Have you ever worn a Che Guevarra T-shirt?

[Roadvirus]

No. I don't believe in glamorizing terrorists.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Che Guevarra is one of those timeless "heroes" that has spanned every generation, class, age and gender since the 1960s.

I had a Che tee shirt when I was something like sixteen years old....found it at Marco Polo head shop on Wisconsin Ave in Bethesda, MD.
I didn't even know who Che was, but all the "cool kids" wore it so I did too, until l got car differential grease all over it.
If you know anything about cars then you know what differential lubricant smells like, even IF you can remove the stains the odor stays with it forever.
In fact, if you try to throw it in the machine the rest of your laundry will have that acrid smell, so if you get diff-grease on your clothing you might as well toss it in the trash.

 

[PirateMk1]

Che Guevarra is one of those timeless "heroes" that has spanned every generation, class, age and gender since the 1960s.
For 60 years; millions of professors, protestors, political activists, students, celebrities, hippies, moms and dads wore his face.

Undoubtedly.....the most popular Communist of all time!
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The guy was a murderous prick.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Wow! Why don't you tell us how you really feel?

I thought @Felis Leo's quip was funny as Hell, even though I respect his dead seriousness about it.

 

[The flaming lib]

No. But I did once have a roll of Obama toilet paper that I used. That’s kinda the same thing.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

No Che t-shirt, but had friends from Argentina — refugees from the Dirty War — who loved him.

I still have my husband’s book, History Will Absolve Me, the original Spanish text of Fidel’s speech before his imprisonment for his part in the failed attack on the Moncada. I may still have his Spanish edition of Che’s Motorcycle Diaries. (I read the diaries translated into Italian.)

One thing about marrying an older man — daily history lessons on what I was too young to grasp while growing up.

BwaaaaaHAHAHAHAHA....Karen says stuff like that to me all the time.

"So tell us, Old Professor Jeff, what was it like in The Ice Age?" (sample)
"I was in diapers back then, you keep forgetting that you're ancient!"

 

[Chomsky]

I thought @Felis Leo's quip was funny as Hell, even though I respect his dead seriousness about it.

Oh, I'm not knocking it at all!

 

[Chomsky]

I had a Che tee shirt when I was something like sixteen years old....found it at Marco Polo head shop on Wisconsin Ave in Bethesda, MD.
I didn't even know who Che was, but all the "cool kids" wore it so I did too, until l got car differential grease all over it.
If you know anything about cars then you know what differential lubricant smells like, even IF you can remove the stains the odor stays with it forever.
In fact, if you try to throw it in the machine the rest of your laundry will have that acrid smell, so if you get diff-grease on your clothing you might as well toss it in the trash.

Meh - they probably thought is was a Spanish Language Zig-Zag Man t!

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[venice_ca]

BwaaaaaHAHAHAHAHA....Karen says stuff like that to me all the time.

"So tell us, Old Professor Jeff, what was it like in The Ice Age?" (sample)
"I was in diapers back then, you keep forgetting that you're ancient!"

Mostly there were few barbs on my part — except how the heck was I supposed to know the full cast of characters in the McCarthy witch hunts.

Speaking of Che; I mentioned that one of my high school Spanish teachers claimed that he had been an Under-Secretary of Defense under Baptista, and his old boss was now here working in a furniture warehouse. My husband was furious, declaring that both men should be in jail for what they did in Cuba. That mild-mannered good guy persona was just a ruse.

At one point the high school decided that this Spanish teacher should have a school-wide assembly to warn us about the dangers of communism. Almost an hour on decreased sugar production — what a snooze fest.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Meh - they probably thought is was a Spanish Language Zig-Zag Man t!

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I had something like seven or eight different iterations of THAT shirt! Every time I'd wear it to shreds or lose it I'd go find another one.

 

[psikeyhackr]

Have you ever eaten a banana imported by the United Fruit Company?

United Fruit Company - Wikipedia

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Americans are mostly passive consumers who know nothing about the problems created by corporate consumerism. Wearing a T-shirt is nearly meaningless.

Karl Marx mentioned depreciation in Das Kapital dozens of times but he knew nothing about modern consumerism and millions of cars designed to become obsolete. I don't hear modern socialists making a big deal about it.

 

[soylentgreen]

Perhaps I wasn't clear enough, or perhaps you misunderstood, but there was no need for ad hominem personal attack.

The 'it' I referenced was the motivation for the often counter-culture American youth to have an attraction to him. The ideals I expressed were the American ideals of the youth counter-culture.

Which was really nothing more than youthful crap. In the end it was the counter culture that faded away.

But like some short lived fads it left one or two good things behind.

 

[StillBallin75]

"These Che Guevara fans are so stupid don't they know how evil and oppressive Che was???"

- self-unaware hypocrites who start throwing a fit when you point out they worship slaveowners and Confederates

 

[StillBallin75]

Kaepernick liked wearing a shit with his face on it while decrying how terribly oppressive the US is.

Curious you bring up Kaepernick, aren't folks like you always going on and on about cancel culture and lamenting having to suffer consequences for speech?

The real hypocrisy lies in people who call themselves freedom loving libertarians continually worshipping a set of slaveowners, refusing to hold government agents of violence and oppression accountable when in violation of people's rights due to their obsessive police worship, and crying about supposedly open borders that are the furthest from actually open while supporting all sorts of government violence and repression to sustain that lack of openness.

 

[Grand Mal]

Was this during the 'no Americans in Cuba' period... from 1963 until well after Castro's death?

Yeah, it was in '04. There were Americans there who came through Mexico or Jamaica but not many.
Honest truth? The atmosphere in Cuba, where the tourists are mostly Canadians and Europeans, is way different from Jamaica or Mexico or Dominican Republic or anywhere else in the Caribbean. Apparently you guys are allowed to go there now though, is that true? I've seen those travelling food shows in Havana and Santiago de Cuba.

Sorry it took so long to reply to you- for some reason I didn't get notified and just stumbled on it.

 

[Grand Mal]

Does that have to be that explicitly expressed for you to be able to figure out the time frame?

"Nearly overhead of a busy sidewalk in Havana, a steady flow of pedestrian traffic below, and this guy is telling us in no uncertain terms how much better Cuba will be when Fidel and all the revolutionaries die. We were a bit surprised."
"Revolutionaries". Obviously this during the time of the revolution. Who do you suppose it was going to kill 'revolutionary' Fidel, Not 'President' Fidel. Maybe President Batista? And then a little later on in the post another reference to the Cuban revolution appears. - "She spoke of the revolution with great respect and put her hand over her heart when she said 'Che'."

By 'revolutionaries' I meant the people in power who had participated in the revolution. The hope is that when the last of the revolutionaries dies off the country can become more liberal. Kind of like what happened in the Soviet Union after the last of the WW2 vets in government died off.
Sorry if I was unclear.

 

[multivita-man]

Che Guevarra is one of those timeless "heroes" that has spanned every generation, class, age and gender since the 1960s.
For 60 years; millions of professors, protestors, political activists, students, celebrities, hippies, moms and dads wore his face.

Undoubtedly.....the most popular Communist of all time!
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Admit it: deep down inside, you really dig Che.

 

[Top Cat]

Popular not for his communism but for his revolution. People who grew up in the sixties admired the revolution against corporate exploitation and Mafia domination of the government. Bad as the Castro regime has been, the Batista era was just as bad or worse.
Wanna hear a story about that? My wife and I were having dinner at a paladare in Havana. Paladares are private homes licensed to seat twelve customers for meals and they're you best choice. Every one we ate in was pushing that 'twelve' limit. Anyway, we finished our meal and took our bottle of wine out on the balcony to free up the table and chatted with a young architect who was working on restoring a building in Old Havana. Nearly overhead of a busy sidewalk in Havana, a steady flow of pedestrian traffic below, and this guy is telling us in no uncertain terms how much better Cuba will be when Fidel and all the revolutionaries die. We were a bit surprised.
A few days later we rented a car and drove off into the hinterland and stayed in a casa particulare in a small, old town called Trinidad. Cases particulaires are private homes with separate suites licensed to accept overnight tourists. We stayed with Marelli for three nights. She spoke of the revolution with great respect and put her hand over her heart when she said 'Che'. She was a black woman from rural Cuba who could remember how it used to be.
Nothing is just black or white.

My wife and I spent a month in Cuba in 2019. We visited Havana, Trinidad, the Bay of Pigs, Cienfuegos, Santa Clara and (Varadero, best beach ever). Like you we stayed in many Airbnb private residences and and a few hotels. The Blau at Vardadero was stunning. As beautiful as Cuba is and it is all of that, it is the Cuban people and the Cuban culture that blew us away. These people have suffered enormously through hurricanes, drought and starvation. Yet through it all, they still have hope. We adopted a family in the Bay of Pigs. 4 generations living in a 2 bedroom apartment. They were so kind to us. And they had nothing. They don't have relatives in the US to help them. So we send them money to help out. We took an extra suitcase with us full of everyday things we Americans take for granted. It was an honor sharing these simple items with those who desperately need them.

I will go back to be certain.

 

[uptower]

F*** yeah, just to "own the conservitards"!!!

Sound familiar?

 

[Grand Mal]

My wife and I spent a month in Cuba in 2019. We visited Havana, Trinidad, the Bay of Pigs, Cienfuegos, Santa Clara and (Varadero, best beach ever). Like you we stayed in many Airbnb private residences and and a few hotels. The Blau at Vardadero was stunning. As beautiful as Cuba is and it is all of that, it is the Cuban people and the Cuban culture that blew us away. These people have suffered enormously through hurricanes, drought and starvation. Yet through it all, they still have hope. We adopted a family in the Bay of Pigs. 4 generations living in a 2 bedroom apartment. They were so kind to us. And they had nothing. They don't have relatives in the US to help them. So we send them money to help out. We took an extra suitcase with us full of everyday things we Americans take for granted. It was an honor sharing these simple items with those who desperately need them.

I will go back to be certain.

Sounds like your itinerary was much like ours, but we were only 17 days and no Bay of Pigs. Or Veradero.
Wasn't Trinidad great? Those cobble streets and narrow sidewalks with the building walls right up to the sidewalk, that nice little square, we were there at Easter and the whole town turned out and filled that square while groups came out of the church with effigies shoulder-high and paraded through the town.
We stayed in a hotel in Santa Clara that had a wall of glass bricks in the stair and elevator tower that still had bullet holes in them from the revolution. Had a great little bar on the roof that had live music on weekends.
In Cienfuegos we saw horse-drawn buses. Only place we saw that.
Did you drive on the 'Autopista'? It must be 6 or 8 lanes wide with no lanes marked and so deteriorated that It's like boating over a 2-foot chop in places. I think the Russians built it so they could move equipment quickly from one end of the island to the other.
I sure hope things get better for those people, that the society loosens up and opens up but like I said, I hope it doesn't turn into Jamaica.

 

[jpevans]

Che Guevarra is one of those timeless "heroes" that has spanned every generation, class, age and gender since the 1960s.
For 60 years; millions of professors, protestors, political activists, students, celebrities, hippies, moms and dads wore his face.

Undoubtedly.....the most popular Communist of all time!
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I have a Howling Wolf tee, a Frank Morley Band tee, Lazy Lester & Electric Blue & the Kozmic Truth tee.
Anybody wearing Drumpf or let’s go Brandon,tees should stfu about Che.

 

[jpevans]

Was this during the 'no Americans in Cuba' period... from 1963 until well after Castro's death?

He’s Canadian.

 

[Bodi]

Yeah, it was in '04. There were Americans there who came through Mexico or Jamaica but not many.
Honest truth? The atmosphere in Cuba, where the tourists are mostly Canadians and Europeans, is way different from Jamaica or Mexico or Dominican Republic or anywhere else in the Caribbean. Apparently you guys are allowed to go there now though, is that true? I've seen those travelling food shows in Havana and Santiago de Cuba.

Sorry it took so long to reply to you- for some reason I didn't get notified and just stumbled on it.

I have noticed that a few times myself... no notification. All good.

Yeah, we can go to Cuba. I have never been to the Caribbean .

 

[Peter King]

Che Guevarra is one of those timeless "heroes" that has spanned every generation, class, age and gender since the 1960s.
For 60 years; millions of professors, protestors, political activists, students, celebrities, hippies, moms and dads wore his face.

Undoubtedly.....the most popular Communist of all time!
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I am not so sure they see him as a communist, I think his whole attraction was that he was a revolutionary.

 

[jpevans]

He should of stuck to football and let people who don't make $19-million a year, do the protesting.

Protesting is as American as apple pie. It was founded on protest, in fact.