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Hating Obama is not good enough right wingers.

James D Hill

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It is clear the right wing hates Obama's guts. They have accused him of being a socialist,Islamic and of not being born here. They have fought him at every turn even if they agreed with him. What they have not done is come up with any new ideas. They have not come up with any clear options just the fact they hate him so much. It is going to take more that that my right wing friends. Where are the fresh right wing ideas like the contract with America or Reagans big tent? Without that your party is doomed. The fact that the GOP has let the wing nuts,kook's and far right wing nimrods take over the party does not help either. A party of 50 year old men and Jesus freak females is doomed to fail until somethig changes.
 
It is clear the right wing hates Obama's guts. They have accused him of being a socialist,Islamic and of not being born here. They have fought him at every turn even if they agreed with him. What they have not done is come up with any new ideas. They have not come up with any clear options just the fact they hate him so much. It is going to take more that that my right wing friends. Where are the fresh right wing ideas like the contract with America or Reagans big tent? Without that your party is doomed. The fact that the GOP has let the wing nuts,kook's and far right wing nimrods take over the party does not help either. A party of 50 year old men and Jesus freak females is doomed to fail until somethig changes.

IMV, bills promoting energy independence already sent to the Senate are a viable alternative to the green gambles that have failed...
 
When Paul Ryan presented a budget plan President Obama set him up for a public chastising. This narcissist can't be disagreed with and he is the worst leader in my lifetime. The only reason he was elected is because of the color of his skin.
 
It is clear the right wing hates Obama's guts.
Let me tell you, the Left isn't too enamoured of him these days either. He's burned his bridge at both ends. He's even making George W. appear less autocratic, and less a prisoner of the secret state. From where I sit, he looks a lot like Nixon.
 
IMV, bills promoting energy independence already sent to the Senate are a viable alternative to the green gambles that have failed...

I agree with you on those but as far as the ACA they have come up with nothing other that attacking trial lawers. I am liberal as you know but energy policy is not our strong point for sure. I suport the Keystone pipeline and natural gas. I do think we should invest in green energy also. The fact remains the GOP is more interested in distroying Obama that helping the country.
 
I agree with you on those but as far as the ACA they have come up with nothing other that attacking trial lawers. I am liberal as you know but energy policy is not our strong point for sure. I suport the Keystone pipeline and natural gas. I do think we should invest in green energy also. The fact remains the GOP is more interested in distroying Obama that helping the country.

I believe there were suggestions of knocking down the restriction of interstate availability of insurance.

BTW, how many individuals will still not have insurance once the PPACA goes into effect? I've heard the number will still be about 30M...
 
When Paul Ryan presented a budget plan President Obama set him up for a public chastising. This narcissist can't be disagreed with and he is the worst leader in my lifetime. The only reason he was elected is because of the color of his skin.

That my friend is a bunch of crap. The reson he was elected is the GOP is freaking backward thinking and ran weak candidates who where easy targets for the press and Obama. If he was so bad he would have been beaten by Romney who made the stupid mistake of calling out 47% of the population for being lazy and takers when they where really victoms of Bush's economy. The GOP is in trouble and you know it. Don't play stupid because you are not.
 
I believe there were suggestions of knocking down the restriction of interstate availability of insurance.

BTW, how many individuals will still not have insurance once the PPACA goes into effect? I've heard the number will still be about 30M...

Lets face it AP. We have to pay for those people anyway. All they have to do is go to the emergancy room and we all pay for it anyway. You can not believe all you read and hear on the ACA. The righ hates it so bad they will say anything they can to defeat it. They know that like social security in the 1930's once people start getting it they will learn to like it and that scares the crap out of the right. Remember social security was hated by the right at first like the VA,medicare and medicaid. Once people start getting an intitlement they learn to like it.
 
Let me tell you, the Left isn't too enamoured of him these days either. He's burned his bridge at both ends. He's even making George W. appear less autocratic, and less a prisoner of the secret state. From where I sit, he looks a lot like Nixon.

You may be right but it is too late. He is already elected and the right has failed to distroy him and it is time for them to come up with some new ideas other that hating him.
 
It is clear the right wing hates Obama's guts. They have accused him of being a socialist,Islamic and of not being born here. They have fought him at every turn even if they agreed with him. What they have not done is come up with any new ideas. They have not come up with any clear options just the fact they hate him so much. It is going to take more that that my right wing friends. Where are the fresh right wing ideas like the contract with America or Reagans big tent? Without that your party is doomed. The fact that the GOP has let the wing nuts,kook's and far right wing nimrods take over the party does not help either. A party of 50 year old men and Jesus freak females is doomed to fail until somethig changes.

There have been many bills produced by the republicant majority House that have never been allowed to be voted on in the demorat controlled Senate. Just what exactly has Obama proposed as legislation? Do not say PPACA, that was Reid and Pelosi letting lobbyists supply the detaila, which Obama now ignores. He has never produced a budget that can get passed, even by the Senate. Obama is a moron that has no leadership skills and has thus decided to make law by executive order and selective enforcement of the law. Obama even postponed the "bad" portions of ObamCare, saying that more than 3 years was needed for implementing only those "bad" portions of the PPACA law. Law, to Obama, is merely a formality beneath the dignity of a mighty king.
 
There have been many bills produced by the republicant majority House that have never been allowed to be voted on in the demorat controlled Senate. Just what exactly has Obama proposed as legislation? Do not say PPACA, that was Reid and Pelosi letting lobbyists supply the detaila, which Obama now ignores. He has never produced a budget that can get passed, even by the Senate. Obama is a moron that has no leadership skills and has thus decided to make law by executive order and selective enforcement of the law. Obama even postponed the "bad" portions of ObamCare, saying that more than 3 years was needed for implementing only those "bad" portions of the PPACA law. Law, to Obama, is merely a formality beneath the dignity of a mighty king.

Very few of those ideas where good ideas. Very few of them where original. Most of them involved cutting foodstamps and unemployment benifits during hard times,defunding planned parenthood and many other nasty and mean idea they could come up with. I thought Harry Reed did us all a service blocking those BS ideas.
 
Lets face it AP. We have to pay for those people anyway. All they have to do is go to the emergancy room and we all pay for it anyway. You can not believe all you read and hear on the ACA. The righ hates it so bad they will say anything they can to defeat it. They know that like social security in the 1930's once people start getting it they will learn to like it and that scares the crap out of the right. Remember social security was hated by the right at first like the VA,medicare and medicaid. Once people start getting an intitlement they learn to like it.

Once the federal gov't has to actually raise taxation in order to pay for that entitlement then they either change it or borrow the money. PPACA is rediculous as it imposes a tax on those that do not use the entitlement. PPACA does not get rid of free ER use, in fact, under RomneyCare in MA ER use went up.
 
There have been many bills produced by the republicant majority House that have never been allowed to be voted on in the demorat controlled Senate. Just what exactly has Obama proposed as legislation? Do not say PPACA, that was Reid and Pelosi letting lobbyists supply the detaila, which Obama now ignores. He has never produced a budget that can get passed, even by the Senate. Obama is a moron that has no leadership skills and has thus decided to make law by executive order and selective enforcement of the law. Obama even postponed the "bad" portions of ObamCare, saying that more than 3 years was needed for implementing only those "bad" portions of the PPACA law. Law, to Obama, is merely a formality beneath the dignity of a mighty king.

And you have to live with him for 3 more years.
 
Very few of those ideas where good ideas. Very few of them where original. Most of them involved cutting foodstamps and unemployment benifits during hard times,defunding planned parenthood and many other nasty and mean idea they could come up with. I thought Harry Reed did us all a service blocking those BS ideas.

:lol: :doh I see. If the demorats block "bad ideas" (cutting federal spending) they are simply sticking to principle, yet when the republicants block "bad ideas" (raising federal spending) then they are obstructionists. :roll:

I note that you have yet to name these "good ideas" that Obama has introduced as legislation, or defended his dictatorial use of executive orders and selective law enforcement. The job of leader is establishing priorites and deciding how best to allocate existing resources, not simply tossing cookies to all of his supporters and putting their cost on the nation's tab.
 
I agree with you on those but as far as the ACA they have come up with nothing other that attacking trial lawers. I am liberal as you know but energy policy is not our strong point for sure. I suport the Keystone pipeline and natural gas. I do think we should invest in green energy also. The fact remains the GOP is more interested in distroying Obama that helping the country.

The right has come up with the only acceptable akternative, 40 times. Get rid of this POS legislation before it destroys the entire economics of the country. Even Obama agrees. That is why he has delayed implementation of much of it, and exempted thousands of would be participants, including himself, Congress, and the staffers.

It is Reid who refuses to bring the alternatives to a vote, or make an alternate proposal.
 
Lets face it AP. We have to pay for those people anyway. All they have to do is go to the emergancy room and we all pay for it anyway. You can not believe all you read and hear on the ACA. The righ hates it so bad they will say anything they can to defeat it. They know that like social security in the 1930's once people start getting it they will learn to like it and that scares the crap out of the right. Remember social security was hated by the right at first like the VA,medicare and medicaid. Once people start getting an intitlement they learn to like it.

No, once someone gets something for free (not including SS and Medicare here) from a politician, then it is impossible to get a politician to take it away...
 
I believe there were suggestions of knocking down the restriction of interstate availability of insurance.

BTW, how many individuals will still not have insurance once the PPACA goes into effect? I've heard the number will still be about 30M...

The last CBO report I saw indicated that after 10 years of implementation, there will still be between 30 and 50 million Americans without health insurance. Obama likes to bleat about Republicans not wanting Obamacare because they don't want 30 million poor people to have insurance but he conveniently ignores his own plan's projections.
 
The last CBO report I saw indicated that after 10 years of implementation, there will still be between 30 and 50 million Americans without health insurance. Obama likes to bleat about Republicans not wanting Obamacare because they don't want 30 million poor people to have insurance but he conveniently ignores his own plan's projections.

As most politicians ignore facts that they do not like.

Good evening jcj...
 
The last CBO report I saw indicated that after 10 years of implementation, there will still be between 30 and 50 million Americans without health insurance. Obama likes to bleat about Republicans not wanting Obamacare because they don't want 30 million poor people to have insurance but he conveniently ignores his own plan's projections.

Post it please.
 
Good evening V1.1 - I hope all is well and things have been gradually returning to normal on the home front for you and your family.

Everything is back to normal, or is that the new normal? Really, everyone is doing well. Thank you for your concern...
 
You may be right but it is too late. He is already elected and the right has failed to distroy him and it is time for them to come up with some new ideas other that hating him.
The right has many good ideas, but you won't hear any of them on ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN or PBS. That is why the left hates Fox News so much.
 
That my friend is a bunch of crap. The reson he was elected is the GOP is freaking backward thinking and ran weak candidates who where easy targets for the press and Obama. If he was so bad he would have been beaten by Romney who made the stupid mistake of calling out 47% of the population for being lazy and takers when they where really victoms of Bush's economy. The GOP is in trouble and you know it. Don't play stupid because you are not.

I don't think it is a bunch of crap. There are several reasons why Obama won in an electoral land slide. I think the biggest is the color of his skin. If he had to run on his record alone it would have been no contest because his record does not exist beyond being a consummate politician. The media loved him and the GOP was afraid of him, because of the color of his skin and the implications of being labeled racist.
I will agree about the Bush economy at the end, it was a disaster and he set Obama up perfectly. Perfectly in that Bush started the bail outs and Obama expanded on them, Obama was in a no lose situation he was a hero if everything came together and it was because it was so much worse than they thought if it didn't. Obama and his band of vipers chose the later.
And you are right about another thing, the GOP is in trouble and I do know it. Concerning Romney and his 47% kerfuffle, context is everything and the most ignored pretext. Be it Obama, Bush or whoever, the news outlets that have an agenda will spin context so that all that matters is the words. You and I both know that leads to misinformation. Be it Dan Rather, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Rachel Maddow, Chris Matthews or whoever.
 
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