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Proudly Pro Life JP Freem said:
Hi Mommy, sorry to hear your baby didn't make it.
As you may be aware,
1. 30-50% of all fertilized eggs don't make it past the 1st monthly period, of those that do...
2. 15% of known pregnancies end up as a miscarriage. Probably higher, but we only have medical data hence 'known'.
3. Even beyond that there are many stillbirths, but certainly less than miscarriages, just as there are less miscarriages in later stages than early ones.
While 50 and 70 percent of first trimester miscarriages are thought to be random events caused by chromosomal abnormalities, the other 30-50% do not exhibit as such and are caused by other natural reasons.
mis·car·riage
Source: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=miscarriage
n.
- The premature expulsion of a nonviable fetus from the uterus. Also called spontaneous abortion
- Premature expulsion of a nonviable fetus, especially before the middle of the second trimester of gestation; spontaneous abortion.
- spontaneous expulsion of a human fetus before it is viable and especially between the 12th and 28th weeks of gestation
- a natural loss of the products of conception [syn: spontaneous abortion, stillbirth]
Miscarriage is the loss of a pregnancy in the first 20 weeks. On average, about 15 percent of known pregnancies end in miscarriage, and more than 80 percent of the time, it happens in the first trimester.
(This doesn't include situations where you lose a fertilized egg before you get a positive pregnancy test. Studies have found that 30 to 50 percent of all fertilized eggs are lost before a woman finds out she's pregnant because they happen so early that she goes on to get her period about on time.) If you lose a baby after 20 weeks of pregnancy, it's called a stillbirth.
Source: http://www.babycenter.com/refcap/pregnancy/pregcomplications/252.html#0
Even after birth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birth, we know babies die from numerous natural causes.
[Birth is the process in animals http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal by which an offspring is expelled from the body of its mother.]
So as you can see Mommy, nature doesn't bestow a natural 'right' to live on anyone. Even in evolution we see the extinction of every species of man except homo sapiens. Yes, nature is brutal. Perhaps we should consider incarcerating nature?
Some people think that God has given men certain 'rights'. So lets talk about God for a moment. He seems to kill directly or indirectly an awful lot of people, and He advocates not only murder, but genocide, infanticide, rape, slavery, child abuse, ritual human sacrifice, and as these verses show, abortion.
Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”
Clearly Hosea desires that the people of Ephraim can no longer have children. God of course obeys by making all their unborn children miscarry. Is not terminating a pregnancy unnaturally “abortion”?
Numbers 31:17 (Moses) “Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every women that hath known man by lying with him.”
In other words: women that might be pregnant, which clearly is abortion for the fetus.
Hosea 13:16 God promises to dash to pieces the infants of Samaria and the “their women with child shall be ripped up”.
2 Kings 15:16 God allows the pregnant women of Tappuah (aka Tiphsah) to be “ripped open”.
Once again God kills the unborn, including their pregnant mothers.
So God doesn't seem to provide for a 'right' to live, heck, He doesn't even seem to abide by His own commandments "Thou shalt not kill", etc. but lets leave that for another thread.
Nature certainly doesn't seem to provide for a 'right' to live. We see that in the evolutionary extinction of certain species of man, and in everyday life.
But there are 100 million children living today, homeless and without parents, they would gladly accept a mommy. Perhaps we can focus on those amongst us and consider them for a change?
The truth is that the issue of abortion is mainly limited to the poor, as those that can afford it, can simply leave this country (or the particular state) if abortion were illegal.
A July 2005 Pew Research Center poll asked Americans about Roe vs. Wade and found that 29% want it overturned while 65% do not.
I find it reprehensible that the church does not advocate use of birth control in an effort to minimize abortions.
I find it reprehensible that the anti-abortion crowd does not move toward the center agreeing that in cases of rape, health of mother or fetus, incest, it should be permitted, again, minimizing the overall use of abortion.
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