Graham: There could be GOP 'war' over border wall

[JacksinPA]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/428365-graham-there-could-be-war-among-gop-over-border-wall

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) warned on Monday that there could be a “war” among Republicans if President Trump declared a national emergency to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

Graham, speaking in South Carolina, acknowledged that the idea divides Republicans, who he argued should unite behind the president if he ends up circumventing Congress to build the wall.
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Trump was warned by Graham that he may have to 'go it alone' as many Repubs in Congress will not support the very unpopular wall. The ones most deeply affected are the ones facing reelection in the next election.

 

[noonereal]

Trump does not care.

Trump reminder me of the honey badger. The honey badger does not care, the honey badger dopes not give a ****.

 

[Rexedgar]

Now they threaten to find a spine........

 

[Amelia]

Now they threaten to find a spine........

Better late than never.

But I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard them grumble at Trump's outrageous actions, and we've seen them repeatedly fall back in line and wait for their marching orders.

 

[bongsaway]

The GOP has gotten themselves into quite the pickle with their leader, curious to see how McConnell handles the situation. He wants to avoid another shutdown knowing it will only hurt the GOP. Their loose cannon of a leader is beyond their control and it really worries them.

 

[Carleen]

The GOP has gotten themselves into quite the pickle with their leader, curious to see how McConnell handles the situation. He wants to avoid another shutdown knowing it will only hurt the GOP. Their loose cannon of a leader is beyond their control and it really worries them.

Trump is not a leader. He’s a reactionary and loves the confusion and decisiveness he creates. A bad choice for president IMO

 

[jnug]

The GOP has gotten themselves into quite the pickle with their leader, curious to see how McConnell handles the situation. He wants to avoid another shutdown knowing it will only hurt the GOP. Their loose cannon of a leader is beyond their control and it really worries them.

Oh its even more of a pickle than that. The messaging from the GOP on the Hill is that they will join with Dems to vote to nail a National Emergency Declaration from Trump and force Trump to veto such a Bill coming off the Hill. Further, the messaging is that the 2:3 vote needed to overturn Trump's veto is also likely there.

The GOP realizes that killing Article 1 of the Constitution is not the hill they want to die on and they are further realizing that the chances are very good that Article 3 Judges and Justices will come to the defense of Article 1 if Trump vetos and if they can't muster the 2:3 vote needed as the transparency of forcing a 2:3 veto vote over what is really just an inability of the Executive to gain an Appropriation for something he wants is as plain as the nose on their faces.

The GOP is also aware that if Trump gets smacked down on the Hill, that is bad enough. If he gets smacked down on the Hill and then smacked down in the Courts, while Trump himself will take a major hit politically, the GOP takes an enduring hit for having been the catalyst that brought this oblivious whack job to the WH. Who is doing the People's business while Trump plays mumbly peg with Government and the Constitution itself will be the question that far more than half the country will be asking itself.

 

[tres borrachos]

Better late than never.

But I'll believe it when I see it. We've heard them grumble at Trump's outrageous actions, and we've seen them repeatedly fall back in line and wait for their marching orders.

What she said--------^ couldn't agree more.

 

[ataraxia]

Trump does not care.

Trump reminder me of the honey badger. The honey badger does not care, the honey badger dopes not give a ****.

That is one very interesting video. And very appropriate, if not downright uncanny comparison to Trump! The narrator is Hilarious!

Those birds and jackals who pick up the scraps remind me of folks like Pence, McConnell, and Lindsey Graham. :lamo

 

[Tangmo]

Republicans in the Senate are impacted by the November voting that massacred Republicans in House districts. The national popular vote aggregate margin was the greatest ever in House elections, plus-nine percent for Democrats and the Democratic party.

Going into the 2020 election cycle two dozen Republican senators are up compared to a dozen or so Democratic party senators. This is the reverse of 2018 when the D party had a net loss of two seats. In November Kansas elected a Democratic party governor and flipped a red House seat.

Republicans are wearing the collar for the shutdown. The vast majority of Americans oppose Trump's Wall and see no state of emergency at the border. Pentagon testified to the House Armed Services Committee last week it sees no threat to national security at the southern border and is thinking globally about Russia, China, Iran, NK.

Trump was going to let the wall thingy continue to be swept under the rug until Coulter and Limbaugh got on their high horse to pronounce that no wall meant no more base of support. That lit Trump's ass on fire and he's been running around since in all directions. Now comes the sweetest revenge of 'em all which is Republican party cannibalism using Trump's ass on fire to do the barbecuing. And a big blaze it is.

 

[bongsaway]

Oh its even more of a pickle than that. The messaging from the GOP on the Hill is that they will join with Dems to vote to nail a National Emergency Declaration from Trump and force Trump to veto such a Bill coming off the Hill. Further, the messaging is that the 2:3 vote needed to overturn Trump's veto is also likely there.

The GOP realizes that killing Article 1 of the Constitution is not the hill they want to die on and they are further realizing that the chances are very good that Article 3 Judges and Justices will come to the defense of Article 1 if Trump vetos and if they can't muster the 2:3 vote needed as the transparency of forcing a 2:3 veto vote over what is really just an inability of the Executive to gain an Appropriation for something he wants is as plain as the nose on their faces.

The GOP is also aware that if Trump gets smacked down on the Hill, that is bad enough. If he gets smacked down on the Hill and then smacked down in the Courts, while Trump himself will take a major hit politically, the GOP takes an enduring hit for having been the catalyst that brought this oblivious whack job to the WH. Who is doing the People's business while Trump plays mumbly peg with Government and the Constitution itself will be the question that far more than half the country will be asking itself.

Is it bad that I know what mumbly peg is? I said the day after the election, look at the bright side, maybe trump will be the last nail in the GOP coffin?

 

[Rexedgar]

That is one very interesting video. And very appropriate, if not downright uncanny comparison to Trump! The narrator is Hilarious!

Those birds and jackals who pick up the scraps remind me of folks like Pence, McConnell, and Lindsey Graham. :lamo

.....and there is the blond comb-over thing!

 

[RaleBulgarian]

Trump does not care.

Trump reminder me of the honey badger. The honey badger does not care, the honey badger dopes not give a ****.

Trump is most certainly not like the total bad ass honey badger.

In fact, he’s very much the opposite. He’s a spoiled rotten septuagenarian toddler who throws a fit when he doesn’t get his way.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/428365-graham-there-could-be-war-among-gop-over-border-wall

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) warned on Monday that there could be a “war” among Republicans if President Trump declared a national emergency to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

Graham, speaking in South Carolina, acknowledged that the idea divides Republicans, who he argued should unite behind the president if he ends up circumventing Congress to build the wall.
======================================================
Trump was warned by Graham that he may have to 'go it alone' as many Repubs in Congress will not support the very unpopular wall. The ones most deeply affected are the ones facing reelection in the next election.

Did these spineless republicans learn nothing from the last election, Candidates who MAGA get re-elected, those who don’t lose. Stop betraying Trump

 

[Mycroft]

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/428365-graham-there-could-be-war-among-gop-over-border-wall

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) warned on Monday that there could be a “war” among Republicans if President Trump declared a national emergency to build the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

Graham, speaking in South Carolina, acknowledged that the idea divides Republicans, who he argued should unite behind the president if he ends up circumventing Congress to build the wall.
======================================================
Trump was warned by Graham that he may have to 'go it alone' as many Repubs in Congress will not support the very unpopular wall. The ones most deeply affected are the ones facing reelection in the next election.

Graham should be worried about the Senators who are up for election who oppose Trump on the wall.

But seriously, it doesn't matter. Congress won't give him money for the wall. Trump will have to do it without them.

 

[ecofarm]

Did these spineless republicans learn nothing from the last election, Candidates who MAGA get re-elected, those who don’t lose. Stop betraying Trump

Most of the candidates Trump campaigned for lost.

 

[EMNofSeattle]

Most of the candidates Trump campaigned for lost.

No, not true. Most of the ones who lost rejected Trump offers to campaign.



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[ecofarm]

No, not true. Most of the ones who lost rejected Trump offers to campaign.



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:lol:

 

[Tangmo]

Graham should be worried about the Senators who are up for election who oppose Trump on the wall.

But seriously, it doesn't matter. Congress won't give him money for the wall. Trump will have to do it without them.

When legislation fails go authoritarian.

 

[slick]

Most of the candidates Trump campaigned for lost.

I bet on the 4 Trump campaigned on the most which were up for grabs & Trump's efforts carried them all to victory!
4 for 4. 3 out of the 4 were underdogs and won, thanx to Trump!
Trump let Ryan try to stop the bleeding in the house thank goodness Ryan is now out of the picture.

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[ecofarm]

I bet on the 4 Trump campaigned on the most which were up for grabs & Trump's efforts carried them all to victory!
4 for 4. 3 out of the 4 were underdogs and won, thanx to Trump!
Trump let Ryan try to stop the bleeding in the house thank goodness Ryan is now out of the picture.

Ticket Number: 107021236
Nov 0504:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT ODDS TO WIN THE MISSOURI U.S. SENATE
[75364] JOSH HAWLEY (REP) +105 40 to win 42

Ticket Number: 107021237
Nov 0504:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT ODDS TO WIN THE FLORIDA U.S. SENATE
[75379] RICK SCOTT (REP) +115 40 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033540
Nov 0504:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT ODDS TO WIN THE INDIANA U.S. SENATE
[75360] MIKE BRAUN (REP) +160 29 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033541
Nov 0504:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT ODDS TO WIN THE NORTH DAKOTA U.S. SENATE
[75375] KEVIN CRAMER (REP) -120 35 to win 29

Good for you.

Most of the candidates Trump campaigned for lost.

 

[Casper]

Did these spineless republicans learn nothing from the last election, Candidates who MAGA get re-elected, those who don’t lose. Stop betraying Trump

Senator's don't work for trump or any other President, and since the wall is not their idea but Trump's then there is no requirement to support trump over an issue many if them and those that elected them to office don't support.

 

[Mycroft]

When legislation fails go authoritarian.

As Barack "I've got a pen and a phone" Obama says, "Sure".

 

[Tangmo]

As Barack "I've got a pen and a phone" Obama says, "Sure".

American Conservatives have become what we once fought against to defeat. We over here aren't tired of winning yet, on this especially.

 

[Mycroft]

American Conservatives have become what we once fought against to defeat. We over here aren't tired of winning yet, on this especially.

1. Who is this "we" you refer to?

2. What did this "we" fight against...that you say American Conservatives have become?

3. "We over here"?? Where is this "we" at?

4. What "winning" has this "we" done?

You know, Tangmo, it's really hard to have a discussion when you aren't very clear as to what you are talking about. Clarify this stuff and maybe we can talk.