Mr.America
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I thought that this would be an interesting topic to talk about.
Are you for or against gun control? Why? :thinking
Are you for or against gun control? Why? :thinking
for the sake of everyone on the board it would be nice if you would look up the definition of gun control. the definition should state that gun control is an action taken by a government (also known as a law) stating who can or can not own a firearm and can also limit the type of firearm. now i appalogise for thinking that a law restricting jews from owning firearms would fall under the catagory of gun control. what was i thinking(note the sarcasm).heyjoeo said:I'm sorry, I have to come out of the dark from World of Warcraft for this one. What are you smoking? How is Hitler's banning of jews with firearms have to do with gun control? Hitler had a standing army on every corner. That's completely false logic. Please, think before you spit out thesis statements for a poorly supported paper.
i wasnt lecturing you, i was pointing out an instance where your misguided point of view was false. and now it seems that rather than find facts to back up your ideas you attack my grammer to chande the subject.heyjoeo said:Personally, a person that does not use proper grammar capitalization, and poor spelling should never try to lecture me on anything. Of course Hitler making a law to ban guns for Jews is gun control. However to make the assumption that gun control leads to genocide, you'd have to be a complete moron
CSA_TX said:Well heyjoeo I guess from your post that had you been around at that time you would have been exterminated. You would have calmly gotten in line and waited for it to be over. I would rather have a chance and take a few with me. If its going to happen might as well go down fighting. I guess just a difference in opinion. I feel sorry for you that you don't feel your life is worth defending.
I own guns, hell I even sell guns in my business. But Nazi Germany is a terrible example of your point. In Germany it was the Jewish population, by and far, that the Nazi's were sending off to the "camps." The Jew's weren't a gun owning crowd. Many of the jewish people who did end up fighting the Nazi's in places like the Warsaw Ghetto had no idea how to use a firearm, hadn't learned, many had never even seen a gun. Well until the Nazi's pointed one at them away. So to say that the guns laws in Germany lead to the genocide really doesn't add up. Now maybe if Jew's had owned guns...jcueckert13 said:i wasnt lecturing you, i was pointing out an instance where your misguided point of view was false. and now it seems that rather than find facts to back up your ideas you attack my grammer to chande the subject.
Nazi Germany was not the only instance where gun control led to genocide. Other examples are:
Turkey established gun control in 1911.
From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
The USSR established gun control in 1929.
From 1929 to 1953, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
China established gun control in 1935.
From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated by their own government.
Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
Uganda established gun control in 1970.
From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
From 1975 to 1977, one million "educated people", unable to defend themselves, were exterminated.
now feel free to dispute these figures but from now on try to stay on the subject at hand instead of getting pissed that someone less educated that the almighty HeyJoeo can actually support his point of view.
Thank you for the compliment. Yes I am a good ol boy and wear the badge with honor and pride. Always want to help my country.your good ol boy paranoid outlook is probably the thing that keeps the US going
It is very unfortinate but we do not live in a perfect world. There are members of society that have no moral fiber that beleive it is ok to rob, rape, and kill just for the sake of robbing, raping, and killing. I refuse to be a victom. My tool used to protect myself, my possessions and my family from these deaviants of society is a firearm. My life and that of my loved ones are worth defending from societies scum."Life worth defending" How in hells name does owning a gun defend your life? What is there in Texas that so requires a gun to defend youself
True my gun will not protect me from a car crash however that is why I drive a big truck . Better odds of surviving a crash in a bigger heavier vehicle also helps keep up my good ol boy persona. My gun may not protect me from a house fire however that is why I have multiple fire extigusers so I can try to protect my house and belongings. My guns and ammo are stored in a fire proof gun safe so in the event of a house fire my life defending equipment will be protected and if I am not home then they will not be stolen.It wont save you from a car crash (statistically most likely to kill you) or a house fire
I don't know however I chose to be prepared just in case.Does anyone seriously beleive that in their lifetime a revolution/invasion will come where people will have to rise up with their own guns?
No it won't save me from a car crash. But then again if I fell out of an airplane I wouldn't be wanting for seat belt now would I? I'd want a parachute. If a drug addicted loser breaks into my house at night I wouldn't want a parachute. I'd reach for my seat belt. No wait! I mean my Glock.Tetsuo said:Me and Michael Moore don't see eye to eye on a great deal but here is a prime example of where me and him do. The American conciousness is in a great number of cases that there is some unseen enemy always out to get you and that guns are an essential part of defending that freedom.
"Life worth defending" How in hells name does owning a gun defend your life? What is there in Texas that so requires a gun to defend youself? It wont save you from a car crash (statistically most likely to kill you) or a house fire. And the government is quite happy letting people shoot each other and then locking them up for it because while everyone is so busy thinking that criminals, terrorists, communists and muslims are out to get them the people in power are getting richer and richer. Does anyone seriously beleive that in their lifetime a revolution/invasion will come where people will have to rise up with their own guns? Thats why our taxes pay for the military.
The bottom line is that people who are scared consume more and in a capitalist society that can be nothing but a good thing, your good ol boy paranoid outlook is probably the thing that keeps the US going, more's the pity.
You control the English language? Well I'll say this- at least you don't appear childish in your control.heyjoeo said:Ha, call me a child, I'm the one who has control over the English language. I'm sorry, but aggressive dicators are not good examples about why gun control is bad. That's just silly. Personally, me vs hundreds of troops isn't going to do much, with a gun or not. Sure it would be "glorifying" if I died fighting, what's the difference? The outcome is the same.
Anyway, examples of when gun control works. Well, do you think the child who couldn't find daddy's gun because he couldn't buy one and thereby the child's life is saved would be in the paper? No.
I have just one question: What do you think of tribal soverignty in the 21st century? (See George Bush)
Ever heard of the statement "guns don't kill people - people do". If this child you are refering to really wants to die - daddys gun safe being locked will not stop him/her.Anyway, examples of when gun control works. Well, do you think the child who couldn't find daddy's gun because he couldn't buy one and thereby the child's life is saved would be in the paper? No.