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Have you noticed some left wing media pundits are advocating American troops in direct conflict with Russia?

And he can do that because we established safe air corridors in Ukraine or he could do it because he had an incomplete BM in the morning.

It's because we were in a thing called the "cold war". They gave their whole economy over to tech.
They lost. But they still have that technology.
Yes, we could out destroy them. But it's not a win.
There is no win.
 
Well technically they do now since we are supporting Ukrainians with military weapons. That hasn't stopped Putin.

It’s definitely set him back. The Russian offensive on Kviv utterly failed. They’ve taken huge losses in both personnel and equipment, especially their elite forces.
 
It’s definitely set him back. The Russian offensive on Kviv utterly failed. They’ve taken huge losses in both personnel and equipment, especially their elite forces.

Can't argue with that. I still don't think that will stop them though.
 
What the hell, commies? Are you effing crazy?
I'm a baby boomer and still remember the threat of nuclear holocaust. .
Do you?
Who are the left wing media pundits the OP refers to? And really, “commies”? That’s so retro. The current terms of art from the right are socialists, and the new one, pedophile supporters.
 
Well technically they do now since we are supporting Ukrainians with military weapons. That hasn't stopped Putin.
That's tiny support. We need high visibility support.

You put coalition forces on the ground with a CLEAR understanding that their mission is to provide safe supply and evacuation corridors and that's all they are there for then THAT is a red line Putin damned well knows he better not cross. Right now he's running the show over there and Ukraine is playing a protect defense. Free up some Ukraine troops and provision them so that they can take back what's theirs. It would also be a HUGE morale booster to the men and women that are doing the dirty work on the front likes. Knowing that someone else actually has your back is a HUGE psychological boost.
 
It's because we were in a thing called the "cold war". They gave their whole economy over to tech.
They lost. But they still have that technology.
Yes, we could out destroy them. But it's not a win.
There is no win.
Only if it happens, Pappy and in that there are no guarantees no matter what we do.
 
That's tiny support. We need high visibility support.

You put coalition forces on the ground with a CLEAR understanding that their mission is to provide safe supply and evacuation corridors and that's all they are there for then THAT is a red line Putin damned well knows he better not cross. Right now he's running the show over there and Ukraine is playing a protect defense. Free up some Ukraine troops and provision them so that they can take back what's theirs. It would also be a HUGE morale booster to the men and women that are doing the dirty work on the front likes. Knowing that someone else actually has your back is a HUGE psychological boost.
I understand what you say.
The Nazis had no nukes. Churchhill bad a few months to build Spitfires
Now? Not the same.
 
That isn't a solution, that is to let him do whatever he wants. How does that solve anything?
He's already done something stupid like invade Ukraine.
We don't have to kow a solution to point out a stupid idea.
 
What the hell, commies? Are you effing crazy?
I'm a baby boomer and still remember the threat of nuclear holocaust. .
Do you?
I remember the right saying joe is weak concerning putin.

In the meantime, be afraid and duck and cover.
 
So signing an piece of paper is the only thing that makes you okay with being nuked for defending that country?

You didn’t answer my question: if Russia invaded Estonia, would it be worth it to defend them if it meant every East Coast population center getting nuked?
Of course not and nobody sane would think so. But it is worth risking it.
 
My solution is don't corner that crazy bastard into doing something stupid.
Let putin do as he wishes is their solution they are so afraid of putin, then again it fits perfectly into their treasure trove of fear.
 
I'm not sure this strategy came from Joe, but hey, if it did, good on him.
It was more likely more cognitive people at the pentagon, but he did take their advice.
You mean joe's puppet masters?
 
The only thing I'm attacking grandpappy on is the "doing nothing" part. There is nothing good that would come out of us directly involving US troops in Ukraine against Russia. In that I agree with him.
You're not understanding my post. He's accusing liberals of wanting to attack Russia, yet he's calling us "commies". Just pure stupidity from him, as always.
 
What the hell, commies? Are you effing crazy?
I'm a baby boomer and still remember the threat of nuclear holocaust. .
Do you?
Better dead then red!
 
You clowns hate the commie insult. Hahaha. Burn a flag or just say the Pledge of Allegiance wackos.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Stand up and take your hats off, commies.
 
You clowns hate the commie insult. Hahaha. Burn a flag or just say the Pledge of Allegiance wackos.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America.
And to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Stand up and take your hats off, commies.

You realize the original pledge didn’t include “under god” right? Also the pledge says “Indivisible “ but you choose to divide. Hypocritical nonsense. Your actions show you more in alignment with dividing and destroying America than saving it right?
 
You realize the original pledge didn’t include “under god” right? Also the pledge says “Indivisible “ but you choose to divide. Hypocritical nonsense. Your actions show you more in alignment with dividing and destroying America than saving it right?
It isn't necessary that we all think alike to be undivided. A strong nation, one that is truly free, will recognize that a diversity of thought is necessary to achieve lofty goals. Pappy no more seeks to harm this nation or hurt Ukraine that I do but he sees a different path to achieve those things. We may disagree on the method but I don't think either of us disagree on where we want to end up.
 
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