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HAPPY FOURTH OF JULY!!!

PSA for all those with out there with their own "fireworks".

 
feels like a funeral and not a celebration
 
Yes, Happy Fourth of July!!!

Since we did not ask to be born in this country, we should be thankful that we were.

Of the hundreds of nations in this world, the United States of America is certainly one of the less bad nations.

Surely, generally speaking, we ordinary nobodies have more opportunities here than in Latin America or Africa or Asia.

While there are still many injustices in this nation, the little guy/gal here is treated better than in most other nations.

And as a lot of immigrants have shown, it IS often possible to become very prosperous through hard work -- and good luck.

We should all be proud of being Americans. Someone I know is especially happy because just this year he became an American. (His country allows dual citizenship.)
 
Yes, Happy Fourth of July!!!

Since we did not ask to be born in this country, we should be thankful that we were.

Of the hundreds of nations in this world, the United States of America is certainly one of the less bad nations.

Surely, generally speaking, we ordinary nobodies have more opportunities here than in Latin America or Africa or Asia.

While there are still many injustices in this nation, the little guy/gal here is treated better than in most other nations.

And as a lot of immigrants have shown, it IS often possible to become very prosperous through hard work -- and good luck.

We should all be proud of being Americans. Someone I know is especially happy because just this year he became an American. (His country allows dual citizenship.)
I wholeheartedly agree, and to add to the list we should be thankful to live in a country where we have freedom and rights, including the freedom and right to KEEP AND BEAR ARMS!
 
Given what happened in Highland Park today this is tone deaf at BEST.

If people saw the victims being killed first hand then they'd be better able to understand the urgency of the gun control situation. Some TV news viewers were traumatised by 9/11 because they could actually see real people jumping off the towers. It's a bit of a dilemma for the media enterprises where showing too much graphic violence could look invasive towards the privacy of the dead and injured victims. Morbid content could also be misused by bad people to glorify the atrocities. On the other hand abstract reports of the casualties might be seen by unimaginative individuals more as a mere statistic than a crisis.

"Six people were killed and 36 wounded when a gunman opened fire on a crowd gathered for parade in Chicago suburb."
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/7/5/highland-park-shooting-what-where-and-who
 
Thought provoking op-ed on the 4th - July 4th: Whose Independence Day is it?

The Fourth of July always brings to mind a line from the much acclaimed independent Indigenous movie, Smoke Signals, when one of the characters commenting on the holiday refers to it as the “White People’s Independence Day.” Indeed, when the Euro-American colonists on July 4, 1776 declared their independence from Great Britain, the Indigenous of what was to become the United States were already independent and had been so for thousands upon thousands of years. In the Declaration of Independence, Indigenous people are referred to as “merciless Indian savages.”

As for Black people, on July 4, 1776, they were still enslaved, in the most savage system of bondage in the history of humanity. Many of the so-called “founding fathers” who sat down and signed the Declaration of Independence were slaveholders. The cruel irony of the 4th was not lost on the renowned Black abolitionist and former slave, Frederick Douglass, when, in July 1852, to a mostly white audience in Rochester, N.Y., he posed this question: “What, to the American slave, is your Fourth of July?

Moreover, as for Indigenous people, the Declaration was a green light initiating a war of genocide against the Indigenous nations of this land. In the Southeast, the long and bloody Cherokee-American War started on July 20, 1776—just 16 days later—because of colonist aggression. The military genocide, generated by a merciless, cutthroat capitalism, that began with July 4th roared well into the end of the 19th century.
 
Given what happened in Highland Park today this is tone deaf at BEST.
And since it happened in Illinois which is one of the least gun friendly states in the country where they have no respect for the 2A, it just goes to show that gun control doesn't work.
 
And since it happened in Illinois which is one of the least gun friendly states in the country where they have no respect for the 2A, it just goes to show that gun control doesn't work.

Gee bud, first off when you are surrounded by states like Indiana and Wisconsin it makes it all the more easy for gun obsessives to break the law, so crying “gun control doesn’t work” when it’s laughably easily to just cross over the border to states with less restrictive laws is pretty amusing.

Secondly, nobody is obligated to “respect” America’s gun delusions in the first place, and likewise nobody’s obligated to be “friendly” to guns in the first place. Deal with it.
 
Gee bud, first off when you are surrounded by states like Indiana and Wisconsin it makes it all the more easy for gun obsessives to break the law, so crying “gun control doesn’t work” when it’s laughably easily to just cross over the border to states with less restrictive laws is pretty amusing.
And you can't buy handguns and take them from the store in a state that you're not a resident of, not legally. If you buy a handgun in a state you don't live in you have to have it sent to an FFL dealer in your home state and pick it up from the FFL dealer in your state while complying with all the gun laws of your state when you go to pick it up. As for long guns you might or might not be able to take them from the store with you if you don't live in the state where you buy them depending on what state you live in and depending on what state you're buying them in. Its not so simple as crossing into another state, buying all the guns you want, and crossing back, there's more to it than that.
Secondly, nobody is obligated to “respect” America’s gun delusions in the first place, and likewise nobody’s obligated to be “friendly” to guns in the first place. Deal with it.
Nobody's asking you to be friendly to guns, just be friendly to those who choose to exercise their 2A rights and don't give them a hard time for exercising such rights.
 
And you can't buy handguns and take them from the store in a state that you're not a resident of, not legally. If you buy a handgun in a state you don't live in you have to have it sent to an FFL dealer in your home state and pick it up from the FFL dealer in your state while complying with all the gun laws of your state when you go to pick it up. As for long guns you might or might not be able to take them from the store with you if you don't live in the state where you buy them depending on what state you live in and depending on what state you're buying them in. Its not so simple as crossing into another state, buying all the guns you want, and crossing back, there's more to it than that.

Nobody's asking you to be friendly to guns, just be friendly to those who choose to exercise their 2A rights and don't give them a hard time for exercising such rights.

None of which changes the fact that Illinois is surrounded by states which are far more lenient on guns, which directly hampers its own policies. Therefore going “gun control doesn’t work” when neighboring states are actively complicit in helping skirt the laws is utterly nonsensical.
 
ban assault airplanes?

Private aircraft and helicopters are legal. Spend your life savings on a chopper, attach a few semi-auto rifles to the sides, and voila; you've got yourself a military vehicle. The NYPD initially thought it was a light aircraft that crashed into the first tower on 9/11 which goes to show the potential danger of unregulated aircraft. It would be difficult to enforce gun bans on personal helicopters seeing as they can pretty much land anywhere.

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Aerial Sniper • U.S. Marine Corps


"Mexico has seized 599 airplanes and helicopters linked to the Sinaloa Cartel alone, according to the newspaper. That's nearly five times the size of Aeromexico's fleet, although again, most of the Sinaloa Cartel's aircraft are on the smaller size—Cessnas (the most popular), Gulfsteams, and Pipers, among others."
https://www.vice.com/en/article/vv7...-has-more-planes-than-mexicos-biggest-airline
 
Perhaps gun control advocates are promoting the policy wrongly. Half-measures could simply end up prolonging a fundamentally failed self-defence system. If we granted the NRA their wish where machine guns were legal for open carry, then the mass shooting casualties would be so high that no one could deny the validity of gun control. Let the gun rights groups make their own impassioned case for why machine guns and rocket launchers should be banned. It seems like many people merely tolerate a ban on such heavy weaponry rather than support the ban enthusiastically.

"Ashton Packe, a now-retired Las Vegas police sergeant, says gunman Stephen Paddock accidentally locked himself out of a side room where he was storing his heaviest artillery, reported Law&Crime. According to Packe, investigators believe Paddock may have been planning an ambush on law enforcement."
https://www.police1.com/active-shoo...rsenal-retired-officer-says-daBm52Od1K4dt7by/
 
None of which changes the fact that Illinois is surrounded by states which are far more lenient on guns, which directly hampers its own policies. Therefore going “gun control doesn’t work” when neighboring states are actively complicit in helping skirt the laws is utterly nonsensical.
And the fact that Illinois is surrounded by such state is irrelevant since Illinois residents can't get guns from such states anyway.
 
None of which changes the fact that Illinois is surrounded by states which are far more lenient on guns, which directly hampers its own policies. Therefore going “gun control doesn’t work” when neighboring states are actively complicit in helping skirt the laws is utterly nonsensical.
Furthermore the shooter in Highland Park bought the gun he used in Illinois.
 
Furthermore the shooter in Highland Park bought the gun he used in Illinois.

None of which changes the fact that Illinois is surrounded by states which are far more lenient on guns, which directly hampers its own policies. Therefore going “gun control doesn’t work” when neighboring states are actively complicit in helping skirt the laws is utterly nonsensical.
 
None of which changes the fact that Illinois is surrounded by states which are far more lenient on guns, which directly hampers its own policies. Therefore going “gun control doesn’t work” when neighboring states are actively complicit in helping skirt the laws is utterly nonsensical.
And that is a moot point considering the shooter got his gun in Illinois.
 
And that is a moot point considering the shooter got his gun in Illinois.

It’s not a moot point in the slightest considering the fact thousands of guns get trafficked in from out of state. A couple more traffickers got busted only a couple weeks ago.


Which makes your squealing about “gun control not working” rather meaningless.
 
It’s not a moot point in the slightest considering the fact thousands of guns get trafficked in from out of state. A couple more traffickers got busted only a couple weeks ago.


Which makes your squealing about “gun control not working” rather meaningless.
And as the Highland Park shooter showed, you don't need to get a gun that's been trafficked into the state if you're going to be a shooter in Illinois, but aside from that we need better law enforcement if we want to stop such stuff. The police should've stopped him from going up on the roof and shooting all those people.
 
And as the Highland Park shooter showed, you don't need to get a gun that's been trafficked into the state if you're going to be a shooter in Illinois, but aside from that we need better law enforcement if we want to stop such stuff. The police should've stopped him from going up on the roof and shooting all those people.

Gee, if that were the case there wouldn’t be so many incidents of guns being trafficked in in the first place.
 
Gee, if that were the case there wouldn’t be so many incidents of guns being trafficked in in the first place.

Except Indiana is like right there handy to Chicago, and Chicago is where a lot of criminals live. Indiana too. Ever think the gun traffickers come from Indiana?

While you're thinking about that (if you do), perhaps you can explain what it is about Indiana gun laws that allows Illinois criminals to more easily obtain guns from Indiana than from Illinois.
 
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