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Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order

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Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?
 
Wasn't Hoover the one who wore women's underwear?
 
Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?

Those were the good days. Back when sexual perverts were not allowed in the federal bureaucracy, and the government still had some morals.
 
Wasn't Hoover the one who wore women's underwear?

yeah like a lot of overbearing busybodies, he was blackmailed to keep his own peculiarities hidden. He gave the mafia as much free reign as he could, out of fear he'd be exposed. He even told reporters he didn't believe the mafia existed...all while zealously collecting dossiers on researchers like kinsey and coordinating with local cops to sabotage the careers of thousands of people. Quite the selfless justice warrior the fbi was founded by and still honors with a plaque

But at the rate of things, in 100 years it will be torn down just like andrew jackson is experiencing
 
Well, we all like the Gays now-a-days...
 
Those were the good days. Back when sexual perverts were not allowed in the federal bureaucracy, and the government still had some morals.

Those were the bad old days, when gays were vulnerable to blackmail because of social bigotry. Thankfully, gay people can now work at sensitive, classified jobs without worry of being outed by criminals, spies and traitors.
 
Those were the bad old days, when gays were vulnerable to blackmail because of social bigotry. Thankfully, gay people can now work at sensitive, classified jobs without worry of being outed by criminals, spies and traitors.

By that reasoning, we need to abolish all social and legal stigma, so that no one can ever be blackmailed.
 
Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?

Times have changed, people would be better off looking ahead, there is nothing in the rearview mirror.
 
:roll: Another witch hunt. How far are we going to go back and hold people accountable to day's standards? Are we going to recall all the Eisenhower silver dollars?
 
:roll: Another witch hunt. How far are we going to go back and hold people accountable to day's standards? Are we going to recall all the Eisenhower silver dollars?
History must be purged of all things the SJWs don't like.
 
Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?

In all honesty I can see why, back then at least, it was prohibited---being homosexual was considered one step up from being a "minion of hell" and opened you up to being blackmailed by foreign intelligence services.
 
Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?

Who really cares? If such happened then it happened over 60 years ago and last I knew Hoover and Eisenhower were dead. This is a non-issue and such is not applied anymore. More than likely this is nothing more than ambulance chasers looking for a payout. Learn from the past, don't live in it.
 
Group seeks records tied to Eisenhower anti-gay order - CBS News

A gay rights group sued the Justice Department on Wednesday for failing to produce hundreds of pages of documents related to a1953 order signed by President Dwight Eisenhowerthat empowered federal agencies to investigate and fire employees thought to be gay...

Suspicions of homosexuality led to between 7,000 and 10,000 workers losing their jobs in the 1950s alone...

Under a "sex deviate program" put in place by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover...

including all correspondence involving Warren Burger, a senior Justice Department official tasked with helping enforce the order who later become chief justice of the Supreme Court...

The FBI has invoked multiple exemptions to the public records law, including a provision that protects against the disclosure of classified information for national security reasons- an assertion Thompson said he "particularly troubling" because national security was the rationale of the order in the first place..."


So...how can this in any seriousness be about national security 50 years later? I'm assuming the FBI is just trying to save face, while trying to derail an attempt to bring closure to one of the darkest periods of witch hunts in american history that seems to have deeply involved all levels of government. Of course, it doesn't make eisenhower look so great either

Maybe they fear an uproar to get hoover's name removed from the building?

Im confused on the purpose of this investigation being done by the gay rights groups.

What possible reason would they have for obtaining this information that would be worth wasting money on a lawsuit?????

Its not like they can sue for discrimination based upon any firings, those people are most likely deceased at this point.
 
If science is today considered the end-all-and-be-all of wisdom and knowledge, and the science of the day back then still considered homosexuality a generally deviant behavior, and people were following the science of the day, then said people should get a pass.
 
If science is today considered the end-all-and-be-all of wisdom and knowledge, and the science of the day back then still considered homosexuality a generally deviant behavior, and people were following the science of the day, then said people should get a pass.

Oh. Homosexuality is a "deviant" form of behavior and our science seems to be increasingly capable of explaining how the deficiency is caused. But that does not tell us how we should treat homosexuals. That is driven by culture, ethics and law.
 
By that reasoning, we need to abolish all social and legal stigma, so that no one can ever be blackmailed.

I'm down with that!

Too bad that the first post of yours that I've ever liked is tongue in cheek sarcasm.

:2wave: :2wave: :2wave:
 
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