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Hey, Californians: What the heck is going on out there?

Snickers are better than a three muskateers bar but neither one refutes the FACT that they developed immunity without masks, blowing any theories out of the water that makes work.

i can understand why the left wants to cover up the story.

Story has been covered. They achieved worse results than their neighbors for virtually no economic gain.
 
Please cite the percentages and your sources. Lets just check that science.
I did. Click on the links in my post...again, willful ignorance. Pretending like things aren't there.
 
You keep saying the science is flawed, but it isn't. It is perfectly valid. You simply choose to be willfully ignorant, because your identity of self depends on rejecting the reality of climate change.

Same group of people who predicted global cooling. Always right no matter what they say. Like the priests and bishops of days gone by.
 
Story has been covered. They achieved worse results than their neighbors for virtually no economic gain.

Still achieved immunity without masks.

You see, 2 = 2 will ALWAYS = 4 no matter how a socialist tries to say it doesn't. No masks = immunity.
 
Still achieved immunity without masks.

You see, 2 = 2 will ALWAYS = 4 no matter how a socialist tries to say it doesn't. No masks = immunity.

I think you are saying 2 + 2 will always equal 4, and it won't if your fact deniers have their say.
 
Same group of people who predicted global cooling. Always right no matter what they say. Like the priests and bishops of days gone by.

A good many posters ignore that science did predict global cooling.
 

Here we have the Goebbelsians saying"

Only a year or two after the pandemic, however, can experts fairly judge what was done correctly, the authors said.

Because they don't want to admit they were 100% WRONG. Again, Sweden has near zero deaths not wearing masks and the writer just can't stand that 2 = 2 will always = 4 and tries to say, "Ah, yes. But what abut next year? The article was written a month ago. Lemme look up the death rates in Sweden. Be right back...........

Well, well, well. Average daily deaths in April were over a hundred. Average deaths today = 2. Go figure, eh. 2 + 2 still equals FOUR. Whooda think. But let the Goebbelsians tell your pretty head that THIS, somehow is bad. that Sweden was bad. You go right ahead and believe the Joseph Goebbels of the world when the truth is staring you and all of you, right in the face. I find it disturbing this ignoring of truth by humans just so they can maintain their sanity,like ignoring that Biden has dementia out of hatred of Trump.
 
Here we have the Goebbelsians saying"



Because they don't want to admit they were 100% WRONG. Again, Sweden has near zero deaths not wearing masks and the writer just can't stand that 2 = 2 will always = 4 and tries to say, "Ah, yes. But what abut next year? The article was written a month ago. Lemme look up the death rates in Sweden. Be right back...........

Well, well, well. Average daily deaths in April were over a hundred. Average deaths today = 2. Go figure, eh. 2 + 2 still equals FOUR. Whooda think. But let the Goebbelsians tell your pretty head that THIS, somehow is bad. that Sweden was bad. You go right ahead and believe the Joseph Goebbels of the world when the truth is staring you and all of you, right in the face. I find it disturbing this ignoring of truth by humans just so they can maintain their sanity,like ignoring that Biden has dementia out of hatred of Trump.

Your response is as impotent as your president and contains less facts than one of his speeches.
 
Your response is as impotent as your president and contains less facts than one of his speeches.

You wear blinders and don't want t look at truth....which is that Sweden has just one or two deaths a day now. Like pretending Biden isn't senile, you pretend that those facts don't exist.
 
Your DNC wants to sacrifice others. You know, lie Pelosi getting a do while others can't because THEY are sacrificing for the COVID god.

My DNC? I am neither American nor a democrat. It is your country and with that obviously your DNC as well no matter how much you like The Trumpet. And you are attacking Pelosi on Covid? I know she made a mistake, but this bleaks in comparison to what The Trumpet has done. The word mistake would be an understatement...

Joey
 
My DNC? I am neither American nor a democrat. It is your country and with that obviously your DNC as well no matter how much you like The Trumpet. And you are attacking Pelosi on Covid? I know she made a mistake, but this bleaks in comparison to what The Trumpet has done. The word mistake would be an understatement...

Joey

Ever hear of Marie Antoinette?
 
You're calling climate change science a myth, and your proof is that during a few months when cities in one country simply didn't drive, this had no effect on anything and that's your big aha moment.

Im not going to take you seriously no matter how much you plead.

You seem to be unaware that travel and commerce around the world was impacted by the WORLDWIDE PANdemic.

Did the global aspects of this issue escape your eagle eye?

I find it interesting that I refer to the lack of science as mythology. You refer to mythology as science.

To help you to define your lack of understanding in this, please link to the Peer reviewed Scientific Hypothesis, including the test to falsify, that has been put forth regarding Anthropogenic Climate Change.

Hint: It doesn't exist.

Once again, me revealing that you know nothing is not pleading.
 
Oh, yes!

I personally doubt the United States of America will have its current configuration by the end of this century.



Have a nice new work week!

I appreciate the good wishes. However, I'm retired. It's a job that goes on 24-7. It's gruelling.

No time off ever. ;)
 
You seem to be unaware that travel and commerce around the world was impacted by the WORLDWIDE PANdemic.

Did the global aspects of this issue escape your eagle eye?

I find it interesting that I refer to the lack of science as mythology. You refer to mythology as science.

To help you to define your lack of understanding in this, please link to the Peer reviewed Scientific Hypothesis, including the test to falsify, that has been put forth regarding Anthropogenic Climate Change.

Hint: It doesn't exist.

Once again, me revealing that you know nothing is not pleading.

The whole planet didn’t shut down for 8 months. That was us due to Trump’s decision to kill Americans with the plague. And it’s still a small sample size.

You have no idea about any of this. You just want to argue.
 
You must be on Trump defense autopilot. Where did I blame Trump?

From your post:

"But, if you love Trump and money, then why aren't you appreciating this?"
 
Good! Then maybe one you'll believe in other, more advanced belief systems proven through science.

What "belief system" are you trying to call forth with your beads and head dress?
 
This sacrificing is continuing to this day, too. Humans imagine that they are to blame because they don't understand nature and they figure that if they blame themselves, the problem will go away. This precisely what the extreme sacrifice financially is being called for. Like a virgin sacrifice, society as a whole is being called to sacrifice its way of life to placate the "gods" being climate. Just like volcanoes, humans didn't know how they worked but knew THEY made the volcano 'god' angry and they had to do something. No Monica will do. This has to be a BIG sacrifice and only a nubile young virgin will be enough for THIS catastrophe. Same thing with doing away with fossils fuels. NO expense is too much to placate "climate".

fast forward to the virus. and it's identical. Humans feel they can beat it with extreme measures to placate the "god" COVID. Shut down the economy. Throw away trillions into the belly of the beast called COVID. Force society to wear masks to show that we are serious.

We haven't really changed in 10,000 years Have we?

Obviously, no. We are what we are and we are what we were.

The high priests, whether they are the Climastrologists or the Social Justice Warriors site problems, connect them to unrelated events, call the events causes and then shriek that Change is needed.

In every example, the message is that we are Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God. The Climastrologists or the Social Justice Warriors alone, they warn, have the solution. Follow them or we're all DOOMED!

It is used so often and follows exactly the same steps every time that it is no longer surprising to watch the campaigns move forward.
 
Awesome! I thought we were in new territory, but apparently not. So how did billions of humans migrate out of flooded areas during the Holocene while not starving to death? We should look to them for clues. And, more broadly, when the Holocene re-drew the map of habitable land, how did a modern human society adapt? Also, given that the Holocene was just like now, how did ecosystems and species adapt to the sudden dramatic changes in nature triggered by massive human-caused climate change?

The last bit destroys the rest. You present a conclusion that is nothing more than an assumption based on the dogma of the faithful.

Those are all good questions and the answer is pretty obvious. Locally, entire populations were wiped out in some cases, and in others the populations adapted.

I'm not sure what you think you might be presenting with your snide and directionless ramble.

There was an ice age. Much of the ice melted when the Holocene dawned and the world changed. Awesomely powerful flooding and desertification occurred in various locales around the globe.

What is the point you are laboring to hide in your post?
 
What "belief system" are you trying to call forth with your beads and head dress?

Am I a black clad wearing bomb throwing america hater or a beads wearing woman who operates on universal feelings of nurturing? Which stereotype will you self-soothe with as you get your ass kicked in an exchange about science?

Your insults are as weak as your arguments and your knees.
 
Yes, again I mostly agree with you. But it does not reflect the whole story.

- We (humans) are adding significant amounts of CO2.
- The present RAPID increase is not cause by the permafrost melting, but by our release of CO2. And because of the warming that this causes, the permafrost melts and causes more CO2 to be released. Potentially causing a run away effect. Similar (but 180 degrees the other way..) to the run away freezing of the earth when it was completely covered in ice.
- The cycles from ice age to warm periods do cause CO2 to be released by permafrost. But events like volcanos (Very large eruption release CO2 and a lot of other stuff too..) and the consequent temperature changes obviously follow later. As a matter of fact, scientists had a lot of discussion about how the planet could possibly have gotten warm again when the entire planet was covered in ice. When the planet is covered in ice the whole planet is white and reflects too much light (heat) to allow the ice to ever melt. So there was something going on, because the ice has obviously melted. This eventual melt is attributed to Volcanos and the massive release of greenhouse gasses by these volcanos.

Having said that, I agree that I should have been a little bit more careful with the bolt statement that CO2 is always followed by temperature change and not the other way around. I will check this out in a little more detail and come back to you on this, but I gotta go to sleep now. Have to go to work in 5 hours mate.

Joey

In passing, I'm amazed that this device allows me to exchange thoughts with folks from around the world.

What caused "Snowball Earth"? I'm not satisfied with the idea that we just got cooler for no reason.

It seems more logical that there was some sort of massive and prolonged Milankovitch Type Orbital Event affecting our orbit OR a prolonged cooling period reducing the Sun's radiation to us.

Conversely, the END of "Snowball Earth" seems to be similar to the end of our repeating Ice Ages. there is no terrestrial event acting as the prime mover that ends an Ice Age. It is Orbital influences rising from the effects of other planets.

The Anthropogenic contribution to CO2 is pretty small as a percent, but the small contribution is said to "add up" thus changing the totals.

That said, though, the warming impact of CO2 is a diminishing factor in Climate Change. See the chart below. It's similar to many on the internet.

Regarding the warming impact of Volcanoes, in today's world, it doesn't exist. The particulates also spewed out diffuse the incoming Solar Radiation and negate the Greenhouse impact of the CO2.

By this measure alone, citing Volcanic eruptions as the prime mover to end Snowball Earth, seems to be counter intuitive. It fits well into the "CO2 is the prime Cause" thinking, but does not seem to be logical.

The soot from volcanoes may have settled on the snow and caused melting due to albedo. It's possible that had an impact.

As I often caution when I drift into scientific areas, though, NOT A SCIENTIST. However, I always ask this question: "If this is true, what else must.be true?"

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[FONT=&quot][/FONT][h=1]The diminishing effect of increasing CO2 concentrations on global temperature[/h]<snip>
 
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