LMFAOL!! Someone who actually works in SIGINT tries to give you a real f clue how shyt works and you dismiss him. Typical. Blah blah 1984, blah blah Big Brother, blah blah, am a victim, blah blah... You guys are hilarious! Get a clue.
You get a clue: people don't like being spied on.
As to what OWO says, it's anecdotal. Unless he can provide actual evidence, he, as well as you, can shove it. You're not fooling anyone.
Thats the problem: You assume you're being spied on. You fail to realize that the huge amounts of information that are collected and need to be analyzed wouldn't allow for someone to just sit around and spy on all 310 million Americans.
Your incredulity aside, information on all of us is being collected without our ****ing permission.
Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records | Fox News
So how do you feel about this? Do you think that this dragnet that ensnares us all is necessary and just? How about Constitutional? Does it make you feel safer? What is the natural progression from here?
Make sense or zip it.
If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.Weird how actual legal experts disagree with you guys. Almost like it isn't at all cut-and-dried like you guys would like to think it was. Hmmm.
Huh? Those controls have nothing to do with him. He was never able to target anyone. He was a ****ing computer guy lol. All he knew was that the program existed. He wasn't an analyst- certainly not a collector- nor was he an administrator of either. He wasn't important. He might as well have been a cook.
He has nothing to do with controls.
If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
You speak the truth without recognizing it.LOL now that took some serious thought...
If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
hackers are able to do a lot of damage with a simple computer.
It's not really true. It's like saying anyone can steal something from a store. Sure, you can do it, but you're gonna get in trouble.
If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
Unless, of course, the whole reason for having the ability is to use it.This. Ability to abuse does not mean authorized to abuse.
Given that - as an government employee - every friggin keystroke you make on a government computer is taggable, I'm betting just going in unauthorized and starting too look up the email traffic of the brother-in-law you don't particularly like is going to get you nabbed fairly quickly.
What an interesting use of absolutes. So, for example, if I were engaged in smuggling children for sex-slave purposes, you would argue that the FBI should not be allowed to tap my phone or observe my movements in order to bring me down?
At that point where a warrant has been sought after and given by an impartial judge then it is no longer spying. It is police work.
We are NOT subjects. Our government does NOT have the right to spy on us. This must stop. Or we will have a second declaration of independence. Armed insurrections have happened here. One can happen again.
And yet apparently they work very nicely on US citizens.Why does everyone keep assuming its about THEM? Do you understand that these programs were not designed for DOMESTIC purposes??
Unless, of course, the whole reason for having the ability is to use it.
At that point where a warrant has been sought after and given by an impartial judge then it is no longer spying. It is police work.
It's best to just put OldWorldOrder on ignore. He's just here to distract from the issues at hand.
Your incredulity aside, information on all of us is being collected without our ****ing permission.
How incredibly silly. Surely you realize the fact that the political ideology you refer to extends into the economic and social realms as well, not to mention the important distinction between passive monitoring and dictating. This sort of binary reasoning discredits your position immediately.If there is one moment or one issue that people ought to be able to shed ideology and come together on, this is it. You can't support data mining and claim NOT to be a fascist at the same time. You just can't.
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