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Here Comes Elizabeth Warren!

Jack Hays

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She says she's not running, but her activists are certainly organizing on her behalf.

Can populist sentiment shake Hillary Clinton?

Elizabeth Warren, left, and Hillary Clinton. (Bloomberg)

Dan Balz DEC 24
Democrats’ push to draft Elizabeth Warren displays the party’s fault lines. But will it change the party’s track?

"Last week, in a coffeehouse in downtown Des Moines, a group of progressive activists launched an effort that they hope will change the 2016 presidential campaign and in the process upend the Democratic Party.


The gathering in Iowa, organized by MoveOn.org and backed by Democracy for America, was the opening of a grass-roots push to draft Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) to run for president. Its broader effect was to escalate the debate among Democrats about the party’s values, its message, its real constituencies and, most of all, how it can win elections in the post-Obama era.


That there is such a debate over the direction of the Democratic Party is without question, and the differences have become louder in the wake of the drubbing the Democrats suffered in the midterm elections.


What is in question is the degree to which the rising populist movement on the left can materially shape the party’s future. More specifically, absent some sign from Warren that she is going to run, can these Democrats successfully pressure Hillary Rodham Clinton, the party’s dominant prospective presidential candidate, to adopt much of their agenda? . . . ."
 
I like Warren much more than Clinton but with that said I'd rather vote for Bernie Sanders.
 
I doubt warren runs, and I bet Hillary stays a centrist...

Warren has archaic views on Israel to, but she is much better everywhere else then the rest of the dems...
 
Pleased to see Native American support for Fauxcahontas.

First, another GOP-like OP trying to divide Warren and Clinton.

Then, this response by you calling Warren Fauxcahontas after several posters post their support for Warren.

Do you still support Clinton due to her NeoCon past ?
 
First, another GOP-like OP trying to divide Warren and Clinton.

Then, this response by you calling Warren Fauxcahontas after several posters post their support for Warren.

Do you still support Clinton due to her NeoCon past ?

I have a series of threads up about several candidates from both parties.
 
Any on the divides between Rand Paul and other GOPs like you on Cuba .

I have a series of threads up about several candidates from both parties.

And as always, you fail to address my three points that you quoted .
 
i'd probably vote for her (after i see her complete platform.) she seems to genuinely care about workers.

i really doubt that she will run, though.
 
Some of the punditry are saying that Clinton will veer to the left to gain the Warren constituency.

They also say that this is likely not to matter in that the greatest falling demographic for the Democrats are the middle class whites, and you're not gonna win an election without them.

The election is still just under 2 years in the future. All this is still very very early.

Still time to the Democrats to stem the bleeding of their various constituencies.
Still time for the Republicans to screw something up really badly and be rewarded with the disdain of their constituencies.
Still time for the Democrats to screw something up really badly and be rewarded with the disdain of their constituencies.
 
I have a series of threads up about several candidates from both parties.

Greetings, Jack. :2wave:

Maybe I haven't had enough coffee yet, but where do I find them?
 
Any on the divides between Rand Paul and other GOPs like you on Cuba .



And as always, you fail to address my three points that you quoted .

There were no points to address. I happen to agree with Paul on Cuba. There was nothing to address in your three "points."
 
Happy Boxing Day, Polgara.:2wave:

Uh oh! If I don't go shopping today, I'm not in the spirit of things? Never let it be said! :lamo: I honestly don't think I'm up to fighting crowds today, but I could probably borrow someone's unwanted gifts and offer to return them, and give it a college try! I'll ask my neighbor - she has a nose for bargains like no one I have ever met!

Tomorrow we'll begin installing cedar paneling in several closets in my house. It smells so good, and moths and other critters hate it! I got a gift certificate from a local lumber yard as a gift for Christmas - and it did take some strong hinting and outright whining to get it, but it worked! And labor charges are included! :thumbs:
 

Traditionally, it's the day to be kind to servants and trades people.

[h=3]Boxing Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/h]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxing_DayWikipedia


Boxing Day is a holiday traditionally celebrated the day following Christmas Day, when servants and tradespeople would receive gifts, known as a "Christmas box", from their bosses or employers, in the United Kingdom, Barbados, Canada, Hong Kong, Australia, New Zealand, Kenya, South Africa, Guyana, Trinidad ...
 

Well, I don't have servants, although my children used to think so when I expected them to clean their rooms. :mrgreen: I'm always kind to trade people, especially if I've hired them to do a job for me - I've learned you get better results that way! And I did take cookie trays to the post office and bank as a thank you, and I gave my paperboy a check. I believe I might have observed Boxing Day without even knowing it, Jack, and although I was a week early, they didn't seem to mind! :2razz:
 
First, another GOP-like OP trying to divide Warren and Clinton.

Then, this response by you calling Warren Fauxcahontas after several posters post their support for Warren.

Do you still support Clinton due to her NeoCon past ?
Lol she's still a neocon/centrist in my book.... She's for war and against single payer or universal healthcare...

Plus her husband made one of the biggest cuts to capital gains in recent history (besides Obama) and crippled the economy be getting rid of glass steigel...

Honestly I don't see why cons don't love Clinton, he deregulated the market more than anybody...
 
i'd probably vote for her (after i see her complete platform.) she seems to genuinely care about workers.

i really doubt that she will run, though.
All her policy's seem to be decent, better than most, except for on Israel she sides with Israel...

Although you never know what they will do once in office, Obama proved that...
 
She won't run in 2016. She is too smart for that. She might take a cabinet post in the Clinton administration though.
The only way I could see her running is if someone invites her as the running mate... I could see Sanders doing it if he runs, or possibly Hillary but idk their views might be to different.
 

Hillary is a political whore. She will take whatever stance that she thinks will win her the nomination and then change if necessary to win the general election. Then if elected, she will likely go even further left then Warren.
Personally, I think Hillary is washed up. I don't think she can recover from the numerous gaffes she made in her first run in 2008 or the gaffes she has made in this potential run.....example: "We were stone cold broke when we left the white house". And I don't think she has the health to mount a serious campaign effort.
 
All her policy's seem to be decent, better than most, except for on Israel she sides with Israel...

Although you never know what they will do once in office, Obama proved that...

that is true.
 

You quite obviously know nothing about Hilary or warrens policy's or beliefs. If Hilary goes further left then warren I will poo gold and post a video of it.

If she will as you say "take whatever stance to win a nomination" she is doing the worlds worst job of appealing to the left. I would actually agree if you said Obama did that, because, well, he did... But Clinton does not seem to do that.

Hilary and bill are both centrists. They even lean very far right sometimes, like on healthcare. Believe it or not the ACA is a right wing policy, thought up in the 80s at a right wing think tank. It was first proposed by Bob dole. She is a huge warhawk, her husband cut capital gains more than bush, and deregulated the market by repealing glass steigel. Again you seem to have not a clue...
 
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