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Hawley wraps up the Q'anon vote

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In the second day of her four-day confirmation hearing, Hawley focused on a 2013 case — the United States v. Hawkins. It involved an 18-year-old boy who uploaded child pornography to YouTube and possessed child pornography that involved children as young as 8 years old. His collection included hours of images of children performing sex acts.

Is that when Sen. Graham stormed out? Something about needing to optimize his computer's hard drive.
 

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He's a great example of a shitbag that people use as an excuse to shit on attorneys, especially certain kinds, so of course here he is the one doing the shitting.


“I am questioning your discretion and your judgment… that’s exactly what I’m doing,” Hawley said. “I’m questioning how you used your discretion in these cases.” Hawley repeatedly said he was trying to understand how she made her decision and some of her comments in explaining it. Jackson said she did not remember all of the details of the case, but did call it “unusual.”
Jackson said she takes a number of factors into consideration when considering a sentence, including the federal guidelines, requests from prosecution and the defense, the background of the person who is convicted, probation recommendations, the circumstances of the offense and the stories of victims. She said her sentencing practices are in line with other judges across the country.
“You are questioning whether or not I take them seriously, or whether I have some reason to handle them in a different way than my peers or in a different way than other cases and I assure you that I do not,” Jackson said. “If you were to look at the greater body of, not only my more than 100 sentences, but also the sentences of other judges in my district and nationwide, you would see a very similar exercise of attempting to do what it is that judges do.”


Did he learn that at Yale Law? I'd have thought that like other schools, they gave the initial instruction/training on how to go about lawyering by teaching people that if they're going to criticize judicial decisionmaking with any credibility, they have to actually study all relevant available factors. I'd also have thought they teach students to work out how to determine whether the relevance of one decision to another and its amount.

I would have expected a Yale lawyer to know that if you're going to credibly question a judge's sentencing decisions in the child porn cases, you have to study the sentencing decisions of all similarly situated defendants, then take a gander at ones that aren't so you have a sense of the degree to which cases unlike the ones you want to talk about diverge.




But then, he's a Trumpist. That erases all sense, including one of decency. Of course he is going to piss all over nigh-sacred constitutional protections for those the government seeks to deprive of life, liberty, or property. Of course he's going to shit over someone for doing a job that is absolutely essential to even a semi-just justice system. Of course he's going to do it so ****ing dishonestly.

What a little shitbag. To think he talked about how other people aren't 'manly.'
 

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Is that when Sen. Graham stormed out? Something about needing to optimize his computer's hard drive.

Oooo, trying to play off his "Lady G" nickname to tie homosexuality to pedophilia?

That's real edgy. You totally owned the libs by attacking gay people. You're probably going to get some angry responses. Tres cool. Very very edgy.
 

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Oooo, trying to play off his "Lady G" nickname to tie homosexuality to pedophilia?

That's real edgy. You totally owned the libs by attacking gay people. You're probably going to get some angry responses. Tres cool. Very very edgy.
Everyone knows the gays have sex with children. Better than the old days though, Jews used to eat them.
 

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Oooo, trying to play off his "Lady G" nickname to tie homosexuality to pedophilia?

That's real edgy. You totally owned the libs by attacking gay people. You're probably going to get some angry responses. Tres cool. Very very edgy.

You're the one who brought up gayness. Shaky, very shaky.
 

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Well, with his prurient pandering to Q'anon whack jobs who seem to be obsessed with issues of child pornography and pedophilia, the esteemed Senator Hawley can now rest assured that he has the Q'anon vote wrapped up.

How dare he ask Ketanji about specific cases she presided over.
How dare he ask her why she gave a child porn defendant 3 months jail time.
He should ask her what is in her high school yearbook.
 

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sorry for the CAPS, but that's how the transcript reads.

Sen. Hawley:

"THIS IS A CHILD CASE FOR THE DEFENDANT THIS ROUTED MULTIPLE IMAGES OF CHILD PORN, THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMEND A SENTENCE TO 121 MONTHS IN PRISON.

PROSECUTORS RECOMMENDED 24 MONTHS IN PRISON.

JUDGE JACKSON GAVE THE DEFENDANT THREE MONTHS IN PRISON."


Jackson's response:

"THE GUIDELINE WAS BASED ORIGINALLY ON A STATUTORY SCHEME AND ON DIRECTIVES, SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES BY CONGRESS AT A TIME DIRECTIVES BY CONGRESS - AT A TIME IN WHICH MORE SERIOUS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WERE DEFINED ON THE VOLUME, THE NUMBER OF PHOTOGRAPHS THEY RECEIVED IN THE MAIL PEER. THAT MADE TOTAL SENSE BEFORE WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE THE INTERNET, WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE DISTRIBUTION.

BUT THE WAY THE GUIDELINE IS NOW STRUCTURED BASED ON THAT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES IS LEADING TO EXTREME DISPARITIES IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT’S SO EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GET VOLUMES OF THIS KIND OF MATERIAL NOW BY COMPUTERS."
 

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Is that when Sen. Graham stormed out? Something about needing to optimize his computer's hard drive.
Na

Lindsey had to leave the hearing due to a notification from Grindr, screen name slave4u.
 

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sorry for the CAPS, but that's how the transcript reads.

Sen. Hawley:

"THIS IS A CHILD CASE FOR THE DEFENDANT THIS ROUTED MULTIPLE IMAGES OF CHILD PORN, THE FEDERAL GUIDELINES RECOMMEND A SENTENCE TO 121 MONTHS IN PRISON.

PROSECUTORS RECOMMENDED 24 MONTHS IN PRISON.

JUDGE JACKSON GAVE THE DEFENDANT THREE MONTHS IN PRISON."


Jackson's response:

"THE GUIDELINE WAS BASED ORIGINALLY ON A STATUTORY SCHEME AND ON DIRECTIVES, SPECIFIC DIRECTIVES BY CONGRESS AT A TIME DIRECTIVES BY CONGRESS - AT A TIME IN WHICH MORE SERIOUS CHILD PORNOGRAPHY WERE DEFINED ON THE VOLUME, THE NUMBER OF PHOTOGRAPHS THEY RECEIVED IN THE MAIL PEER. THAT MADE TOTAL SENSE BEFORE WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE THE INTERNET, WHEN WE DIDN’T HAVE DISTRIBUTION.

BUT THE WAY THE GUIDELINE IS NOW STRUCTURED BASED ON THAT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES IS LEADING TO EXTREME DISPARITIES IN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE IT’S SO EASY FOR PEOPLE TO GET VOLUMES OF THIS KIND OF MATERIAL NOW BY COMPUTERS."


This is from a columnist who opposes her confirmation:
" I want to discuss the claim by Senator Josh Hawley (R., Mo.) that Judge Jackson is appallingly soft on child-pornography offenders. The allegation appears meritless to the point of demagoguery."

I imagine it would take a smarter than average person a year of law school to fully understand her answer, but for people like me, the article above elaborates and explains her quote you posted .
 

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Hawley, Cotten and Cruz are special
LOL! The left can make fun and name call and insinuate all they want about republicans but nobody in politics is as big a fool and butt kisser as Joe Biden. I will refrain from talking about a certain VP who is making a joke of that office as well.
 

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LOL! The left can make fun and name call and insinuate all they want about republicans but nobody in politics is as big a fool and butt kisser as Joe Biden. I will refrain from talking about a certain VP who is making a joke of that office as well.

Hawley is so out of touch it is frightening. Cotten can get out of his own way. Cruz is the Hillary of the GOP ie hated.
 

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LOL! The left can make fun and name call and insinuate all they want about republicans but nobody in politics is as big a fool and butt kisser as Joe Biden. I will refrain from talking about a certain VP who is making a joke of that office as well.
That’s silly. Biden is just a tired old hack politician. Garden variety. So middle of the road that he beat Trump in the last election. That tells you which kind of country we live in. We voted for him, because Trump was such a disaster to the majority of us, not because we thought he’d be a great president. We knew he wouldn’t. He’s a George W Bush, or a Jimmy Carter, or a Gerald Ford. He’s a place holder.

I don’t know how any honest person could defend Cruz or Hawley or Greene, or any of the other reactionary hacks on the right or the left, or even bother to make a comparison.
 

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And this whole Supreme Court hearing is just a show, on both sides. Partisan lawyers scoring points from their own sides of the aisle, and pretending they are actually conducting the peoples business. They’re not. They’ve divided into entrenched teams and are just trying to win, for themselves and their teams. Half the reason they’re all doing it is because they don’t want the people to actually see what’s behind the real curtain.
 

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We already have at least one beer guzzling sexual assaulter on the SC counter-balanced by the virgin Mary, Brown-Jackson will be a breath of fresh air.
 

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