Health condition - need advice

[Opteron]

Don't want to be a buzzkill but I'm in a bit of a bind and DP'ers are pretty smart and I could use your advice. Don't wanna gross you out but I have a health condition, an infectious disease an intestinal parasite. I got it from travelling a while back. And it has become airborne so that other people could potentially get sick, I hear people coughing and stuff whenever I go out. I've gone to the doctors taken meds, its not much help, the doctors won't even believe me. I'm in my late 20's, pretty much I've graduated college and haven't done much since because of the health condition. So I'm considering working with the condition because I've got to get a move on it. I really don't want to make other employees sick and haven't been working because of that, however I don't have much choice. An update, very recently the situation seems to get better, but I'm not sure if it's temporary or a more permanent trend I'll have to wait and see. Ya so I could use some advice on what to do in this situation like what you would do or some opinion and input. Thanks, -Opteron.

 

[Fisher]

An infectious airborne intestinal parasite? Maybe something lost in translation or I have no clue what that would be.

Do whatever the doctor tells you.

 

[Peter Grimm]

Go see a specialist if your family doctor isn't helping.

 

[wolfman24]

What is the specific parasite? What are the symptoms?

Have you talked with a specialist?

Is it spread by any other vector other than air?

Longevity? Development?

I suggest you skip a GP and go to your local university and talk to a medical parasitologist. they can point you in the right direction if not be able to help you directly. Some of these guys are MD's.

SOme parasites can go into a dormant phase where you would not experience any symptoms. So better error on the side of caution. Get thee to a physician.

 

[mak2]

How do you know it has become airborne? Intestinal parasites are not a matter of opinion. Has you doctor recommended another specialist?

 

[Opteron]

What is the specific parasite? What are the symptoms?

Have you talked with a specialist?

Is it spread by any other vector other than air?

Longevity? Development?

I suggest you skip a GP and go to your local university and talk to a medical parasitologist. they can point you in the right direction if not be able to help you directly. Some of these guys are MD's.

SOme parasites can go into a dormant phase where you would not experience any symptoms. So better error on the side of caution. Get thee to a physician.

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have talked to specialists, but they deny my diagnosis, they say nothing is wrong. I have talked to Gastroenterologists and 1 infectious disease guy. I have done stool tests, they come negative, but they should have come positive because there was a lot of foreign matter and weird stuff in it. The doctors mainly go off the stool tests, if the test comes negative, you're fine, if not then not. However on other internet forums people with parasites have said that the tests are unreliable and they have had the same frustration with not being able to be diagnosed as well. I know I have this disease because I live with it and I have seen it, but its hard to get it confirmed. A lot of the doctors in US don't really have experience with it too because its not as common a disease here. I think in my case the most damage is done by air. Also, I think it takes 6 months - 1 year to get sick, because that's how long it took me to have the disease develop.

 

[mak2]

I think you are seeing the wrong kind of specialist. We are completely anonymous on here so dont take this personally. I used to work ER and have seen patients with a similar sequelae. Usually they end up with a referal to a completely different specialist. Maybe you should talk to Psyche?

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have talked to specialists, but they deny my diagnosis, they say nothing is wrong. I have talked to Gastroenterologists and 1 infectious disease guy. I have done stool tests, they come negative, but they should have come positive because there was a lot of foreign matter and weird stuff in it. The doctors mainly go off the stool tests, if the test comes negative, you're fine, if not then not. However on other internet forums people with parasites have said that the tests are unreliable and they have had the same frustration with not being able to be diagnosed as well. I know I have this disease because I live with it and I have seen it, but its hard to get it confirmed. A lot of the doctors in US don't really have experience with it too because its not as common a disease here. I think in my case the most damage is done by air. Also, I think it takes 6 months - 1 year to get sick, because that's how long it took me to have the disease develop.

 

[Opteron]

How do you know it has become airborne? Intestinal parasites are not a matter of opinion. Has you doctor recommended another specialist?

Thanks for the reply. If you go to the average doctor, they may or may not have experience with this. The last GI I went to I asked to do a pill cam to be certain what was down there, but he was very reluctant to do it and the insurance denied it. If I have the money one time I might get it done without the insurance approving it. I know it has become airborne because I hear a lot of people coughing and making noises around me. In the very beginning I didn't notice it, but after a while I realized that this coughing must be related to me. I remember before in class. most people were silent most of the time. Afterwards, I notice many people coughing constantly. I told the infectious disease guy I saw that it has become airborne etc. etc. but he just dismissed right out saying that 'parasites are not airborne'. I told him that this could be a first / these things could be evolving / these things are so complicated that we don't even know how every single one of them works and he again just dismissed it and said you're fine you're delusional and that's it.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have talked to specialists, but they deny my diagnosis, they say nothing is wrong. I have talked to Gastroenterologists and 1 infectious disease guy. I have done stool tests, they come negative, but they should have come positive because there was a lot of foreign matter and weird stuff in it. The doctors mainly go off the stool tests, if the test comes negative, you're fine, if not then not. However on other internet forums people with parasites have said that the tests are unreliable and they have had the same frustration with not being able to be diagnosed as well. I know I have this disease because I live with it and I have seen it, but its hard to get it confirmed. A lot of the doctors in US don't really have experience with it too because its not as common a disease here. I think in my case the most damage is done by air. Also, I think it takes 6 months - 1 year to get sick, because that's how long it took me to have the disease develop.

So - you don't have an infectious airborne intestinal parasite then.

You need to see another kind of Dr to follow through with this:
1) Why you think you have a problem when Dr's have tested you and have told you that you don't.
2) You want to self diagnose and claim you need online diagnosis because you've decided it's airborne and it's going to spread to others.

 

[mak2]

See post #7

Thanks for the reply. If you go to the average doctor, they may or may not have experience with this. The last GI I went to I asked to do a pill cam to be certain what was down there, but he was very reluctant to do it and the insurance denied it. If I have the money one time I might get it done without the insurance approving it. I know it has become airborne because I hear a lot of people coughing and making noises around me. In the very beginning I didn't notice it, but after a while I realized that this coughing must be related to me. I remember before in class. most people were silent most of the time. Afterwards, I notice many people coughing constantly. I told the infectious disease guy I saw that it has become airborne etc. etc. but he just dismissed right out saying that 'parasites are not airborne'. I told him that this could be a first / these things could be evolving / these things are so complicated that we don't even know how every single one of them works and he again just dismissed it and said you're fine you're delusional and that's it.

So - you don't have an infectious airborne intestinal parasite then.

You need to see another kind of Dr to follow through with this:
1) Why you think you have a problem when Dr's have tested you and have told you that you don't.
2) You want to self diagnose and claim you need online diagnosis because you've decided it's airborne and it's going to spread to others.

 

[Aunt Spiker]

Op - it's winter . . . people get sick. Odds are your classroom has stale traditional school-air that aggravates things like a cold or the flu. If you were the cause of some massive outbreak you'd be in quarantine already.

 

[wolfman24]

Thanks for the reply. Yes, I have talked to specialists, but they deny my diagnosis, they say nothing is wrong. I have talked to Gastroenterologists and 1 infectious disease guy. I have done stool tests, they come negative, but they should have come positive because there was a lot of foreign matter and weird stuff in it. The doctors mainly go off the stool tests, if the test comes negative, you're fine, if not then not. However on other internet forums people with parasites have said that the tests are unreliable and they have had the same frustration with not being able to be diagnosed as well. I know I have this disease because I live with it and I have seen it, but its hard to get it confirmed. A lot of the doctors in US don't really have experience with it too because its not as common a disease here. I think in my case the most damage is done by air. Also, I think it takes 6 months - 1 year to get sick, because that's how long it took me to have the disease develop.

If you have seen it then you need to collect a sample and take it in right away. Stool samples can be a snapshot in time thats true but depending on what other tests you have had there might be logic to what they say.

YOur assertion of 6 months to a year to get sick is unrealistic. NO parasite has a growth cycle that long and certainly not a reproductive cycle that long. What makes most people sick with bacterial or multicelled parasites is the waste products. Some parasites attach to the various parts of the body and that causes issues. Others actually 'eat" those areas. Its a very mixed bad.

Also an airborne bacteria or multicelled parasite that is 'airborne would not be visible to the naked eye even in large numbers.

What do you mean when you say "the most damage is done by air" this makes no sense.

 

[wolfman24]

Thanks for the reply. If you go to the average doctor, they may or may not have experience with this. The last GI I went to I asked to do a pill cam to be certain what was down there, but he was very reluctant to do it and the insurance denied it. If I have the money one time I might get it done without the insurance approving it. I know it has become airborne because I hear a lot of people coughing and making noises around me. In the very beginning I didn't notice it, but after a while I realized that this coughing must be related to me. I remember before in class. most people were silent most of the time. Afterwards, I notice many people coughing constantly. I told the infectious disease guy I saw that it has become airborne etc. etc. but he just dismissed right out saying that 'parasites are not airborne'. I told him that this could be a first / these things could be evolving / these things are so complicated that we don't even know how every single one of them works and he again just dismissed it and said you're fine you're delusional and that's it.

Your explanations are becoming more and more weird. If your problem is airborne as you say and people are coughing this has nothing to do with a parasite. You are assuming they are ingesting the parasite and it immediately affects them. This is absurd. No contagin of parasitic origin (ie biotic) reacts or responds that quickly.

This is sounding more and more implausible.

 

[Opteron]

So - you don't have an infectious airborne intestinal parasite then.

You need to see another kind of Dr to follow through with this:
1) Why you think you have a problem when Dr's have tested you and have told you that you don't.
2) You want to self diagnose and claim you need online diagnosis because you've decided it's airborne and it's going to spread to others.

Actually I do, I'm not mistaken or delusional. Ok, I have two friends from college which I believe I have made sick. One was my roommate. Both complained that their stomach's were hurting for about one week, same thing as me. I haven't directly asked them about this subject, but next time I contact them I'm going to bring up the issue and I will directly ask them, if I have made them sick. I might have also made a third person sick in college, he complained his stomach was hurting for several days or so as well.

I'm definitely not delusional. I have a whole history and timeline of the parasite that makes sense. It's just a consequence of very weird circumstances combined together to create a bad situation. Other people may not believe, but I know what I have seen and felt and I know I'm not delusional.

The parasite condition itself is not that big of a deal but it is infectious, which means other people may get sick.

 

[Opteron]

Your explanations are becoming more and more weird. If your problem is airborne as you say and people are coughing this has nothing to do with a parasite. You are assuming they are ingesting the parasite and it immediately affects them. This is absurd. No contagin of parasitic origin (ie biotic) reacts or responds that quickly.

This is sounding more and more implausible.

No, they cough and potentially ingest the parasitic particle after coughing. Also, not all coughs will result in an infection. Only if they completely ingest the particle it may result in an infection. As I explained earlier, it takes 6 months to 1 year to later get sick. That is the incubation period. That is how long it took me to get sick. I did not claim that they get sick instantly.

 

[tessaesque]

I think you should trust the doctors and I think you should seek psychiatric consultations.

 

[wolfman24]

No, they cough and potentially ingest the parasitic particle after coughing. Also, not all coughs will result in an infection. Only if they completely ingest the particle it may result in an infection. As I explained earlier, it takes 6 months to 1 year to later get sick. That is the incubation period. That is how long it took me to get sick. I did not claim that they get sick instantly.

This is absurd. There is no bacterial or parasitic organism that operates like that or has an growth cycle of this length.
You are talking about a microscopic organism and as such there is no concievable way for it to cause another person to cough by merely ingesting it.

You seem to be unaware of the parasitic life cycle and are in denial when it comes to your ideas about them. You need to talk to a therapist.

 

[mak2]

See post #7. I have had patients come in and "show" me worms growing under their skin. No worms, but I could not convince them of that. I think he probably needs to talk to a Psych Dr, Sounds like he just got out of college and might be having trouble getting out there in the world.

This is absurd. There is no bacterial or parasitic organism that operates like that or has an growth cycle of this length.
You are talking about a microscopic organism and as such there is no concievable way for it to cause another person to cough by merely ingesting it.

You seem to be unaware of the parasitic life cycle and are in denial when it comes to your ideas about them. You need to talk to a therapist.

 

[Opteron]

This is absurd. There is no bacterial or parasitic organism that operates like that or has an growth cycle of this length.
You are talking about a microscopic organism and as such there is no concievable way for it to cause another person to cough by merely ingesting it.

You seem to be unaware of the parasitic life cycle and are in denial when it comes to your ideas about them. You need to talk to a therapist.

WTH you talking about? YOu don't know anything about parasites or its life cycle. Parasites release millions upon millions of microscopic eggs. It then takes time for these eggs to grow from a microscopic egg embryo into the full adult parasite inside the body. That's called an incubation period. Parasites spread by people ingesting their eggs. Every heard of pinworms? I am knowledgeable on this subject and I also have one so I should know.

 

[wolfman24]

See post #7. I have had patients come in and "show" me worms growing under their skin. No worms, but I could not convince them of that. I think he probably needs to talk to a Psych Dr, Sounds like he just got out of college and might be having trouble getting out there in the world.

I agree look at the last sentence of my Quoted post. He seems hypocondriachal. I am no expert but I have some experience with microbial parasites. And they don't act like that.

I also had C. difisil once and that was hell.

 

[lizzie]

Don't want to be a buzzkill but I'm in a bit of a bind and DP'ers are pretty smart and I could use your advice. Don't wanna gross you out but I have a health condition, an infectious disease an intestinal parasite. I got it from travelling a while back. And it has become airborne so that other people could potentially get sick, I hear people coughing and stuff whenever I go out. I've gone to the doctors taken meds, its not much help, the doctors won't even believe me. I'm in my late 20's, pretty much I've graduated college and haven't done much since because of the health condition. So I'm considering working with the condition because I've got to get a move on it. I really don't want to make other employees sick and haven't been working because of that, however I don't have much choice. An update, very recently the situation seems to get better, but I'm not sure if it's temporary or a more permanent trend I'll have to wait and see. Ya so I could use some advice on what to do in this situation like what you would do or some opinion and input. Thanks, -Opteron.

Exactly which parasite, and what effects is it having? The world of parasites is a large one, and it's difficult to have a starting point when we don't know what the organism is.

 

[wolfman24]

WTH you talking about? YOu don't know anything about parasites or its life cycle. Parasites release millions upon millions of microscopic eggs. It then takes time for these eggs to grow from a microscopic egg embryo into the full adult parasite inside the body. That's called an incubation period. Parasites spread by people ingesting their eggs. Every heard of pinworms? I am knowledgeable on this subject and I also have one so I should know.

I am a wildlife biologist and a trained veterinarian tech. So yes I do know what I am talking about. Plus i have two courses in parasitology (one gross one microbe). Your conclusions have no basis in science.

End of message. Please go see a therapist.

 

[Opteron]

Exactly which parasite, and what effects is it having? The world of parasites is a large one, and it's difficult to have a starting point when we don't know what the organism is.

The one I believe I have is intestinal roundworms, don't know what specific type. As far as I can tell they were black in color.

 

[lizzie]

The one I believe I have is intestinal roundworms, don't know what specific type. As far as I can tell they were black in color.

If you believe you have them, why aren't you certain? Intestinal parasites can easily be identified, unless it's some rare form.

 

[Opteron]

I am a wildlife biologist and a trained veterinarian tech. So yes I do know what I am talking about. Plus i have two courses in parasitology (one gross one microbe). Your conclusions have no basis in science.

End of message. Please go see a therapist.

And you haven't disputed anything I said? You just said I have better credentials than you therefore you are wrong. Please read this for starters: Hookworm - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia