Hamas to Raze 180 Gaza houses to erect Islamic Religious center

[justabubba]

and having been elected, they then went on a rampage, killing their opposition in execution style killings.

did not realize you had such a soft spot for the members of fatah
your concern for their wellbeing is duly noted

I do not know where and when you studied civics, and I realize by your many postings that indicate such that you are a big supporter of Hamas, but that isn't exactly how actual democracy is supposed to work.

interesting position to take for one who subscribes to the position abbas should be recognized as the spokesmodel for the Palestinian people ... especially since his elected term ended long ago, when he issued a decree extending his "presidency". that self-serving extension was for an indefinite period beyond the term for which he was elected - recognizing he is now unre-electable
i take it by your support of his remaining in office after the period for which he was elected indicates how you believe democracy is supposed to work

 

[Demon of Light]

There is no controversy with the outcome of the January 2006 electoral results. The issue arises with respect to the June 2007 coup under which Hamas seized control of the Gaza Strip via force of arms, not through the Palestinian constitution's provisions.

The only coup that month was launched by Abbas and selectively quoting the Palestinian constitution does not make your case any stronger. There are specific provisions regarding the state of emergency and Abbas violated them, most notably the requirement that it only last a short time with any extension requiring the Legislature's approval and actions during the state of emergency being subject to review by the Legislature. Abbas has not honored these provisions and continued the state of emergency indefinitely.

If Hamas had issues with the Palestinian government, it could have worked through the legislative process to declare "no confidence."

The government was led by Hamas. A no confidence vote would be meaningless. Abbas and Fatah were the issue as they were using the internal security forces, which were under the authority of the Council of Ministers and thus the Prime Minister Haniyeh, to go after Hamas.

But that's not what happened in the Gaza Strip. Instead, it undertook an extraconstitutional coup, which violated Articles 6 and 49, which deal respectively with the rule of law and legislators' oath to uphold the law.

What of the Fatah forces that engaged in a campaign of abductions and assassinations outside any legal authority? The President has no authority over police forces, that responsibility lies with the Interior Ministry and ultimately the Prime Minister. He had no authority to send the police after Hamas.

In sum, Hamas acted to seize control of the Gaza Strip via means not permitted in the Palestinian constitution.

It only seized control as a result of actions by Fatah and Abbas that sought to use the police, dominated by Fatah though technically under the authority of the Hamas-led government, against Hamas forces. This was in essence a civil war between two factions of the government and so while we can argue over the legality and who shot first only one group has removed the government illegally and that would be Fatah. To call the actions of Hamas a coup is pure propaganda with no basis in reality.

and having been elected, they then went on a rampage, killing their opposition in execution style killings.

Fatah was doing the same thing. Why is Fatah off the hook?

I do not know where and when you studied civics, and I realize by your many postings that indicate such that you are a big supporter of Hamas, but that isn't exactly how actual democracy is supposed to work.

Recognizing bull**** propaganda as bull**** propaganda is not equivalent to support for the target of said bull**** propaganda. I am just strongly against bull**** propaganda.

 

[mbig]

did not realize you had such a soft spot for the members of fatah
your concern for their wellbeing is duly noted


interesting position to take for one who subscribes to the position abbas should be recognized as the spokesmodel for the Palestinian people ... especially since his elected term ended long ago, when he issued a decree extending his "presidency". that self-serving extension was for an indefinite period beyond the term for which he was elected - recognizing he is now unre-electable
i take it by your support of his remaining in office after the period for which he was elected indicates how you believe democracy is supposed to work

Actually I think what's called for now is pan-Palestinian elections to decide who is/are the leaders of 'palestine'.
Extensive use of International observers a must. Arab speakers among them.

So that Israel can have negotiations for peace with one party with ONE position.
OR have palestinians decide (referendum) they want 3 states and Israel can deal with them separately.

Neither Hamas nor Fatah however may agree to the above.. in which case you/we do have 3 state limbo.
The current plan; a 'unity Govt' deal brokered by Egypt- which hasn't yet worked and then let Hamas and Fatah bang it out over a Single position.
But someone, with a singular view and authority has to be in charge.
If Hamas or it's view prevail you can say goodbye to peace as they aren't flexible at all as to terms as Abbas is.

Not that Netanyahu will offer a palatable compromise, as Ohlmert did, to whichever view prevails.

Peace prospects more dismal than any time in the last few decades.

 

[Vader]

The Palestinian people elected Hamas in elections we not only backed but hailed as free and fair so the notion that Haniyeh is not a legitimate leader kind of suggests you either disagree with the system that brought him to power or think it should only bring certain people to power.

Hanieyeh is HAMAS... HAMAS is a terrorist group. Do the math dude.