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Guantánamo detainee resurfaces in terrorist group




See, my eyes started bleeding as soon as I scanned your post and realized you are on the "blame Clinton for Osama" band-wagon. I am not even drunk anymore don't make my eyes bleed. These partisan cheap-shots make me sick "Bush unleashed Osama!" "No! Bush got the danger that Clinton left intact" "No! Wait! Bush Sr was in the region at one point, screwing around just blowing up the entire Iraqi military, it's his fault" "No! It was Jimmy Carter and his CIA goonies who trained and supplied Mujahideen!"

The rest makes sense.

I don't see the point in pointing out he who failed. With the exception of the whole CIA arming thing, that was a bit ridiculous in my opinion, way too much fear over Leninism.
 

I'll believe Bush sooner than what non-Americans will say. He has to live here, so he's going to be a tad more concerned.

Also it seems to me, that you are willing to give a far more legal rights and access to the legal system, than you are a bunch of men that you have only the word of a fascist Bush administration that they are "dangerous".

It's the Bush Admin. not the fascist Bush Admin. These detainees are not American citizens, so they don't have to get the same access as citizens would, but many of them could well be "child rapists, a mass murder and other criminals" because usually if you do very hate-filled things in one area you'll do it in all areas. Criminals are criminals.


Hey, if they got released that means they haven't been forgotten. Kids can be considered adults for various offenses in the US. A judge will make that decision based on the severity of the crime. Kids can kill, so I don't feel sorry for them. Usually kids can reason well before the age of 8.

Yes there are bad men at Gitmo, but if the US has proof that they are bad.. put them on trial.

Different rules apply for these detainees. They aren't citizens, but they may also not be considered POW's, so this is not a super easy thing to decide what to do.


You know some countries might just accidently kill them. Now that would be more like fascism. Innocent people do get caught up in situations that can be uncomfortable. This is a fact of life. I'd say in old Iraq if a reporter threw his shoes at Saddam he would end up in a wood chipper. Bush smiled about it, and joked. Wonder if Obama would do the same. I bet not, but who knows. You want the US government to be especially courteous to people who have acted in ways that were possibly harmful to US citizens. Most are there for a reason. You can't say that they all are completely innocent. There were like 14 men involved in 9/11 that killed almost 3,000 people, so I think it's definitely better to err on the side cautiousness.


We know this, but it works both ways. Sometimes murderers get off, but it's pretty rare. Sometimes innocents get caught up because of the company they keep. If you are hanging with your best buddy and he decides to kill some guy who owes him $10, you are guilty by association. The triggerman takes all his buds with him if they are with him in the commission of a felony.


This is his choice. People validate what they do in many different ways. It's just as easy to turn yourself around and learn from your mistakes, and be grateful you still have a life left to live.


This is a vast exaggeration. Terror isn't a myth, it's a fact. A woman slapping her kid might get charged with child abuse. A person robbing a bank is committing robbery. A person smuggling drugs is a drug smuggler. Someone who carries a bomb onto a plane is a terrorist. Same goes for any weapon with the intent to commit terror. There are names for a gazillion different crimes and terror has it's own way to be defined as such.
 
OK. I have read this thread, and here is what I see:

1) There is a huge debate in this thread about whether Obama is soft on terrorism, because one of the released detainees showed up at a terrorist training camp.

2) The rabid dogs of the GOP smear machine (Yes, those roaches haven't been stomped out......YET) are using this issue to smear Obama.

3) Much of the information presented by the smear machine is debatable, with no hard sources. I am not talking about this particular case, but the point that they are making that there are 61 of them, a point drudged up on the Sunday talk shows.

But guess what? I am willing to give Limbaugh, O'Reilly, and Drudge the benefit of the doubt. For my final point, let's assume that what they are saying is true.....

4) The terrorist was not released by Obama. In fact, Obama had not even taken office. He was released by George Bush!!

Republicans are soft on terror!!
 
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