

Did or did not the GOP take a beating when they shut down the government in the 90,s? They have looked like **** everytime they have tried it since. They always end up looking like a bunch of selfish tightwads who care more about saving a dime than real people. Is this the truth or just the picture the media paints? I don't know but you know that is what is going to happen.

 

[James D Hill]

The Senate balance was completely unchanged in 1998.




The Dems didn't retake the House until 2006, and in 1996, the Repubs gained in the Senate.

Did Bill clinton get re-elected?

 

[Conservative]

Did or did not the GOP take a beating when they shut down the government in the 90,s? They have looked like **** everytime they have tried it since. They always end up looking like a bunch of selfish tightwads who care more about saving a dime than real people. Is this the truth or just the picture the media paints? I don't know but you know that is what is going to happen.

You don't get it and just show typical partisan BS by buying the media spin. Congress does not shut down the Govt. for it is the President that does that. Liberals will always get the votes of the poorly informed like you

 

[James D Hill]

You don't get it and just show typical partisan BS by buying the media spin. Congress does not shut down the Govt. for it is the President that does that. Liberals will always get the votes of the poorly informed like you

Who cares what the truth is? The truth is what the media spins it and you know it. Do you really think they would take the side of the GOP other than FOX? Be real. You know as well as I do the right will lose that fight every time.

 

[Conservative]

Who cares what the truth is? The truth is what the media spins it and you know it. Do you really think they would take the side of the GOP other than FOX? Be real. You know as well as I do the right will lose that fight every time.

You are right, the truth doesn't matter to far too many and unfortunately most of them are Democrats today. I grew up a Democrat and a liberal but outgrew both. Some people who only think with their heart and buy the rhetoric will never grow up and will always ignore results. No thinking person today could be happy with the Obama results but results don't matter to people like you.

 

[James D Hill]

You are right, the truth doesn't matter to far too many and unfortunately most of them are Democrats today. I grew up a Democrat and a liberal but outgrew both. Some people who only think with their heart and buy the rhetoric will never grow up and will always ignore results. No thinking person today could be happy with the Obama results but results don't matter to people like you.

Funny. I grew up in a right wing household. I voted for Rat Master Ronnie in 1980. I was however a pot smoker and Reagans disregard for personal freedom on that issue turned me. I was a member of a union and read lots of union newspapers and memo's. They hated Reagan. I was a full blow left winger by 1982 and have been one since. When the GOP gave up on personal freedom and our right to privacy I left them forever. Now it is clear to me the right wing hates entitlements and the saftey net and want to return us to before 1932 when there was not saftety net. This crap of calling people lazy and takers when the very system of capitalism has turned against them makes me sick. You know as well as I do Romney's 47% comment sealed his fate and helped him lose an election he should have won. The GOP has to start being for the people and not the fat cats and Jesus freaks any more.

 

[Conservative]

Funny. I grew up in a right wing household. I voted for Rat Master Ronnie in 1980. I was however a pot smoker and Reagans disregard for personal freedom on that issue turned me. I was a member of a union and read lots of union newspapers and memo's. They hated Reagan. I was a full blow left winger by 1982 and have been one since. When the GOP gave up on personal freedom and our right to privacy I left them forever. Now it is clear to me the right wing hates entitlements and the saftey net and want to return us to before 1932 when there was not saftety net. This crap of calling people lazy and takers when the very system of capitalism has turned against them makes me sick. You know as well as I do Romney's 47% comment sealed his fate and helped him lose an election he should have won. The GOP has to start being for the people and not the fat cats and Jesus freaks any more.

You are a poster boy for what pot can do to the brain, keep it up as I feel bad for people like you. So much hatred for religion and anything else that you don't agree with. Freedom without laws and discipline lead to chaos.

 

[jonny5]

So every time we have this fight the conservatives look bad. Shutting down the government is a lose lose situation for conservatives and the level heads in the party have already warned against it. The far right element in the party is screaming to shut down the government to defund Obamacare but old people not getting their social security checks along with the military,the unemployed and anybody else who gets a check from the government. This always makes the conservatives look like the goons they are so quoting the great right winger Clint Eastwood "Make our day"

Im willing to risk it. Lets do it.

 

[James D Hill]

Im willing to risk it. Lets do it.

And get your butt's kicked again. The press is going to have a field day and the right will look like morons once again. Other than that there is no risk.

 

[James D Hill]

You are a poster boy for what pot can do to the brain, keep it up as I feel bad for people like you. So much hatred for religion and anything else that you don't agree with. Freedom without laws and discipline lead to chaos.

You are the poster boy for what right wing moronism can do for your brain. How does it feel to be in a party that is so regressive and reactionary they are trying to take us back to the Hoover years? How does it feel to be in the party that is 90% old white guys and Jesus freak females? Your side is shrinking every day and your side can't seem to make the morons shut their mouths so you can't even hide the fact the GOP is a party of backward thinking stick in the mudd's. Good luck next election.