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You didn't watch this one either.
2014, Obama and the West should have taken a tougher stance. He didn't. What does that have to do with Putin lying through his teeth about:Enjoy my thread from 2/26 - 'Ukraine is the Wests Fault': Mearsheimer Told Us So — In 2014
I'm a Mearsheimer fan. I've watched many of his lectures.
2014, Obama and the West should have taken a tougher stance. He didn't.
Your the guy pointing to a piece claiming that Ukraine is the west's fault and pointing to 2014. Answer your own question.Like what?
Your the guy pointing to a piece claiming that Ukraine is the west's fault and pointing to 2014. Answer your own question.
Putin is making a tactical move by moving his border to NATO instead of waiting for it to come to him.
Looks like he plans to fight
Here's a great video to watch from a policy expert. It's different from the other video.
Lot's of good points all throughout the video.
Which ones do you think were good?Here's a great video to watch from a policy expert. It's different from the other video.
Lot's of good points all throughout the video.
As I have said, the problem with Mearsheimer is that he has an axe to grind, and he announces it at the beginning of the video I viewed.
To that end, it is obvious that Putin and his world view, his deeply imbedded history as a KGB agent for a totalitarian system, his indoctrination on the nature of the west strongly distorts reality. The problem wasn't Yeltsin, Medvedev, Clinton, Bush, Obama, or Biden...it was and is Putin.
Consider, after Putin's invasion of Georgia,
his term expired, and Medvedev (2009 to Jan 2012) became President. And guess what, Obama and Medvedev had an era of cooperation. They signed and ratified a new START treaty, voted to support the most comprehensive set of sanctions against Iran, Obama convinced him to keep an American base open to supply routes to American military action in Afghanistan, got Russia in the WTO, and established far more liberal visa regime. And that era also included the re affirmation of the US, UK, and Russia memorandum persevering Ukraine's sovereignty in 2010. That doesn't sound like "Russia" who is deeply offended and driven to extremes because of NATO being an "existential threat" to Russia. (
Yet, when Putin regained the Presidency in 2012 it again fell apart. NATO was an extensional threat to his worldview, and he worked overtime promoting that delusion.
So I suggest you broaden your readings and note the shortcomings of your go to source. He's telling a highly cherry-picked story to advocate for an opinion he holds independent of scholarly deliberation.
Which ones do you think were good?
My bad. I thought this was a discussion forum. Didn't realize it was just a place to share video links.All of them. Enjoy the video, or not.
See -- this is where I feel the Russia Collusion Hoax Against Trump ties in. During his presidential campaign, Trump made some off-hand remarks about how NATO countries should pay their fair share, according to NATO's stipulated spending requirements. The moment he did that, I noticed a huge frenzy of angry activity from NATO supporters. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright under the Clinton Whitehouse, immediately showed upon TV the same evening, calling Trump "crazy" in a very alarmed voice. I knew right then that Trump had just painted a big bullseye on his back, and that he was going to come under an avalanche of hellish fury from the NATO lobby. Within days, there were suddenly accusations that Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort had worked for Russia (various Democrats had also done this, and plus he had also worked for Ukraine too.) Then quickly after that, there were allegations that Trump himself was in bed with Putin. The Russia Collusion Hoax then spun into high gear.
NATO has become a fountainhead for powerful lobbies practicing political corruption. Putin's invasion of Ukraine is now a godsend for them -- and they can once again move into high gear. It's boom times again.
Again I ask, where do you live? And I bet yoo have watched hi a lot because he says what you want to hear and not the truth.Enjoy my thread from 2/26 - 'Ukraine is the Wests Fault': Mearsheimer Told Us So — In 2014
I'm a Mearsheimer fan. I've watched many of his lectures.
This is what "Westplainers" like John Meirshmer get wrong:
"...by focusing almost exclusively on the wrongs of NATO, critics ignore the broader question of Eastern European states’ right to self-determination, including the right to join military alliances. Westsplaining ignores Eastern European history and the perspective of the Eastern Europeans, and it selectively omits facts on the ground about NATO expansion.
...NATO did not expand into “Eastern Europe.” Czechia, Poland, and Hungary in 1999 and the Baltic countries among others in 2004 actively sought membership in the alliance. This is not just semantics. For the historical reasons mentioned above, the West has been a desired political direction associated with prosperity, democracy, and freedom—despite the limitations of Western liberal capitalist democracies and the implementation of that model in Eastern Europe. Being at the receiving end of Russian imperialism, many Eastern Europeans looked forward to membership in NATO as a means of securing their sovereignty. NATO, in other words, would not have “expanded” into Eastern Europe if the Eastern European nations had not wanted it and actively pursued it.
...In the westsplaining framework, the concerns of Russia are recognized but those of Eastern Europe are not. This, again, mirrors the Russian line that “Ukraine’s current regime lacks any sovereignty,” which of course also operates within a framework inherited from the bipolar world of the Cold War. Eastern Europe is something that can be explained but isn’t worth engaging with....The result is that hard-nosed realists see the world not as it is but as it appears in their theories and, worse, that Western internationalism, which claims to stand in solidarity with the oppressed, does the opposite: It asks the subaltern to speak, only to ignore them when they ask for military support or self-determination."
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First, NTOA does not ask countries to join NATO, countries have to ask to be admitted. Are you saying that countries can not belong to any such organization if they wish to do so? Are you saying they first have to ask permission of Putin to do so, really? Second, the problem Putin has with NATO is not that he expects them to attack Russia, but he wants to reunite the countries that were the USSR and those same countries joined NATO to safeguard them from Putin and Russia. I would not be surprised to see more countries join NATO after seeing what has happened to Ukraine who had not joined NATO.
And he wants to reunite those nations that made up the USSR nd many have joined NATO to safeguard themselves from Putin. That is why Putin backed Trump's effort to end the NATO alliance or at least get the US out of the alliance. The Russian generals are really afraid of the US military as we have so many really experience fighters.Mearsheimer is wrong in his assumption that Putin sees NATO as a threat to Russia. It is not. What Putin sees as a threat, to him, not Russia, is democracy and freer markets.
Again I ask, where do you live? And I bet yoo have watched hi a lot because he says what you want to hear and not the truth.
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