There you have it. The end goal of Hamas. The reason they started this war in the first place. Probably the worst "I told you so" I've ever had the misfortune of delivering.
What a sad world we live in where recognizing a terrorist organization and giving in to its demands is considered worth the extra clicks you can get to bring traffic to your site, or the extra votes you can gin up in your home country, simply by amplifying the word "genocide" on social media.
Hamas are scum, murdering scum. Anyone supporting Hamas is of the same ilk.Hamas Leaders Cite October 7 Massacre as Impetus for International Support for Palestinian Nation
In an Al-Jazeera interview over the weekend, Senior Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad openly credited the October 7 terrorist attack with forcing Western nations to recognize a Palestinian state, declaring that “the initiative by several countries to recognize a Palestinian state is one of the 'fruits of October 7th.'"
Here is his actual quote:
"The powerful blow that was delivered to Israel on October 7 has yielded three very important historic achievements. First of all, it brought the Palestinian cause back [to center stage]. Why are all these countries recognizing Palestine now? Had any country dared to recognize the state of Palestine, prior to October 7? The overall outcome of October 7 forced the world to open its eyes to the Palestinian cause, and to act forcefully in this respect. [They recognize now] that the Palestinian people deserve freedom and their own state."
"The second thing is that the whole world believed that the occupation state is a beautiful democratic country and suffering from oppression and persecution. Today, I believe that the whole world has become convinced [otherwise], and that the mask has fallen from Israel's face. The whole world is acting against Israel. The rallies and festivals in America, Britain, France, and Germany talk about the genocide. Who would have thought that the PM of the occupation state would become wanted by the ICC, and so would the [IDF] Chief of Staff. Israel is now accused of genocide and ethnic cleansing. All of those things were revealed about Israel."
"The third thing is that people who thought that defeating Israel is difficult [realized] today that it is very easy. Today, through October 7, we proved that defeating Israel is not as difficult as people had thought."
There you have it. The end goal of Hamas. The reason they started this war in the first place. Probably the worst "I told you so" I've ever had the misfortune of delivering.
What a sad world we live in where recognizing a terrorist organization and giving in to its demands is considered worth the extra clicks you can get to bring traffic to your site, or the extra votes you can gin up in your home country, simply by amplifying the word "genocide" on social media.
I agree. And Hamas has complicated this solution. It should no longer be possible to have a two-state solution so long as Hamas rules what remains of Gaza. But they are starting to get more and more of the world on their side, such that it seems increasing likely that it may be possible to achieve a two-state with Hamas in power. I know several posters on this site who would welcome that. The carnage resulting from the war has turned everyone against Israel, which was the whole intent of 10/7 in the first place.STFU Hamas you murderous bastards.
A two state solution has long been a proposed solution for the region.
Hamas Leaders Cite October 7 Massacre as Impetus for International Support for Palestinian Nation
In an Al-Jazeera interview over the weekend, Senior Hamas political bureau member Ghazi Hamad openly credited the October 7 terrorist attack with forcing Western nations to recognize a Palestinian state, declaring that “the initiative by several countries to recognize a Palestinian state is one of the 'fruits of October 7th.'"
Here is his actual quote:
"The powerful blow that was delivered to Israel on October 7 has yielded three very important historic achievements. First of all, it brought the Palestinian cause back [to center stage]. Why are all these countries recognizing Palestine now? Had any country dared to recognize the state of Palestine, prior to October 7? The overall outcome of October 7 forced the world to open its eyes to the Palestinian cause, and to act forcefully in this respect. [They recognize now] that the Palestinian people deserve freedom and their own state."
"The second thing is that the whole world believed that the occupation state is a beautiful democratic country and suffering from oppression and persecution. Today, I believe that the whole world has become convinced [otherwise], and that the mask has fallen from Israel's face. The whole world is acting against Israel. The rallies and festivals in America, Britain, France, and Germany talk about the genocide. Who would have thought that the PM of the occupation state would become wanted by the ICC, and so would the [IDF] Chief of Staff. Israel is now accused of genocide and ethnic cleansing. All of those things were revealed about Israel."
"The third thing is that people who thought that defeating Israel is difficult [realized] today that it is very easy. Today, through October 7, we proved that defeating Israel is not as difficult as people had thought."
There you have it. The end goal of Hamas. The reason they started this war in the first place. Probably the worst "I told you so" I've ever had the misfortune of delivering.
What a sad world we live in where recognizing a terrorist organization and giving in to its demands is considered worth the extra clicks you can get to bring traffic to your site, or the extra votes you can gin up in your home country, simply by amplifying the word "genocide" on social media.
STFU Hamas you murderous bastards.
A two state solution has long been a proposed solution for the region.
How is anyone going to stop Hamas from having a role moving forward?Had Israel not continued starving Palestinians in Gaza, do you think the world would still react the same way?
The world is not supporting Hamas, because not all Palestinians in Gaza are Hamas, and I have not seen any country claim Hamas can have a role moving forward.
The world is not on their side. The world is pushing for recognition of a Palestinian state while emphasizing Hamas must be disarmed and can play no governance role.But they are starting to get more and more of the world on their side
Palestinians turned down the offer or Hamas did?And the Palestinians have turned down every offer starting with the Peel Commission in 1937.
In 2008 Israel offered them about 95% of the West Bank and a secure corridor between it and Gaza.
Why?The Palestinian Authority did.
Hamas are murderous sociopaths that deserve to be eradicated.
Israel is carrying on a campaign of genocide in Gaza.
Both things can be true.
How is anyone going to stop Hamas from having a role moving forward?
The PA president says it was because he wasn't allowed to keep the map he was shown. In reality, both sides were still negotiating the particulars, with hardliners on both sides demanding more concessions for their side. When the Israeli prime minister was indicted and lost power, the peace offer stalled as hardliners took over on the Israeli side who objected to the deal that was heavily in favor of Palestinians.Why?
Palestinians turned down the offer or Hamas did?
I do not support starving anyone in Gaza. Nor do I support bombing innocent Palestinians civilians.Are you then supporting starving and bombing what is left in Gaza to be sure that Hamas can't have a role?
The UN force would do the exact same thing Israel is doing, because there is no other way to fight a heavily armed terrorist organization that is dug in amongst a densely populated civilian population. Chances are a UN force would end up with more Palestinian casualties, not less, because the IDF knows Hamas and knows the territory better than a bunch of foreigners would.I'd be happy if a U.N. force was sent in and didn't hold back on engaging with anyone trying to destabilize the situation. Sounds like a far better idea than watching innocent humans starve to death.
None of the offers were given to Hamas. In 1937 and 1947 they didn't even exist.
Are you then supporting starving and bombing what is left in Gaza to be sure that Hamas can't have a role?
I'd be happy if a U.N. force was sent in and didn't hold back on engaging with anyone trying to destabilize the situation. Sounds like a far better idea than watching innocent humans starve to death.
Hamas is getting exactly what they wanted. Every dead civilian is another nail in Israel's coffin in terms of their image on the world stage.
Now there's a truckload ofThe photos everyone else seems to keep finding reliably turn out to be people suffering from severe genetic and other disorders that make their body look emaciated.
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