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Greatest Article of TA-50 Ever (1 Viewer)

Fledermaus said:
Wore the green sateen uniform up to the last day it was allowed
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What was “sateen?” There was OD issue and then there was something else for purchase, that had a different feel to it. Guard mounts frowned on it, but it was more comfortable for daily wear. The material was shinier that issue.My term was late 72-75.
 
Rich2018 said:
But finally the US army has a decent camouflage patter - MultiCam.
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Multicam is pretty good. About half the modern militaries out there are adopting it directly or making “legally distinct” versions.
 
Rexedgar said:
What was “sateen?” There was OD issue and then there was something else for purchase, that had a different feel to it. Guard mounts frowned on it, but it was more comfortable for daily wear. The material was shinier that issue.My term was late 72-75.
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The OD green uniform was commonly referred to by Marines as Sateens. Joined 1977.
 
Questerr said:
Multicam is pretty good. About half the modern militaries out there are adopting it directly or making “legally distinct” versions.
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Yes you see similar patterns all the time - the UK "Multi Terrain Pattern" - MTP) looks very similar. A sure sign it's a good camo-pattern.
 
Rich2018 said:
Yes you see similar patterns all the time - the UK "Multi Terrain Pattern" - MTP) looks very similar. A sure sign it's a good camo-pattern.
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Same with the Australia and France.
 
Fledermaus said:
The OD green uniform was commonly referred to by Marines as Sateens. Joined 1977.
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And the replacement as "Cammies", as opposed to the Army who called the same uniform "BDUs".

"Sateen" actually refers to the fabric itself. Normally a multi-layered weave incorporating spun yarn instead of filament yarn, giving it a softer texture akin to satin (where it derives it's name).
 
Rich2018 said:
I think the "multi cam" pattern, or something very similar, is more common than that.
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A lot of countries are buying Multicam outright, but Britain, France, Australia, and Russia have just made "Definitely Not Legally Multicam" copies.
 
Questerr said:
A lot of countries are buying Multicam outright, but Britain, France, Australia, and Russia have just made "Definitely Not Legally Multicam" copies.
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Really ?
You really should research before you rant. The British MOD did NOT illegally copy "Multi-Cam" as:
1. It was commercially available anyway
2. It's designers, Crye, were contracted, by the MOD, to design MTP (Multi Terrain Pattern)

"A wide range of camouflage colours were tried in Britain, Cyprus, Kenya and Afghanistan. Camouflage patterns were compared with in-service and commercially available patterns—including those from Crye Precision in the United States.....
Crye's "Multicam" pattern was determined to be the best performing, across the widest range of environments and was subsequently selected as the basis for the new British MTP camouflage...Crye designed the new pattern for the UK's MOD, with the MOD holding the licence to print the pattern."
en.wikipedia.org

Multi-Terrain Pattern - Wikipedia

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StillBallin75 said:
Don't think they issue those out anymore. We had balaclava and neck gaiters.
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The old school cold weather helmet liner probably went with the steel brain bucket. That bit of steel was freezing cold in the winter and a brain baker in the summer. However, it came in handy for a ho bath, or shaving.... ✌️
 
notquiteright said:
The old school cold weather helmet liner probably went with the steel brain bucket. That bit of steel was freezing cold in the winter and a brain baker in the summer. However, it came in handy for a ho bath, or shaving....
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If I'm remembering right, they were still issued when I was at my last duty station, in 1991. That cold weather liner, the plastic liner shell that went in the steel pot, and a pistol belt were the only items of TA-50 I was issued there. The liner shell and pistol belt were in case of parade duty. The cold weather pile cap was because with the ear flaps rolled up, it became the required headgear post-wide for a few of the colder months.
 
notquiteright said:
The old school cold weather helmet liner probably went with the steel brain bucket. That bit of steel was freezing cold in the winter and a brain baker in the summer. However, it came in handy for a ho bath, or shaving.... ✌️
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The British helmet wasn't even useful for that
Hence British soldiers spurned the use of helmets in wars in Korea and Malaya. The design of the British steel helmet was that bad.
 
RF667799 said:
If I'm remembering right, they were still issued when I was at my last duty station, in 1991. That cold weather liner, the plastic liner shell that went in the steel pot, and a pistol belt were the only items of TA-50 I was issued there. The liner shell and pistol belt were in case of parade duty. The cold weather pile cap was because with the ear flaps rolled up, it became the required headgear post-wide for a few of the colder months.
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Yeah, the liner held the suspension webbing for the steel pot, the two pieces were a set as any grunt who tripped soon found out as the two pieces loved to go their separate ways tumbling across the ground. You removed the liner and camo cover to heat water in the steel pot. I remember stuffing foam into the liner webbing hoping for more insulation. We also had a wool backed face mask for driving, Ma deuce gunners and guard duty. And 'Mickey Mouse' black boots for the same. Trigger finger mittens for everyone, my wife found a set in Philly and mailed them to me back on the farm. She laughed; I shuddered....
She can laugh, her duty station was climate controlled, and they rode Mercedes busses to and from the Kaserne.... ✌️
 
notquiteright said:
Yeah, the liner held the suspension webbing for the steel pot, the two pieces were a set as any grunt who tripped soon found out as the two pieces loved to go their separate ways tumbling across the ground. You removed the liner and camo cover to heat water in the steel pot. I remember stuffing foam into the liner webbing hoping for more insulation. We also had a wool backed face mask for driving, Ma deuce gunners and guard duty. And 'Mickey Mouse' black boots for the same. Trigger finger mittens for everyone, my wife found a set in Philly and mailed them to me back on the farm. She laughed; I shuddered....
She can laugh, her duty station was climate controlled, and they rode Mercedes busses to and from the Kaserne.... ✌️
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We had 5 buckle black overshoes and newer green ones with an elastic tie top. Either would completely trash the shine on a pair of black leather boots. The hot setup- warmer and easier to get on and off- was to wear running shoes inside the overshoes. Years later, I broke an ankle with that setup when I got my foot caught in a frozen tire rut.
 
Rich2018 said:
The British helmet wasn't even useful for that
Hence British soldiers spurned the use of helmets in wars in Korea and Malaya. The design of the British steel helmet was that bad.
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I think the Germans had a one-piece steel pot with suspension as well. Several sizes with several different suspension rigs. Good and bad with both- I could wash my feet, but the helmet separated at the damnest times if we tripped... ✌️
 
notquiteright said:
I think the Germans had a one-piece steel pot with suspension as well. Several sizes with several different suspension rigs. Good and bad with both- I could wash my feet, but the helmet separated at the damnest times if we tripped... ✌️
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Woe be to someone a senior NCO caught walking around with his chinstrap unbuckled and flapping,,,,,:HEY JOHN WAYNE!

It's not a term of endearment or a compliment.
 
RF667799 said:
We had 5 buckle black overshoes and newer green ones with an elastic tie top. Either would completely trash the shine on a pair of black leather boots. The hot setup- warmer and easier to get on and off- was to wear running shoes inside the overshoes. Years later, I broke an ankle with that setup when I got my foot caught in a frozen tire rut.
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OMG, the buckle ups!!! Germany was cold wet a lot, so the 'goulashes' were handy. Drawback was sweat would build up when marching so sock changing was a responsibility of the NCOs to supervise. FYI, we dried the socks in our armpits. Ahhh memories.... SHUDDER.... :D
 
notquiteright said:
I think the Germans had a one-piece steel pot with suspension as well. Several sizes with several different suspension rigs. Good and bad with both- I could wash my feet, but the helmet separated at the damnest times if we tripped... ✌️
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The German "Stahlhelm" was a good design - based on the medieval "Sallet" helmet

Whereas the British steel helmet was based on the medieval "Kettle" helmet

I know which I'd prefer.
 
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