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In this movie of Brigitte Gabriel you can see and hear things from first source. Brigitte Gabriel is an American who grew up in Lebanon. She tells her unbelievable story during her times in Lebanon. Worth watching.

If the link above doesn't work then use these:

YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel Part 1
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 2
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 3
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 4
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 5
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 6
YouTube - Brigitte Gabriel part 7 (FINAL)
 
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"Survivor of Islamic Terror" . . . yeah, I'm sure it's a hell of a lot worse than the Israeli terrorist occupation that lasted 18 years and managed to kill 20,000 people.

I turned it off after the first part btw.

Just an Islamophobic pro-Israel/US rant.
 
Thanks for the link FoJ. :cool: Excellent Piece.

The woman is obviously brilliant, and speaks with a first hand knowledge of the mid-eastern world. I'd take her word over the word of an anti-semitic communist from Wales as regards what is going on in that part of the world, any and every day. :cool: :lol:
 
Thanks for the link FoJ. :cool: Excellent Piece.

The woman is obviously brilliant, and speaks with a first hand knowledge of the mid-eastern world. I'd take her word over the word of an anti-semitic communist from Wales as regards what is going on in that part of the world, any and every day. :cool: :lol:

Obviously brilliant!!! What's her message exactly? That muslims are very bad, and that Christians and Jews are very good! WOW!


And the accusation of anti-semitism.


Ground breaking stuff.

Now, would you like to point out what part of the post was anti-semitic? Or will you just bottle it?
 
This'll do.

Uhh, actually it won't. Their occupation (of Lebanon, which is the country where this woman comes from . . . a country in which Israel killed 20,000 people, as I already pointed out) was illegal, and brutal . . . and it was instigated by Israel, they commited war crimes, tortured people etc etc.

This woman is a Christian bigot, like the Muslim bigots in Lebanon, which is evident in the language she uses.

And it looks like I was right, you bottled it.
 
Their occupation (of Lebanon, which is the country where this woman comes from . . . a country in which Israel killed 20,000 people, as I already pointed out) was illegal, and brutal . . . and it was instigated by Israel, they commited war crimes, tortured people etc etc.

I quite simply disagree. If you were credible on this thread / topic, you would have watched the series of videos, in which she explains the circumstances of the very legitimate and provoked military invasion you try to call a terrorist occupation. I have watched the series of videos the thread is about, you have watched a little, of the first installment. She was there when it happened, you were not. She covers the conflict you try to misrepresent, and she was on the ground at the time, so allow me to reiterate, , ,

Voidwar said:
I'd take her word over the word of an anti-semitic communist from Wales as regards what is going on in that part of the world, any and every day.

This woman is a Christian bigot, like the Muslim bigots in Lebanon, which is evident in the language she uses.

Evidence ?
 
Evidence ?


What she's generally saying in the first part of the video, is that before the muslims "multiplied" Lebanon was a lot better - "the Paris of the middle east", "the best" etc, before the Muslims turned up and ruined it . . . . and she is pro-Israel and yet she blames the Palestinians for what happend in Lebanon which is a bit ironic considering it's because of Israel they ended up as refugees in the first place (yeah, I said it).

you try to misrepresent,

I'm not.
 
What she's generally saying in the first part of the video, is that before the muslims "multiplied" Lebanon was a lot better - "the Paris of the middle east", "the best" etc, before the Muslims turned up and ruined it

Not what she says, and by the time signatures , you still havent watched the whole statement.

She says the muslims turned up, and multiplied very quickly due to their different family structure. True and non bigoted. She then says that waves of refugee "palestinians" were expelled from Jordan, including Yasser Arafat, a widely known and understood fact. This wave of Jordanian/ "palestinian" militiamen are who she claims "ruined" Lebanon, with the eventual connivance of a significant portion of the aforementioned and newly expanded Lebanese Muslim population.

. . . . and she is pro-Israel and yet she blames the Palestinians for what happend in Lebanon which is a bit ironic considering it's because of Israel they ended up as refugees in the first place (yeah, I said it).

Incorrect, Jordan's late King Hussien is who drove them into Lebanon's newly Muslim rural south.
 
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Not what she says, and by the time signatures , you still havent watched the whole statement.

She says the muslims turned up, and multiplied very quickly due to their different family structure. True and non bigoted. She then says that waves of refugee "palestinians" were expelled from Jordan, including Yasser Arafat, a widely known and understood fact. This wave of Jordanian/ "palestinian" militiamen are who she claims "ruined" Labanon, with the eventual connivance of a significant portion of the aforementioned and newly expanded Lebanese Muslim population.

I assume your putting the word 'Palestinians' in "" marks because you don't think of them as a nation and part of some terrorist caste like this woman wants us to think of them.

Incorrect, Jordan's King Husien is who drove them into Lebanon's newly Muslim rural south

The Palestinians found themselves in Lebanon since the early days of the Israeli state. Hussein drove out the PLO.

I'll watch the whole statement.


More later . . .
 
Hussein drove out the PLO.
Understood, VV expressed here VV but perhaps not bluntly enough.
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expelled from Jordan, including Yasser Arafat, a widely known and understood fact. This wave of Jordanian/ "palestinian" militiamen are who she claims "ruined" Lebanon,
 
"Survivor of Islamic Terror" . . . yeah, I'm sure it's a hell of a lot worse than the Israeli terrorist occupation that lasted 18 years and managed to kill 20,000 people.
Not true! There's no "Israeli terrorist occupation" but only Arab terrorist occupation in the land of Israel. Go and visit this thread. And Israel didn't kill 20,000 people but only couple of thousands of them because wars that they opened at Israel:
The total count reaches about 60,000 Arabs killed in the framework of the Israeli-Arab conflict. Among them only several thousand Palestinians, although it is because of them, and only them, that Israel is the target of the world’s anger. Every Arab and Muslim death is regrettable. And it is okay to criticize Israel. But the obsessive and demonic criticism emphasizes a far more amazing fact: The silence of the world, or at least relative silence, in the face of the systematic extermination of millions of others by Muslim and Arab regimes. Full article inside

Only in the last months the Palestinians killed dozens of themselves.
 
I assume your putting the word 'Palestinians' in "" marks because you don't think of them as a nation and part of some terrorist caste like this woman wants us to think of them.



The Palestinians found themselves in Lebanon since the early days of the Israeli state. Hussein drove out the PLO.

I'll watch the whole statement.


More later . . .


You know what really annoys me is the real lack of understanding you have about this conlfict. Yassar Arafat fled to Lebanon, and established his terror network there.

Now are you a liberal the believes in international law, or do you think that it is something that should be used to constantly bash Israel? Now Yassar Arafat was running the PLO from Lebanon, terrorising the local Christian and Shia communities. Meanwhile the Lebanonese government did jack about it. So do you think that it is morally right for Israel just sit on its hands while Yassar Arafat runs amok? No way. What Israel did was right. They went in to destroy a terrorist organisation that a soverign nation did not have the balls to deal with. Soverignty of a nation does not give you the right to shelter terrorists.

As for Hezbollah they are nothing than the lap dogs of Iran. Secondly, the Lebanese that voted for Hezbollah, i.e the Shia, should not suddenly wonder why they are at war. They voted for a political-milita that stated that they want want to destroy Israel. So don't come crying when you start getting bombed. The politicians that the Lebanese Shia voted for, sanctioned the kidnapping of Israeli soldiers, by their militia. So if you don't like going to war with Israel don't vote for parties that are directly antagonistic towards Israel.

If you support Hezbollah, Hamas, and the PLO, then you are supporting terrorists. Hezbollah and Hamas blatently don't gve a crap about the Palestinian or Lebanese people; they are merely pouns used to kill the Jews that they despise so much. PLO give a B.S Marxist-Lenist view that the violence in the middle east is about land and oppression, but agains that is nothing more than a cover.

So here is a little question for you. 1)If this conflict is about land, why weren't the Palestinians in constant conflict with the Ottaman Turks? Oh wait muslims don't mind other muslims controling them. But heaven forbid that you let the evil Jews have their own state.

2) Secondly if this conflict is about land, why do suicide bombers attack Tel Aviv? Why don't they attack the illegal settlements that are meant to be the source of their resentment. Oh wait there are more Jews to kill in the big cities that than illegal settlements.....

Once you wake up and realise that muslims in the middle east are following the wonderful example of the Prophet Mohammed, who was nothing more than a war mongerer, liar, cheat, pedophile, and an anti-Jewish bigot, only then will you realise that there will never be peace in the middle east regardless of Palestinian state. Because ultimatley Israel is the biggest afront to the Arab-muslim world. How can muslims allow the Jews to have their own country right in the middle of the Umma, when the Koran clearly states that Muslims are Gods chosen people?

Laslty you may think that I am Jewish zealot, or a Christian right wing nut. No infact I am an ATHEIST. I will stand with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddists and Pagens to expose all the B.S about Islam being the religion of peace, when infact it is nothing more than a militant death cult that demands absolute belief. Islam does not mean peace, it means submit.

I am inherently anit-jihad, and always proud to be an infidel, one of the Kafir. :twisted:
 
Uhh, actually it won't. Their occupation (of Lebanon, which is the country where this woman comes from . . . a country in which Israel killed 20,000 people, as I already pointed out) was illegal, and brutal . . . and it was instigated by Israel, they commited war crimes, tortured people etc etc.

This woman is a Christian bigot, like the Muslim bigots in Lebanon, which is evident in the language she uses.

And it looks like I was right, you bottled it.


Quit spewing your muslim propaganda. If hisz'allah hadn't been attacking Israel, Israel would never have had to go into Lebanon and kick the crap out of them.

Get your facts straight or refrain from speaking.

:doh
 
Quit spewing your muslim propaganda. If hisz'allah hadn't been attacking Israel, Israel would never have had to go into Lebanon and kick the crap out of them.

Get your facts straight or refrain from speaking.

:doh
You should try to get your facts straight here. The Israelians started this war against Lebanon at 6th of June 1982. Hezbollah was not even founded at this time. Hezbollah has been founded during the war.

Estimations say, more than 17.000 Arabs have been killed in this war. Not all of them have been killed by Israelian, the Zionists allied with Christian fascists in Lebanon, their victims nd losses may count here, too, for instance.

Israelian troops stayed 18 years in a Southern part of Lebanon.
 
You should try to get your facts straight here. The Israelians started this war against Lebanon at 6th of June 1982. Hezbollah was not even founded at this time. Hezbollah has been founded during the war.
You should try to get your facts straight here. The Israelis didn't start this war. It were the Palestine terrorist organization that created his terror base in the south of Lebanon and fired his Katusha rockets at Israel and sent his death squads to slaughter Israeli children in the Kibutzim in the north of Israel.
Estimations say, more than 17.000 Arabs have been killed in this war. Not all of them have been killed by Israelian, the Zionists allied with Christian fascists in Lebanon, their victims nd losses may count here, too, for instance.
Once you use the term 'Zionists' then 'Israelians'. You have to decide. So what if Lebanese were killed by the Israelis. Even millions of Germans were killed by the allies. So what?

Israelian troops stayed 18 years in a Southern part of Lebanon.
We should have stayed there! It was a mistake to leave the security zone!
 
You should try to get your facts straight here. The Israelis didn't start this war. It were the Palestine terrorist organization that created his terror base in the south of Lebanon and fired his Katusha rockets at Israel and sent his death squads to slaughter Israeli children in the Kibutzim in the north of Israel.
You should try to get your facts straight here. There was a conflict between PLO and Israel. The war against Lebanon has been started by Israel.

Once you use the term 'Zionists' then 'Israelians'. You have to decide.
Why do I have to decide?

So what if Lebanese were killed by the Israelis. Even millions of Germans were killed by the allies. So what?
So what? I have heard, killing people is wrong.

We should have stayed there! It was a mistake to leave the security zone!
They would not have wanted your troops to stay there.
 
You should try to get your facts straight here. There was a conflict between PLO and Israel. The war against Lebanon has been started by Israel.
My facts are 100% true. You forgot to mention that terrorist organizations always use Lebanon as their base.

They would not have wanted your troops to stay there.
And Israel don't want to suffer from rockets that fired from Lebanon and Israel don't want to suffer from terror that comes from Lebanon, what do you have to say about that? I don't think that you have something to say about that. You always were the defense attorney of the enemies of Israel who wish to destroy her.
 
Not true! There's no "Israeli terrorist occupation" but only Arab terrorist occupation in the land of Israel. Go and visit this thread.

Like what?:confused:


And there was such thing as Palestine, there is now a state of Palestine: State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . . . Palestine existed before 1948. It wasn't sovereign state but it was there, people lived there and it's true most of them didn't think of themselves as Palestinians untill they became refugees. But it's not about before 1948. Before 1948 Israel didn't exist either. . . so the Palestinians (with their state . . .that is to say the OT) have a right to call themselves Palestinians. And for the record I think Israel has a right to exist aswell.


. Meanwhile the Lebanonese government did jack about it. So do you think that it is morally right for Israel just sit on its hands while Yassar Arafat runs amok? No way. What Israel did was right. They went in to destroy a terrorist organisation

Yeah and they destroyed the country at the same time.

As for Hezbollah

Did I mention Hezbollah?

1)If this conflict is about land, why weren't the Palestinians in constant conflict with the Ottaman Turks? Oh wait muslims don't mind other muslims controling them. But heaven forbid that you let the evil Jews have their own state.

The Turks didn't drive them out, did they? They didn't build apartheid walls, did they?

But heaven forbid that you let the evil Jews have their own state.

:roll:

Yeah the usual usual rhetoric about "anti-semitism" . . . has it occurred to you that people might actually criticize Israel because of it's foreign policy? . . . I'm talking about Israel in it's occupation of Palestine and it's overzealous military, bombing the **** out of whoever they please (who mostly end up being mostly civilians).


2) Secondly if this conflict is about land, why do suicide bombers attack Tel Aviv? Why don't they attack the illegal settlements that are meant to be the source of their resentment. Oh wait there are more Jews to kill in the big cities that than illegal settlements.....

Did I mention suicide-bombers? Or are you one of those people who think criticism of Israel = anti-semitism and terrorist sympathies? :confused:

Laslty you may think that I am Jewish zealot, or a Christian right wing nut. No infact I am an ATHEIST. I will stand with Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddists and Pagens
.

Oxymoron?
 
My facts are 100% true. You forgot to mention that terrorist organizations always use Lebanon as their base.
You said the Israelis did not start this war and this wrong.

And Israel don't want to suffer from rockets that fired from Lebanon and Israel don't want to suffer from terror that comes from Lebanon, what do you have to say about that? I don't think that you have something to say about that. You always were the defense attorney of the enemies of Israel who wish to destroy her.
Terrorism and rockets fired from Lebanon to Israel is not acceptable.
 
You said the Israelis did not start this war and this wrong.
Not true. The Israelis indeed didn't start this war. It were the Palestinians who used Lebanon as their base to fire Katusha rockets at Israel and when they sent their death squads to slaughter Israelis in the mid 70's.

Terrorism and rockets fired from Lebanon to Israel is not acceptable.
Indeed, and the Palestinians in Lebanon were the ones who opened this war in the mid 70's.
 
Not true. The Israelis indeed didn't start this war. It were the Palestinians who used Lebanon as their base to fire Katusha rockets at Israel and when they sent their death squads to slaughter Israelis in the mid 70's.
There have been conflicts since the mid 70's. The war in 1982 has been started by Israel.

Indeed, and the Palestinians in Lebanon were the ones who opened this war in the mid 70's.
There was a conflict, but there was no war.
 
There have been conflicts since the mid 70's. The war in 1982 has been started by Israel.

There was a conflict, but there was no war.
So when the Palestinian terror organizations started to fire Katusha rockets since the 60's it is consider in your eyes to be a 'conflict' but when Israel is fighting them back you consider it as 'war'? That was started by Israel?

You can fool couple of people some of the time. You can't fool all the people and all the time!
 
So when the Palestinian terror organizations started to fire Katusha rockets since the 60's it is consider in your eyes to be a 'conflict' but when Israel is fighting them back you consider it as 'war'? That was started by Israel?
I would phrase it, when Palestinians fired rockets, it was a conflict, if Israelians started a war, it was war.

You can fool couple of people some of the time. You can't fool all the people and all the time!
This is correct.
 

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