Here is why a Trump Presidency Horrifies Historians

[Doppelgangirl]

Wait until Trump is the nominee, and see what he directs against Hillary. And Bill. I would be frightened if I were them. Ask low-energy Jeb or Little Marco how they fared under the Trump attack machine.

Franklin D. Roosevelt once said, "I ask you to judge me by the enemies I have made." Donald Trump is the enemy of both the GOP establishment and the Democratic Party, but for different reasons. It means not only that he is doing something right, but also that the left fears him – not because he will destroy the Republican Party, but because he will destroy the Democrats. Based on policy, the Democrats should embrace him, especially if he is a liberal Democrat, as the Powerline Blog asserts, but instead they fear him because he can and likely will defeat their true liberal candidate, Hillary Clinton.

Articles: Leftists don't hate Donald Trump. They are afraid of him.

i think this guy had it right months ago

hit piece after hit piece just rolls off him

and the polls continue to change in his favor

scary isnt it?

:agree


I had a very interesting discussion the other day re: the bolded.

It began over someone saying they couldn't understand why so many Bernie Sanders supporters would vote Trump. IMHO, it's because the one common thread in this entire election is that folks are simply fed up with the Establishment. On *both* sides of the aisle. Good or bad, Trump represents a complete departure from "business as usual," especially in a political context.

I also think that there are quite a few people that *would* prefer to vote Republican more often, but are so turned off by the antiquated social policies they represent that it's a deal breaker for them. Trump, for the most part, really doesn't give a flying fig about those social policies, and people see it. Some, I imagine, are so fed up with the status quo, they're willing to take a gamble.

The "change" may not be particularly *good*. But it is change.

Desperate times and all...

 

[Casper]

What seems to have been missed is not that they fear him because he may be a threat to the Democrats or because the "GOP Establishment" might lose out to him, but they fear him because of what he would do to the Nation. Trump is totally inexperienced and no one knows what he would do as President, his words are worthless since he changes them to fit the audience and there is no track record to go by. Trump is like some kid out of high school wanting to be given the CEO position of GE, and sadly some idiots think that would be a good idea, yeah nothing could go wrong there.

 

[Casper]

:agree


I had a very interesting discussion the other day re: the bolded.

It began over someone saying they couldn't understand why so many Bernie Sanders supporters would vote Trump. IMHO, it's because the one common thread in this entire election is that folks are simply fed up with the Establishment. On *both* sides of the aisle. Good or bad, Trump represents a complete departure from "business as usual," especially in a political context.

I also think that there are quite a few people that *would* prefer to vote Republican more often, but are so turned off by the antiquated social policies they represent that it's a deal breaker for them. Trump, for the most part, really doesn't give a flying fig about those social policies, and people see it. Some, I imagine, are so fed up with the status quo, they're willing to take a gamble.

The "change" may not be particularly *good*. But it is change.

Desperate times and all...

Nice thought but the truth is the GOP is a Conservative Party, if that is antiquated in some peoples opinion then they need to find a new more Liberal Party and they can have a Liberal as their leader, someone liberal like Trump.

 

[cpwill]

But you have your lies and innuendos?

No, I have the data.

That's too bad.

It is indeed. It ill-serves the students (who deserve to be exposed to an actual diversity of worldviews), and it ill-serves the other professors, who become duller by not having their own assumptions challenged.

 

[fmw]

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Approximating the undesirability of a Clinton presidency to the undesirability of a Trump presidency is a big mistake and a cop out. Hillary Clinton is a conventional politician, almost a centrist on policy, with vast experience. Very unlikely she would be a catastrophe in the White House. You can't say the same about Trump. Hear Ken Burns, David McCullough, et al:



Here's Why Donald Trump Is Horrifying, According To Historians

Historians are also partisans.

 

[Doppelgangirl]

Nice thought but the truth is the GOP is a Conservative Party, if that is antiquated in some peoples opinion then they need to find a new more Liberal Party and they can have a Liberal as their leader, someone liberal like Trump.

I agree, we are well past due for a third party. Perhaps this election will be the kick in the butt needed to make that a reality.

 

[gdgyva]

What seems to have been missed is not that they fear him because he may be a threat to the Democrats or because the "GOP Establishment" might lose out to him, but they fear him because of what he would do to the Nation. Trump is totally inexperienced and no one knows what he would do as President, his words are worthless since he changes them to fit the audience and there is no track record to go by. Trump is like some kid out of high school wanting to be given the CEO position of GE, and sadly some idiots think that would be a good idea, yeah nothing could go wrong there.

i dont disagree

but in this election cycle, we have two BAD choices

one we already know....she is a proven liar. She only cares about her power, and what her major contributors want. A lot of them from foreign soil. I cant trust her at all....

one is a blowhard, and a tv celebrity. Says a lot of different **** to different people depending on what day of the week it is it seems. But, we really dont know what he will do if elected, do we? He could be a royal mess, or he could be okay....no one freaking knows....it is all just speculation

so do i go with what i absolutely know, or what people THINK will happen?

i like to gamble....and i am going with the wildcard myself

He may be a total loss....i dunno

He cant be any worse than what we would have had with Hillary in my mind

We will survive it.....

 

[JackA]

Because they live in a bubble where they have never been challenged to think outside of the box. They also have never had to deal with the real world as they are consistently dealing with young adults who are either too stupid to think differently or are afraid of having their grades lowered if they step out of line.

A person of average or higher intelligence would be concerned if the most achieved scholars in his country warned against a potential leader. He would never believe that they and not he might be trapped in a bubble.

 

[sangha]

Tonight at 11: Liberal Professors Believe Liberal Things!

Stay tuned after for our special: Bears, Do They Really Poop In The Woods?

Rightwinger who is horrified by the notion of a President Trump thinks being horrified by the notion of a President Trump is a "liberal thing"

 

[EvaPeron]

Approximating the undesirability of a Clinton presidency to the undesirability of a Trump presidency is a big mistake and a cop out. Hillary Clinton is a conventional politician, almost a centrist on policy, with vast experience. Very unlikely she would be a catastrophe in the White House. You can't say the same about Trump. Hear Ken Burns, David McCullough, et al:



Here's Why Donald Trump Is Horrifying, According To Historians

The only evidence to the contrary is that so many American's don't agree. If you are in a small business especially a manufacturing business here in the US - things can't get much worse. We can't wait around to see if Hillary does the same ongoing harm. Liberals can say and want whatever they want, but if there isn't enough money to pay the bills - something has got to give and that's what has happened over the last 7 and a half years. There is a finite amount of money we can continue to borrow before this all comes crashing down. When people aren't able to even buy food - this will no longer be an issue of libs vs cons. It will be so much more serious.

 

[Casper]

I agree, we are well past due for a third party. Perhaps this election will be the kick in the butt needed to make that a reality.

I sure hope, but for this election we stuck with dumb and dumber.

 

[EvaPeron]

It's easy for cons to dismiss anything they don't like or agree with. Just label it liberal and they get a free pass to ignore it based on their perception of what liberal means.

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Is it possible that people say liberal to categorize all democrats and conservatives to categorize all Republicans but in actuality the problem is that many liberals and conservatives fall to the middle of the spectrum and that the spectrum has changed very, very much in this election year?

 

[Casper]

i dont disagree

but in this election cycle, we have two BAD choices

one we already know....she is a proven liar. She only cares about her power, and what her major contributors want. A lot of them from foreign soil. I cant trust her at all....

one is a blowhard, and a tv celebrity. Says a lot of different **** to different people depending on what day of the week it is it seems. But, we really dont know what he will do if elected, do we? He could be a royal mess, or he could be okay....no one freaking knows....it is all just speculation

so do i go with what i absolutely know, or what people THINK will happen?

i like to gamble....and i am going with the wildcard myself

He may be a total loss....i dunno

He cant be any worse than what we would have had with Hillary in my mind

We will survive it.....

The jury is still out on your last statement, many are not so sure we will, I am one of those, going to be a rough 4 to 8 years for the US.

 

[ajn678]

A person of average or higher intelligence would be concerned if the most achieved scholars in his country warned against a potential leader. He would never believe that they and not he might be trapped in a bubble.

Liberals fear mongering a Republican candidate is actually what is happening.

 

[EvaPeron]

Donald Trump is a loose cannon and a moron.

That is an unfair statement based on his history in terms of business success, as well as his success to date in this campaign. You might not like him but to call him a moron is not founded - just sayin

 

[Renae]

Approximating the undesirability of a Clinton presidency to the undesirability of a Trump presidency is a big mistake and a cop out. Hillary Clinton is a conventional politician, almost a centrist on policy, with vast experience. Very unlikely she would be a catastrophe in the White House. You can't say the same about Trump. Hear Ken Burns, David McCullough, et al:



Here's Why Donald Trump Is Horrifying, According To Historians

She's corrupt criminal.

That's enough to make her untenable.

The fact that Trump is running against her is unfathomably idiotic of the voters.

 

[JackA]

McCullough cites character as being the most important trait for a president to possess, then goes on to use Kennedy as an example. :roll:

No doubt he means the strength of character that guided him thru the Cuban missile crisis - imagine Trump in that spot, not a weakness for women.

 

[Abbazorkzog]

That is an unfair statement based on his history in terms of business success, as well as his success to date in this campaign. You might not like him but to call him a moron is not founded - just sayin

.......Not when he wants to ban 1.5 billion people from entering the ****ing COUNTRY!

 

[JC Callender]

No doubt he means the strength of character that guided him thru the Cuban missile crisis - imagine Trump in that spot, not a weakness for women.

Didn't he enlist the mafia to help him?

 

[Hari Seldon]

Its east to dismiss because it is normally full of lunacy.

THANK YOU! My point exactly.

 

[iguanaman]

That is an unfair statement based on his history in terms of business success, as well as his success to date in this campaign. You might not like him but to call him a moron is not founded - just sayin

Yet many economist say he would probably would have as much or more money if he just invested the $400 million he inherited. He's not as rich as he says either. Billionaires don't sell meat or start fake universities as a rule. He may not be a moron but he is certainly an 1st class A-hole.

 

[gdgyva]

A person of average or higher intelligence would be concerned if the most achieved scholars in his country warned against a potential leader. He would never believe that they and not he might be trapped in a bubble.

not really

i know that most of the scholars lean one way politically

so if they "warn" the general population against one politician, people of average intelligence may deem them trying to throw an election towards their political lean

but what do i know....am i not one of those "scholars" am i?

 

[tres borrachos]

Approximating the undesirability of a Clinton presidency to the undesirability of a Trump presidency is a big mistake and a cop out. Hillary Clinton is a conventional politician, almost a centrist on policy, with vast experience. Very unlikely she would be a catastrophe in the White House. You can't say the same about Trump. Hear Ken Burns, David McCullough, et al:



Here's Why Donald Trump Is Horrifying, According To Historians

Editor’s note: Donald Trump regularly incites political violence and is a serial liar, rampant xenophobe, racist, misogynist and birther who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims ― 1.6 billion members of an entire religion ― from entering the U.S.


Next time add a warning when you're posting porn. I can't stand Trump but drivel like that makes me sympathetic towards the man.

 

[Dittohead not!]

Is it possible that people say liberal to categorize all democrats and conservatives to categorize all Republicans but in actuality the problem is that many liberals and conservatives fall to the middle of the spectrum and that the spectrum has changed very, very much in this election year?

It is not only possible, it is downright certain.

 

[Hawkeye10]

What I really fear may play out in November is a Brexit scene. The American working class, just like the working class in the United Kingdom, has been betrayed by elites at every turn: Ordinary working people have been given no project to advance in their own world, no path toward building a better future for themselves. Seen from this angle, it's no wonder that economically exploited Britons took the chance to disobey their leaders like a shot.

In this country, the conventional "wisdom" is that Trump doesn't have a chance, but this morning's Quinnipiac poll has him ahead of Clinton in the only places that count, swing states Florida and Pennsylvania, and tied in Ohio. Add in the fringe candidates and Trump leads in all three states. Don’t expect the media to take this story very seriously, though, just as they didn't believe Trump had a chance at the Republican nomination until way after he already had it in the bag. Trump is our Brexit, you might say. There's a very real possibility that come November, Dimon and Clinton, despite their tiny, sanctimonious and self-congratulatory attempts to bribe the working class with wage raises, will find themselves right where David Cameron and the UK banking establishment landed a few weeks ago.

The Democrats just ceded economic justice to Donald Trump - LA Times

THIS

**** with the little people enough and we will eventually come for your heads (Figuratively one hopes, but maybe not).

It was always thus, and always thus it will be.

Seriously.





ONWARDS WITH THE REBELLION!