Have in essence the Trump followers given him permission to lie at will?

[independentusa]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

 

[Amelia]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

600? At least one factchecker estimates it as ten times that many "false or misleading claims".

 

[Hawkeye10]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

I am a Truth Teller myself and I am with Jordan Peterson that the nub of the reason that The West Is Dying is that there is not enough truth so this is important......HOWEVER.....most of the people who are seen claiming that Trumps lying and BS Routine is an existential threat to the nation have long been prolific liars themselves (and they demonstrate their immorality in a multitude of other ways as well) , and where Trump is involved they even ramp up their lying.

At this point this routine is comedy.

 

[Saladin4]

I am a Truth Teller myself and I am with Jordan Peterson that the nub of the reason that the West is dying is that there is not enough truth so this is important......HOWEVER.....most of the people who are seen claiming that Trumps lying is an existential threat to the nation have long been prolific liars themselves, and where Trump is involved they even ramp up their lying.

At this point this routine is comedy.

Truth Teller???....2 sentences in...You are lying....What gives?

 

[independentusa]

600? At least one factchecker estimates it as ten times that many "false or misleading claims".

Sorry, that is my dyslexia. I meant over 6000 times.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Truth Teller???....2 sentences in...You are lying....What gives?

I am done with people who cant/wont man-up and make statements.

 

[marke]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

It is the false narratives the lying leftist democrat dogs propagate which makes it appear Trump is the one lying. He is not the real problem, lying anti-American leftists are.

 

[Amelia]

It is the false narratives the lying leftist democrat dogs propagate which makes it appear Trump is the one lying. He is not the real problem, lying anti-American leftists are.

Yep, independentusa, here's your answer. In case you had any doubt.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Yes, they not only have, they don't even care.
"All living former presidents refute Trump's claim they privately voiced support for border wall with Mexico" All they expect is that euphoric drug like feeling that they get when Trump talks.
That's because Trumpism IS A DRUG.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

I am done with people who cant/wont man-up and make statements.

No you're not, you're still here.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

It is the false narratives the lying leftist democrat dogs propagate which makes it appear Trump is the one lying. He is not the real problem, lying anti-American leftists are.

"Truth isn't truth!"

 

[marke]

"Truth isn't truth!"

But if it is the irreligious leftist narcissist will not believe it if it in any way interferes with his wicked lifestyle.

 

[JustHanging]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

I don't think it's so much lies, as Trump is too lazy to spend even five minutes learning about any given subject, so he just spews out whatever he thinks his base want's to hear.

And he learns what his base wants to hear from Hannity, Carlson, FOX and Friends, Breitbart, Alex Jones, etc.

The base always hear exactly what they want to hear, no matter how ridiculous or disgusting, so they love Trump.

 

[Amelia]

Yes, they not only have, they don't even care.
"All living former presidents refute Trump's claim they privately voiced support for border wall with Mexico" All they expect is that euphoric drug like feeling that they get when Trump talks.
That's because Trumpism IS A DRUG.

Those lying leftist Democratic dog presidents (and Bush) gushing to Trump in private just to set him up so that when he mentioned it they could deny it and make him look like a liar.

 

[Checkerboard Strangler]

But if it is the irreligious leftist narcissist will not believe it if it in any way interferes with his wicked lifestyle.

The theocrat has spoken.
Theocracy is 100 percent incompatible with any form of representative constitutional republic, especially a democratic one.
Why are you still here. Saudi Arabia is nice this time of year.

 

[Hawkeye10]

No you're not, you're still here.

There are plenty of people here who can and do man up and make statements.

There are also far too many who behave like children.

Too often slow children.

Not nice children.

 

[Superfly]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

More like 7,000 times in his two years in office.

Edited to add: Sorry. Should have finished the thread first.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

But if it is the irreligious leftist narcissist will not believe it if it in any way interferes with his wicked lifestyle.

Dude, you're a young earth creationist. You calling someone a narcissist who rejects things that interfere with his lifestyle is the most hilarious irony.

 

[Xelor]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Red:
Your figure is but ~10% of his dissemblances during the noted time span.


Blue:
When does he admit having lied? I'm only aware of his "sort of" doing so when he's shown proof of his lies when he's in a deposition. (See also: Trump Under Oath: Sometimes Combative, Often Boastful, Usually Lacking Details) As goes the stuff he says on the campaign trail, in press conferences, briefings and impromptu Q&As, during prepared speeches, AFAIK, he doesn't ever acknowledge that he lied or wrong.

To wit, and re: one of his so-called signature promises, he's now denying have made a declaration he made for years: For years, Trump promised to build a wall from concrete. Now he says it will be built from steel. (Why the hell were all concrete prototypes specified in the CBP's wall RFP? It's damn sure not because the existing bollard fence is made from concrete.) Even as he says that, he's also stated that the all concrete wall wasn't abandoned....And don't get me started on his assertions about Mexico paying for it, which, AFAIC, given his assertions in that regard, he should be negotiating not with Chuck and Nancy, but with Mexican government officials.

• Trump on Border: Maybe They'll Call It "The Trump Wall"

Pink:
It sure seems they have tacitly done so.

 

[tecoyah]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Yes, they have. They seem to be fine with it and even defend it, his lies are also repeated constantly by his staff and media arm (FOX).

 

[OrphanSlug]

So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Yes and no. It will come down to 2020, as the next election is the only real way to hold a politician accountable for their words and actions.

Just supporting Trump during his term is typical party politics is moderately expected. Trump has set the bar even lower for truth and accountability of course, but he is not exactly the first President to come in lying about this or that.

 

[MrShangles]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

He’s doing everything he promised and he’s doing a great job, we’ve never had a politician actually do the things they say they are going to do. Look at democrats for instance, what did they run on during midterms? Great health care? I haven’t heard one word about health care from them cense the election. Wouldn’t you rather have someone to do what they promised or just someone that lies to you to get your vote but after election they just go back to same old games?


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[jnug]

The truth of it is that a pathological liar does not need permission to lie. Lying is his nature and Trump is a pathological liar. He has told buckets of lies daily his entire adult lifetime.

So, while I hate to say it, permission is not the issue here and it never has been. That Trump's loyal hordes just gargle with Trump swill daily might be worth trying to understand. But I don't think discussing Trump the pathological liar in terms of "permission" is likely just driving up a dead end road.

 

[yankintx]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Trumps supporters claim his words don't matter, but they do. When you tell half truths and outright fabrications on Twitter it takes a roll on one's integrity. Take tonight's broadcast, very few will believe him, even if he manages to speak the truth. Guess what Trumpsters, words do matter.

 

[Grokmaster]

Trum acording to some estimates has lied over 600 times between his inauguration and the mid term elections. even when admitting his lies, Trumpsters just say we look at what he does and not what he says. The problem being is that many of his followers actually believe the lies he tells, which is dangerous for the country. So has in essence have the Trump followers given permission for Trump to lie at will?

Bull****. The Fake News/Lying Left MISQUOTES or FLATOUT LIES about what the Pres. actually says, the recent "Trump says military got 10% raise" being the latest example, as he SAID NO SUCH THING.