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Greatest U.S. President

What Is The Greatest U.S. President?

  • George Washington

    Votes: 3 8.3%

  • Thomas Jefferson

    Votes: 2 5.6%

  • Abraham Lincoln

    Votes: 10 27.8%

  • Ulysses S. Grant

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Theodore Roosevelt

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Woodrow Wilson

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Calvin Coolidge

    Votes: 1 2.8%

  • Franklin D. Roosevelt

    Votes: 7 19.4%

  • John F. Kennedy

    Votes: 5 13.9%

  • William J. Clinton

    Votes: 6 16.7%
  • Total voters
    36
douglas4123 said:
There are some rather great presidents on that list and several that have been left out. Washington did a great job in starting the country, and Lincoln helped free the slaves which was a great feat. However I voted for Kennedy, one because I have always been a fan, and two he actually did quite a good job in the way of international relations even though he had much less time to work with then any of the other men on the list.
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Okay, which ones you think were left out, and God help you if you say Reagan or Bush. As for Woodrow Wilson, why do you people not respect him, he was only thing that got the U.S. into World War I.
 
Lets not forget that Clinton presided over the longest period of growth in US history... that has to count for some thing? Maybe there should be separate polls for favourite war leader, economic leader, human/civil rights leader.
 
GarzaUK said:
My poll? It isn't my poll, I didn't post this poll or mention Clinton and Kennedy.
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Sorry still getting used to how this forum treats threads and messages.

GarzaUK said:
If you rate simple black and white president's as great then Reagan and Bush are up as the greatest then.

I heard somewhere that Kennedy wouldn't have been considered great if not assasinated during office.
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He was looking very seriously at being a one term President for a number of reasons. His one major act, the tax cut, was actually quite a conservative move. And he did inspire the space program although any president in office would have had the same opportunity, it was "THE SPACE AGE"!
 
douglas4123 said:
There are some rather great presidents on that list and several that have been left out. Washington did a great job in starting the country, and Lincoln helped free the slaves which was a great feat. However I voted for Kennedy, one because I have always been a fan, and two he actually did quite a good job in the way of international relations even though he had much less time to work with then any of the other men on the list.
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Welcome to Debate Politics.

Kind of hard to give him a lot of credit. He really wasn't in office all that long.
 
NickM said:
Reagan. Nuff said.
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Reagan?

Maybe I should fill in some quotes he said and others about him

The minimum wage shoul be repealed-it has caused more misery and unemployment than anything since the Great Depression. - R. Reagan

They are in violation of the law, and if they do not report for work within 48 hours, they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated. - R. Reagan

There are also a lot of jobs availible that some call 'menial.' Maybe we need to get back the Depression mentality, where there are no menial jobs. A job was a job, and anyone who got one felt lucky. - R. Reagan

Unemployment insurance is a prepaid vacation plan for freeloaders. - R. Reagan

President Reagan is asking for sacrifice from all of you. All of you does not include oil companies, other big industries, and wealthy folks. It does, however, include the workers and the needy. - S. Lukosus
 
Comrade Brian said:
They are in violation of the law, and if they do not report for work within 48 hours, they have forfeited their jobs and will be terminated. - R. Reagan
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Then explain why FDR is on this list? He is the one responsible for making it illegal for railroad employees to strike. It has remained that way since his presidency.
 
Soviet_Guy said:
I'm just glad Wilson got a vote.
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Wilson hasn't been the worst president, but he was the president through the Palmer Raids, when thousands of radicals, anarchists, communists, and socialists were arrested.
 
edb19 said:
Regarding President Kennedy - three words "Bay of Pigs"


To be honest, we'll never truly know how President Kennedy would have stood the test of time. Because he was killed at the height of his popularity, that's how we remember him. We remember the good and gloss over the bad. I truly believe that had he not been assassinated, he probably would have just faded quietly into the background. No one, no matter how charismatic, can maintain that level of adoration.
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Yes Bay of Pigs but how about Cuban missile crisis in which he handled it more charismatically than most republicans would have, no offense. But one does have to admit that as a whole republicans are more likely to go to war.
 
Soviet_Guy said:
Okay, which ones you think were left out, and God help you if you say Reagan or Bush. As for Woodrow Wilson, why do you people not respect him, he was only thing that got the U.S. into World War I.
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Yes many consider Reagan a great president, I, however, am not one of those. If I hear any more about his trickle down economics or his tax cuts I'm going to go nuts. Anyone who would consider either Bush a great president is obviously not even worthy of having an opinion. Under H.W. nothing happened except for Operation Desert Storm. Under our current man in the big oval room, the economy has suffered thousands have died and all he cares about is trying to fix social security with a bogus plan that will not work.
 
lachs said:
Lets not forget that Clinton presided over the longest period of growth in US history... that has to count for some thing? Maybe there should be separate polls for favourite war leader, economic leader, human/civil rights leader.
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I am a Clinton fan and would consider him worthy of being on that list. If it were not for the Lewinsky scandal then more people would give Clinton the respect he deserves. He definitely is one of the top ten greatest presidents in my mind.
 
I am sorry Soviet guy but I believe that Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever. He did a lot of things, especially help tear down the Soviet empire and also he was partially responsible for the Berlin wall to go down.
 
I think from what I know of US history I would have to say FDR, purely on the basis of the New Deal and his actually doing something significant against the depression.

Interesting random fact....a similar question was put to a bunch of American Historians at some point in recent times, at the moment I don't know the exact results but I do know Lincoln came first, followed by F D Roosevelt. Judging from the poll results it seems that rings true here.
 
Plain old me said:
I think from what I know of US history I would have to say FDR, purely on the basis of the New Deal and his actually doing something significant against the depression.

Interesting random fact....a similar question was put to a bunch of American Historians at some point in recent times, at the moment I don't know the exact results but I do know Lincoln came first, followed by F D Roosevelt. Judging from the poll results it seems that rings true here.
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http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=6517

http://www.townhall.com/bookclub/powell.html

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/ts20031009.shtml

The new deal was a bad deal.
 
Shadowlands said:
I am sorry Soviet guy but I believe that Reagan was one of the greatest presidents ever. He did a lot of things, especially help tear down the Soviet empire and also he was partially responsible for the Berlin wall to go down.
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That's why I hate him, well, I could stand the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall going down because of a U.S. President like Kennedy or Clinton, but Reagan was just an idiot, seriously his I.Q. couldn't have been higher than possibly 125.
 
Soviet_Guy said:
That's why I hate him, well, I could stand the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall going down because of a U.S. President like Kennedy or Clinton, but Reagan was just an idiot, seriously his I.Q. couldn't have been higher than possibly 125.
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So your saying your Soviet Empire was even stupider? :rofl

Okay okay

So basically what you saying you have no problem with Democrats but any reps you have a problem with? Isn't that a little wrong?
 
Soviet_Guy said:
That's why I hate him, well, I could stand the Soviet Union and the Berlin Wall going down because of a U.S. President like Kennedy or Clinton, but Reagan was just an idiot, seriously his I.Q. couldn't have been higher than possibly 125.
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Given that 115-130 is considered to be above ave. I'm not sure your post makes any sense.
 
I have 132! I was making a joke that if Reagan had an I.Q. of either 120 or 125 it'd be lower than mine! That's what I meant!
 
Soviet_Guy said:
I have 132! I was making a joke that if Reagan had an I.Q. of either 120 or 125 it'd be lower than mine! That's what I meant!
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You called him an idiot and went on to exclaim his IQ must 125. Which is above ave. Are your sure they told you yours was 132? Maybe you just didn't understand what they were telling you.
 
No, I was sure, I just hate Reagan okay, I hate him and throw every possible insult into his image and spit on his death, as I was happy on that day.
 
Soviet_Guy said:
No, I was sure, I just hate Reagan okay, I hate him and throw every possible insult into his image and spit on his death, as I was happy on that day.
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LOL? WHY BECAUSE HE THREW DOWN MOTHER RUSSIA?

OH THIS MAKES ME LAUGH.
 
lachs said:
Lets not forget that Clinton presided over the longest period of growth in US history... that has to count for some thing? Maybe there should be separate polls for favourite war leader, economic leader, human/civil rights leader.
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Presidents don't "preside" over the economy. They may or may not institute policies which may or may not effect the economy to certain degrees. In Clintons case is was "not".
 
douglas4123 said:
I am a Clinton fan and would consider him worthy of being on that list. If it were not for the Lewinsky scandal then more people would give Clinton the respect he deserves. He definitely is one of the top ten greatest presidents in my mind.
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He doesn't deserve repect even without the Lewinsky matter. The way he treated his wife. The way he treated women who worked for him. The way he treated women whom he has some control over. The way he lied to his staff and the the public. The credit he tries to take for things he had nothing to do with.

What do you respect him for, that he "feels your pain" and then is happy to let you suffer with it?
 
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