Montecresto
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Any country that gives up it's own defense reliant upon the West and USA are true fools. This has been shown over and over. If Israel gives up it's defensive buffer as Obama and Western countries - plus as Israel's sworn enemies - demand, the Jews of Israel are doomed.
What is it that Israel does when they regularly engage in the activity that they call "mowing the lawn?"
So you're still another Holocaust minimizer declaring the genocide of Jews by the millions equates to the situation of the Palestinians. No surprise you would totally trivialize the holocaust with your messages. None whatsoever.
You mean like Obama's drone strikes and unilateral war against Libya?
Lol. What typical bull****. You consider nuclear weapons to be defensive weapons.:lamo
You a supporter of that too?
All weapons of any kind are both offensive and defensive. There is no difference.
Nuclear weapons are the most powerful weapons ever conceived. Since Israel has had them not one country has again attacked Israel in a mass military invasion. Your message is so ludicrous it is clear that rationality is irrelevant to your messages, just anti-Israel slogans.
That's your Democrats warmongering.
Ask Native Americans how "land for peace" assurances by the US government worked for them?
Ask the few remaining Jews survivals of the holocaust how "land for peace" worked out for their murdered relatives?
Giving up "land for peace" is always a sucker's play, nothing else.
Here's something of interest
William Kristol has made the following boast
Has support for Israel become the new GOP litmus test?
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/28/us/politics/republicans-criticize-james-baker-for-speech-on-benjamin-netanyahu.html?_r=0
What do you mean mine, I'm a critic of both regime change in Libya as well as the predator drone program. How about you?
I guess you can see why Iran may want them then. Lol, nuclear weapons have no defensive value whatsoever.
You singularly called GOP leaders "warmongers."
I didn't speak about that. However, given their sufferings during the holocaust, its a tragedy that they would hold Palestinians in what so many (including the PM of the UK) consider to be prison camps. Keep cheering that.
And they are "warmongers".
In case you so quickly forgotten last decade.
Cotton is clearly on record calling for military action versus negotiations.
Another unforced error that would be welcomed by me if it wasn't so damned dangerous .
I favor military action if that prevents Iran from nuclear weapons. Why? Iran's civil and religious leadership has vowed the genocide of Jews in Israel. Therefore Iran should not be allowed to have them. It is that simple to me.
"Negotiations" of themselves are nothing. Here, all divorce cases require mediation and negotiate before trial. Does that avoid trial? Usually not. Does it make peace between the couple, usually not.
Negotiate what? The date for the elimination of Israel? From all reports in terms of details, the only goal of Obama is to assure that Iran does not set off a test nuclear weapon while he is still in office. Afterwards he and Democrats can blame it on the next president, the Republicans or whoever.
Personally, I favor the most crimpling sanctions possible to cut off funds, shatter Iran's economy and use this to support toppling the current government, plus all other means to do so.
If military action was necessary to take out a specific production facility? I would want the USA to provide every possible support to Israel to take out that target.
Finally, if the ONLY way to prevent Iran obtaining nuclear weapons was full scale war like Gulf War 1? I would support doing so.
Now it's your turn. If Germany had not declared war on the USA and the only way to stop the holocaust and stop German advancement into other countries was the USA going to war against Germany, would you want the USA to go to war against Germany or not?
I think you know that the sad reality is that the U.S. would not enter the war to stop the holocaust. Heck they even refused to divert some bombers to blow up the ovens in the camps.
And after the war it was learned Churchill proactively did not want Germany to release Jews in the camps to the UK.
They are in those conditions because the Muslims/Arabs keep attacking Israel!! It is not any more complicated than that. How are Israelis supposed to trust any of them with the constant attacks, tunnels and wars?
You mean like Obama's drone strikes and unilateral war against Libya?
No GOP support unless you kiss Bibi's behind.
Can absolutely see what Iran wants them. Do you dispute that Iran wants nuclear weapons?
Being in a "prison camp" means prohibited from leaving. Do Jews prohibit Palestinians from leaving? Palestine's area is not surrounded by Israel. And the concept of a 7400 square mile prison is just declaring a slogan, not a reality.
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