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Guns don't kill people, Vice Presidents who play with guns do, or almost...

KidRocks said:
I will, as soon as you admit that Bush and Cheney are idiots who have no business running this great country.

Except that I don't think that. In fact, I think just the opposite. So why would I admit that? And more importantly, how does that relate to the topic?

Now, speaking of the topic. Do you honestly think the best way to show your disatisfaction for your President and Vice President is to spin this accident into an attempted murder? Is this really the way you want to show your liberal pride? I mean, it's exactly what I would expect from you, but can really say it with a straight face, kidrocks?
 
KidRocks said:
I know diddly squat about hunting etiquitte but it seems to me that you don't assume that no one is behind you when you are ready to discharge a deadly weapon. Was Mr. Whittington invisible to everyone around Cheney?
Do you have some problem typing "Cheney Whittington" into Google?...:roll:

CNN said:
Cheney, an avid hunter, was shooting at a covey of quail on the Armstrong Ranch near Kingsville, about 30 miles southwest of Corpus Christi. The ranch's owner, Katharine Armstrong, said Whittington was about 30 yards from Cheney when the vice president fired.

Armstrong, who was with the group when the accident occurred, said Whittington was "peppered" with birdshot. Pellets hit him in the face and chest, but he never lost consciousness, she said. (Watch how a witness described the accident -- 6:34)

She said Whittington had just shot a quail and had dropped back to retrieve it. He was hit upon rejoining the group and "apparently came up unannounced" as Cheney prepared to fire.

Similar accidents occur "not frequently, but often" among hunters in the area, Salinas said. He said an ambulance that was posted at the ranch while Cheney was visiting took Whittington to the hospital.

Armstrong said Cheney was firing a 28-gauge shotgun, a small-bore weapon commonly used for hunting birds. Cheney has come to her ranch to hunt quail once a year for at least 15 years, and she called him "a very conscientious hunter."

"I would shoot with Dick Cheney everywhere, anywhere, and not think twice about it," she said. But she said, "The nature of quail shooting ensures that this will happen. It goes with the turf."
As you can see...or could've saw earlier had you done a search yourself...everyone was under the impression that Whittington wasn't around because he left to retrieve his quail...He was shot from 30 yards away because he didn't announce he was back in the area...

Funny how no one goes around saying how race car drivers, being among the best in the world at driving race cars, are idiots or foolhardy when they crash or cause others to...:roll:
 
KCConservative said:
Except that I don't think that. In fact, I think just the opposite. So why would I admit that? And more importantly, how does that relate to the topic?

Now, speaking of the topic. Do you honestly think the best way to show your disatisfaction for your President and Vice President is to spin this accident into an attempted murder? Is this really the way you want to show your liberal pride? I mean, it's exactly what I would expect from you, but can really say it with a straight face, kidrocks?


Is that what you think? That Cheney attempted to kill Mr Whittington?
 
KidRocks said:
Is that what you think? That Cheney attempted to kill Mr Whittington?
Of course not. It's your thread, Dick Tracy.
 
cnredd said:
Do you have some problem typing "Cheney Whittington" into Google?...:roll:

As you can see...or could've saw earlier had you done a search yourself...everyone was under the impression that Whittington wasn't around because he left to retrieve his quail...He was shot from 30 yards away because he didn't announce he was back in the area...

Funny how no one goes around saying how race car drivers, being among the best in the world at driving race cars, are idiots or foolhardy when they crash or cause others to...:roll:


Oh great, "under the impression" huh? Is that anything like "assuming"?

He left to retrieve his quail and everyone forgot that he was coming back, or maybe they assumed that he was never coming back. He just dissappeared off the radar screen.
 
He left to retrieve his quail and everyone forgot that he was coming back, or maybe they assumed that he was never coming back. He just dissappeared off the radar screen.
You obviously know nothing about hunting, especially quail hunting. You're supposed to let your hunting party know where you are at all times, especially when you leave them and are rejoining them.

Although painful, a 28 guage shotgun, probably using #8 shot, is hardly a deadly weapon at 30 yards.
 
Gill said:
You obviously know nothing about hunting, especially quail hunting. You're supposed to let your hunting party know where you are at all times, especially when you leave them and are rejoining them.

Although painful, a 28 guage shotgun, probably using #8 shot, is hardly a deadly weapon at 30 yards.


So, I have to let everyone know where I am at all times otherwise I am possibly a dead man walking? Hmmm, sounds like fun this quail hunting!
 
KidRocks said:
So, I have to let everyone know where I am at all times otherwise I am possibly a dead man walking? Hmmm, sounds like fun this quail hunting!

Now you're catching on.

Now how about answering my question. Is it your assertion that Cheney purposefully shot his friend?
 
So, I have to let everyone know where I am at all times otherwise I am possibly a dead man walking? Hmmm, sounds like fun this quail hunting!

Absolutely right!! And no, you don't sound like the type that would enjoy it. Stick to your computer or x-box.
 
KCConservative said:
Now you're catching on.

Now how about answering my question. Is it your assertion that Cheney purposefully shot his friend?

Not my assertion at all but... only Cheney knows for sure. Why don't you ask him?
 
KCConservative said:
It's good to see that even you can see how ridiculous the thread is.


My title infers that people who play with guns can kill or be killed. My title infers that the Vice President of the United States of America shot someone with a deadly weapon, irregardless whether it was an accident or not. My title infers that guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people...or in this case almost kills people.

My title infers that guns can kill!

Ok?
 
KidRocks said:
I know diddly squat about hunting etiquitte but it seems to me that you don't assume that no one is behind you when you are ready to discharge a deadly weapon. Was Mr. Whittington invisible to everyone around Cheney?

That is one thing I don't get. Where were Cheney's Secret Servicemen?
 
Goobieman said:
1: Man gets shot
2: Liberals laugh

If there's ever been a better illustration as to the true nature of liberal "compassion", I've not seen it.
So how come the Office of the VP didn't release the story? Why the silence? The story was published 18 hours after the incident by a local paper...nothing from Cheney or Bush. How come?

Turns out Cheney also didn't have the proper stamp to hunt quail.

How come this guy didn't immediately release the news? Why the coverup?
 
aps said:
That is one thing I don't get. Where were Cheney's Secret Servicemen?
They were right there and attended to the victim until an ambulance could arrive.
 
26 X World Champs said:
So how come the Office of the VP didn't release the story? Why the silence? The story was published 18 hours after the incident by a local paper...nothing from Cheney or Bush. How come?

Turns out Cheney also didn't have the proper stamp to hunt quail.

How come this guy didn't immediately release the news? Why the coverup?
Why do you assume coverup? I heard it reported that it was the victim and his family who asked that it remain private.
 
26 X World Champs said:
So how come the Office of the VP didn't release the story? Why the silence? The story was published 18 hours after the incident by a local paper...nothing from Cheney or Bush. How come?

Turns out Cheney also didn't have the proper stamp to hunt quail.

How come this guy didn't immediately release the news? Why the coverup?

How is any of that relevant to a remark about the liberal "compassion" displayed here?

And you people get upset when we say that you pray every night to hear the next morning that someone was shot. You dont give a rats ass about the guy who was shot -- you just want to jump on Cheney.

So, are you a little or a lot disaapointed that it was another adult and not a child that was shot?
 
KCConservative said:
They were right there and attended to the victim until an ambulance could arrive.
How come the White House did not report the story to the Press KC? How come Cheney was hunting without a license?

I guess if you're illegally wiretapping little things like hunting stamps really have no meaning or value.
 
KCConservative said:
Why do you assume coverup? I heard it reported that it was the victim and his family who asked that it remain private.
I see! So not reporting the news is decided by the victm - please provide a link to backup what you "heard."

Are you going to tell me that the Vice President shooting someone is not newsworthy right away? Surely even your blinders are not that thick?

Why the stonewall? What's the real story?
 
26 X World Champs said:
How come the White House did not report the story to the Press KC? How come Cheney was hunting without a license?

As to not reporting it, I answered your question above. The victim, a friend of Cheney, asked for it to remain private. If you don't like that answer, then take it up with him.

As for the license, you are the first one I have heard say he didn't have a license. Have you got a link?
 
26 X World Champs said:
Are you going to tell me that the Vice President shooting someone is not newsworthy
I do believe it to be newsworthy. Never said it wasn't.
 
Goobieman said:
How is any of that relevant to a remark about the liberal "compassion" displayed here?

And you people get upset when we say that you pray every night to hear the next morning that someone was shot. You dont give a rats ass about the guy who was shot -- you just want to jump on Cheney.

So, are you a little or a lot disaapointed that it was another adult and not a child that was shot?
What are you talking about? You cite my post and then you write bullshit that I never wrote, suggested or hinted at!

I simply asked why the stonewall? How is it possible that this story was never reported by the White House until they were outed?

Nowhere did I write or suggest that I enjoy someone else's suffering at the end of a gun. I can't understand why anyone who knows anything about liberalism would suggest that we rejoice in violence? What you're doing (weakly I might add) is paroting basic Republican talking points about Liberals. It's like when you or others write that we do not support the troops or we want them to fail, its all the same bullshit over and over again.

From where I sit it's the Republican's who start wars, love guns, are pro-death penalty and against entitlement programs. That means that Liberals are against unjustified (not all) wars, are PRO-GUN control, anti-death penalty and pro entitlement programs so those most in need get help.

Hmmm? Republicans are for all the violence stuff and Liberals are against all the violence stuff yet you write that I and my compadres rejoice in someone getting shot? You obviously know $hit about being Liberal....
 
KCConservative said:
As for the license, you are the first one I have heard say he didn't have a license. Have you got a link?
Here's a link to Google that has multiple stories reporting that Cheney lacked the proper hunting license, take your pick.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1614924

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/nation/20060213-1704-cheney.html

http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/breakingnews/021306cheney_citation

Just search for "Cheney didn't have hunting stamp"
 
In probably one of the most ironic twists you will ever see.... I am about to actually take the side of the White House on this issue.

THere is no need to cover up a simple hunting accident. THey happen all the time. ALbeit I agree that Cheney is trigger happy... this was merely an accident. If it had been some sort of conspiracy then chaney would have loaded something other than birdshot and it would really have been covered up.

There is no news here people. Move along.
 
26 X World Champs said:
What are you talking about? You cite my post and then you write bullshit that I never wrote, suggested or hinted at!
You cited -MY- post and wrote bullshit that -I- never wrote or hinted at.

I simply asked why the stonewall? How is it possible that this story was never reported by the White House until they were outed?
Like I said - You cited -MY- post and wrote bullshit that -I- never wrote or hinted at.

Nowhere did I write or suggest that I enjoy someone else's suffering at the end of a gun. I can't understand why anyone who knows anything about liberalism would suggest that we rejoice in violence?
And yet, thatt's exactly what you;re going -- a guy got shot and all you care about is how much anti-Cheney political hay you can make.

What you're doing (weakly I might add) is paroting basic Republican talking points about Liberals. It's like when you or others write that we do not support the troops or we want them to fail, its all the same bullshit over and over again.
Guess what? YOU are showing how accurate my characterization was! Thanks for the help!

So, I ask again:
Were you more or less disappointed that Cheney shot an adult instead of a kid?
 
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