Haditha uncovers the ugliness of the War Party

[jfuh]

Unfortunately this instance has not been getting much attention in the media nor in the states today. However this issue has a potential to blow up greatly in the face of US efforts to win the hearts of those in the Middle east.

Before the typical hate and anti-liberal speech that goes on in many of these threads, let me remind everyone of the variance between us and them, those we fight.
The US is the only country in the world where the military swears to protect the constitution and laws of the country, not the reigning monarch, president, government so on. The other exception would be the Republic of China - which is a quasi state, and the Defense force of Japan, not a military.

What we did wrong first was trying to cover it up. The press secratary for the Marine corp first brushed it off called the rumor of Haditha as more AQ propaganda.
Only now, criminal charges are being brought up against the marines invovled in this instance.
This is another Mailai Vietnam all over again. The difference here is that this has the potential to blow up 1000X more then Mailai in Vietnam
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[ANAV]

As I've said in the past, lets not rush to judgement. The matter is being investigated and the fact will be brought to light. The investigation was already in progress prior to the media jumping all over it.

If the involved marines are found to have committed wrong doing, then I'll be the first to hope for swift, harsh punishment. But I choose to wait until the investigation is over prior to casting my personal judgement on those in harms way.

 

[oldreliable67]

Unfortunately this instance has not been getting much attention in the media nor in the states today.

Where have you been? This is getting all kinds of attention. You didn't see Murtha's comments, among others? All major MSM outlets have carried stories, yet you choose to link to AlJazeera, possibly the most biased organization on the planet today? Good grief.

While it is unquestionably painful for those who support our military to read of instances like this, lets not forget one very basic fact: when these things happen, and they inevitably happen in wartime, no matter how noble the cause, our system identifies the participants and investigates. Those found guilty are punished. Something conveniently ignored by Aljazeera.

BTW, its "My Lai".

 

[jfuh]

Where have you been? This is getting all kinds of attention. You didn't see Murtha's comments, among others? All major MSM outlets have carried stories, yet you choose to link to AlJazeera, possibly the most biased organization on the planet today? Good grief.

While it is unquestionably painful for those who support our military to read of instances like this, lets not forget one very basic fact: when these things happen, and they inevitably happen in wartime, no matter how noble the cause, our system identifies the participants and investigates. Those found guilty are punished. Something conveniently ignored by Aljazeera.

BTW, its "My Lai".

I pick Aljazeera for the purpose of that is what the ppls of that region are watching. Our news outlets can report all they want and so on, but it's not the american ppl's hearts that the administration is trying to win over. It's the ppl over there.
On this site there's only been so much mention of the instance. Punishment for those invovled is a minimum.

This is very reflective of "my lai", Cnn says Mailai, It's not time to point fingers and say who's at fault. But what aside from prosecuting criminally those invovled should we do to prevent this from happening.
Such instances are stress related. Too much pressure and ppl crack. Psychiatrists have documented this for decades.
I believe that as with mylai, the soldiers themselves don't know what it is they are doing there. There's no clear goal in sight they just go out and patrol while sitting as targets to be taken out.
Let's not beat around in the hedge about this. More troops to secure the areas are needed. Overwhelming force is the only way to resolve it. It puts less stress on front line soldiers, the dominance factor kicks in and so on.
Set an exit time, if they need more assitance, that's what the UN is for, they have thier constitution and thier governmental leaders, now they need to take charge of thier own country that we, unlike any other in the world, are now leaving back to them after we took out thier dictator.

 

[oldreliable67]

More troops to secure the areas are needed. Overwhelming force is the only way to resolve it.

And with that, I totally agree. Politically impossible, but exactly what is needed.

 

[jfuh]

And with that, I totally agree. Politically impossible, but exactly what is needed.

Sad isn't it?

 

[ANAV]

I pick Aljazeera for the purpose of that is what the ppls of that region are watching. Our news outlets can report all they want and so on, but it's not the american ppl's hearts that the administration is trying to win over.

You mean you pick the news outlet that posts and reports false stories and captions like this one;

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50648

OK, I understand now, thanks for clearing the up for me.

 

[Trajan Octavian Titus]

So I suppose the findings in the report have been filed? No?? Well then why don't you give our marines the benefit of the doubt?