Neither are Adams (1), Monroe, Madison, Truman. I guess the list to choose from can only be so long.vauge said:
I agree neither one did anything. They both just did a good job getting on the news.(not that I'm trying to be unsympathetic to Kennedy)Squawker said:The likes of Kennedy and Clinton shouldn't be on the list at all. I think Soviet_Guy is more interested in causing trouble and being disruptive.
If the question was - "Amoung these who are the best" - then that would not be baised. Instead, a definative was put on it using the word "greatest" without putting all the Presidents on the list.Soviet_Guy said::lamo :funny :2rofll: That's hilarious, you should do stand up!
Honestly, the pro-business Coolidge?ShamMol said:Coolidge-for sure.
Not really, He just got the economic spoils of war left by Bush senior.Soviet_Guy said:... as for Clinton, he did much for U.S. economy during his administration.
Like line forty seven in the patriot act says..."the." Honestly, I don't care who the greatest is, just what is now. Plus, I picked the worst one there for sarcasm sake.anomaly said:Honestly, the pro-business Coolidge?
Yes, that is who I voted for too, I believe that as the longest reigning President, he was also the last President with a good International status. He visited Canada more than any other President, and was also the only one to die in office by natural death. ( Garfield, Mckinley, Lincoln, Kennedy, murdered ) He also was the President that I am very fond of for getting the U.S. into WW II, while the nation said no and wanted to stay out of anyworld affairs like cowards, FDR, he insisted on going to war, he knew it was the right thing to do, and he wasn't controlled like a puppet, as for Reagan who was clearly reading a script, or Bush Senior, who was just there when Communism collapsed when in reality, he didn't do anything, ( Reagan's administration had already done everything ).anomaly said:Honestly, the pro-business Coolidge?
I voted for FDR, beyond any doubt, the greatest President, IMO.
They should certainly be on the long before Clinton and Kennedy. That you would even put Clinton on the list shows the falicy of your poll. Kennedy I can see because of the myth, the Camelot thing, that has grown around him. But Clinton? In the polls of historians that I read he's lucky to make it out of the bottom third. Reagan always scores high and will always be considered the great president he was. Bush(2) probably will if things continue to go as they are and the propagandist do not get to misrepresent history.GarzaUK said:Reagon and Bush couldn't touch Lincoln when it comes to greatness.
ROFL way to go insulting everyone over the age of 60. Do you really think that makes your point? What folly. Obviously you have never read any of Reagans writings.Soviet_Guy said:Reagan was a very, very old man, too old to make good decisions, it's biologicaly proven that people lose intelligence after 60, he was what, 72 when he was elected?
Do not assume, I'd wait before you pass a final judgement.Anyway, Bush, hardy, har, har, NO.
Doesn't speak highly of these forums then. He was facing not gettting reelected which is why he was in Texas when he was assisinated. He did pass a very large tax cut which helped the economy, but then I would think you would oppose such policies.As for Kennedy, I've heard nothing but good things about him on these forums,
And specifically what did he do? Not what happened while he happened to be in office. What specifically did he do with what result? He was dragged kicking and screaming to a balanced budget agreement. He tried 3 times to stop welfare reform and pledged and his last nominating convention to repeal it (which was a lie, he never did), he passed what he admitted was too large a tax increase and it hurt the recovery he inherited. And he left with the economy in recession and the stockmarket having fallen almost 20 percent from it's peak. So what economic policies are you talking about that you give him credit for?Clinton, he did much for U.S. economy during his administration.
Nice.galenrox said:Oh yeah, Kennedy, he didn't do anything great, cause that whole civil rights thing is so overrated, and getting us through the cuban missle crisis, that doesn't even hold water against starting secret wars to displace communist democracies with capitalist authoritarian governments, right? I mean, Regan was SOOO much better than Kennedy!
Just taste the sarcasm while it drips from what I just said!
My poll? It isn't my poll, I didn't post this poll or mention Clinton and Kennedy.Stinger said:They should certainly be on the long before Clinton and Kennedy. That you would even put Clinton on the list shows the falicy of your poll. Kennedy I can see because of the myth, the Camelot thing, that has grown around him. But Clinton? In the polls of historians that I read he's lucky to make it out of the bottom third. Reagan always scores high and will always be considered the great president he was. Bush(2) probably will if things continue to go as they are and the propagandist do not get to misrepresent history.