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Government Ruins Everything: Sharing food with neighbors

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Here the progressive regulatory state criminalizes people for trying to help their neighbors:



Just imagine the sort of person who'd complain about an unlicensed food pantry.
 

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This is how it's supposed to work - one neighbor (and others) helping another. . .

And government wrecks it - - just like they do everything else.

:doh
 

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Just imagine the sort of person who'd complain about an unlicensed food pantry.

The same kind of person who dialing 911 to report little Sally's corner lemon-aide stand. A stereotypical leftist freak, who can't abide capitalism or citizens helping citizens. That is the role of GOVERNMENT, damn it! :doh
 

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Just imagine the sort of person who'd complain about an unlicensed food pantry.

But rest assured that they actually exist. I remember years back when my ex-wife worked in a shop in Montreal, Canada that one day the language police walked in. They had received a complaint that the sticker on the till which said 'We accept VISA' was in English and not in French. They were ordered to replace it within 1 day. The irony was that the sticker in question was issued by the bank next door... But anyways, who would want to complaint about something that silly. Really.

Joey
 

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Here the progressive regulatory state criminalizes people for trying to help their neighbors:

A bit one sided. She mentioned that the council wanted her to follow some rules which she deemed unnecessary. It would be interesting to see what those rules were.
 

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Here the progressive regulatory state criminalizes people for trying to help their neighbors:



There was another woman in the same area that opened a free pantry and was closed down...but after complying with the simple health regulations she was allowed to open again.

"...The pantry, located at 121 Cleveland St., was closed for more than a month while Davidson worked with the health district to make sure all requirements are being met. Tina’s Free Food Cupboard does not qualify as a donated food distributing organization, according to the health district letter, but it can serve as a food donation location for “very specific types of shelf-stable foods.”

Unopened packages and canned goods with original labeling are OK, but no home canning or perishable items are allowed. Every donation has to be inspected by Davidson before it goes in the cupboard, and she is 100 percent liable for the food and distribution, according to the letter.

“If Asotin County Public Health receives a complaint, we are required to investigate,” wrote Sundie Hoffman, a food safety specialist. “If the complaint proves to be valid, and the pantry or its processes are out of compliance, it will be permanently shut down and not allowed to reopen by order of the Asotin County Public Health officer.”

The health district is also keeping tabs on a pop-up pantry in Clarkston that was sidelined during the same time period. The free food site behind the Clarkston post office has not been given the green light to reopen...."​


The Clarkston pop up pantry belongs to Kathy Hay in the video and her pantry was cited as a public health hazard....


"...Officials put the little pantry on notice after getting reports of possible food safety issues, such as wild game being donated at the site, outdated food, opened packages and cabinets too close to the ground that could be easily opened by a “critter.” An old refrigerator was being used for food storage.

“I’ve written the health district a letter that I plan to deliver this week,” Hay said. “I’m working on this. I don’t agree with what they are doing. If they close me down again, I’m going to start a petition.”​

For all the time and effort Ms.Hay has to put in for a petition...she could just clean up her pantry and only put non perishable unopened food in there. But noooo, that would be too easy and she wouldn't get any media attention showing how oppressed she is.


Poor, pitiful, Kathy Hay
She couldn't get her way
To give her spoiled rotten food away
But don't say nay to Kathy Hay
She promises to be back someday
To give her rotten half eaten food away.
 

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Oh yeah, progressives who gave us the right to organize, food stamps, WIC, etc., are the enemy. There are free book exchange boxes in my neighborhood. You take a book, leave a book. You don’t eat books. Food is different. As described, this wasn’t a lemonade stand. As one poster said, what did the evil state demand that was so burdensome?
 

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Ummm, excuse me...

"Generally, Asotin County is considered a staunchly Republican area, although it has been known to vote for Democrats, especially on the state level. Currently the county is represented at the county commission level by two Republicans and one Independent."

I think there's a bit of misguided poutrage going on because while Asotin County might not exactly be a far right stronghold, it's certainly not any kind of an ultra-liberal mecca either.
And it sounds like the county just wants a little bit of regulatory participation and compliance which is not unreasonable in the middle of a pandemic, after all.

There's just no "there" there.

The government is responsible to do its duty for the public welfare and safety figures prominently when it comes to things we put in our mouths.
 

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There was another woman in the same area that opened a free pantry and was closed down...but after complying with the simple health regulations she was allowed to open again.

"...The pantry, located at 121 Cleveland St., was closed for more than a month while Davidson worked with the health district to make sure all requirements are being met. Tina’s Free Food Cupboard does not qualify as a donated food distributing organization, according to the health district letter, but it can serve as a food donation location for “very specific types of shelf-stable foods.”

Unopened packages and canned goods with original labeling are OK, but no home canning or perishable items are allowed. Every donation has to be inspected by Davidson before it goes in the cupboard, and she is 100 percent liable for the food and distribution, according to the letter.

“If Asotin County Public Health receives a complaint, we are required to investigate,” wrote Sundie Hoffman, a food safety specialist. “If the complaint proves to be valid, and the pantry or its processes are out of compliance, it will be permanently shut down and not allowed to reopen by order of the Asotin County Public Health officer.”

The health district is also keeping tabs on a pop-up pantry in Clarkston that was sidelined during the same time period. The free food site behind the Clarkston post office has not been given the green light to reopen...."​


The Clarkston pop up pantry belongs to Kathy Hay in the video and her pantry was cited as a public health hazard....


"...Officials put the little pantry on notice after getting reports of possible food safety issues, such as wild game being donated at the site, outdated food, opened packages and cabinets too close to the ground that could be easily opened by a “critter.” An old refrigerator was being used for food storage.

“I’ve written the health district a letter that I plan to deliver this week,” Hay said. “I’m working on this. I don’t agree with what they are doing. If they close me down again, I’m going to start a petition.”​

For all the time and effort Ms.Hay has to put in for a petition...she could just clean up her pantry and only put non perishable unopened food in there. But noooo, that would be too easy and she wouldn't get any media attention showing how oppressed she is.


Poor, pitiful, Kathy Hay
She couldn't get her way
To give her spoiled rotten food away
But don't say nay to Kathy Hay
She promises to be back someday
To give her rotten half eaten food away.

I cannot rightly comprehend the disordered thinking required to believe that charity needs to be regulated by the state.
 

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I cannot rightly comprehend the disordered thinking required to believe that charity needs to be regulated by the state.

When it comes to handling, sharing or giving food to the public...it could become a public health issue. The regulations are likely saving Ms. Hays from several lawsuits since there were many complaints made about her pop up pantry containing raw meat, outdated and opened food packages and poorly stored perishables.
 
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When it comes to sharing or giving food to the public...it could become a public health issue. The regulations are likely saving Ms. Hays from several lawsuits since there were many complaints made about her pop up pantry containing raw meat, outdated and opened food packages and poorly stored perishables.

If only there were some way for people who don't want her charity to refuse it.
 

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If only there were some way for people who don't want her charity to refuse it.
And if someone gets sick and/or dies because of out dated or spoiled food too bad?

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If only there were some way for people who don't want her charity to refuse it.

It's not much of a charity if it makes people sick and worse off.
 

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And if someone gets sick and/or dies because of out dated or spoiled food too bad?

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If only there were some legal process for recovering damages from a tortfeasor.
 

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This is how it's supposed to work - one neighbor (and others) helping another. . .

And government wrecks it - - just like they do everything else.

:doh

Do they wreck everything? You debate like a 13 year old girl, full of hyperbole and hysteria.

You anti-government types are the most ignorant traitors, unable to think of a single benefit from having a functioning government. Go live in Somalia, where there's no working government. You'll get to play war a lot and your taxes will be taken in the form of protection paid to warlords. A libertarian paradise. You can open a lemonade stand.
 

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If only there were some legal process for recovering damages from a tortfeasor.



Gee, if only there were safety regulations for handling food so people don't get sick and die and have to file lawsuits and pay medical bills with money they don't have and all because they used Ms. Hay's free food pantry.
 

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Do they wreck everything? You debate like a 13 year old girl, full of hyperbole and hysteria.

You anti-government types are the most ignorant traitors, unable to think of a single benefit from having a functioning government. Go live in Somalia, where there's no working government. You'll get to play war a lot and your taxes will be taken in the form of protection paid to warlords. A libertarian paradise. You can open a lemonade stand.

Wow. This is literally the dumbest post I have read all week. Pure ad hominem nonsense...

You probably don't know what the term ad hominem means.

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy associated with trying to undermine the opponent's arguments by personal attacks, through attacking their character or claiming that they are immature.

Yours is a textbook example of ad ad hominem fallacy.

Hopefully, you gained a little wisdom with this. If not, well - - - I tried!

"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.
 

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If only there were some legal process for recovering damages from a tortfeasor.
We tend to stop such things from happening rather than allow them to happen or continue. It is why restaurants and other places that serve or store food get inspected by health inspectors, to avoid most such lawsuits. Prevention is better than reactions.

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Wow. This is literally the dumbest post I have read all week. Pure ad hominem nonsense...

You probably don't know what the term ad hominem means.

Ad hominem is a logical fallacy associated with trying to undermine the opponent's arguments by personal attacks, through attacking their character or claiming that they are immature.

Yours is a textbook example of ad ad hominem fallacy.

Hopefully, you gained a little wisdom with this. If not, well - - - I tried!

"Every time something really bad happens, people cry out for safety, and the government answers by taking rights away from good people." - Penn Jillette.

Well, I get really tired of the hackneyed conservative complaint that government wrecks everything. More specifically, conservative governments wreck everything.

Besides, my post was not pure ad hominem. That's just more hyperbole on your part. I made a good point about how you anti-government anarchists make the dumbest arguments. Governments take many forms and they are not all bad. Our government, were it still by, of and FOR the people would function better than the fascist **** hole the conservatarians are creating.
 

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I cannot rightly comprehend the disordered thinking required to believe that charity needs to be regulated by the state.

It's just idle craziness like demanding that rotten or compromised food not be distributed.
 

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It is why restaurants and other places that serve or store food get inspected by health inspectors, to avoid most such lawsuits. Prevention is better than reactions.

Here's a restaurant in one of the most highly regulated cities in the entire world:


That's the kind of cleanliness that government regulation provides.
 

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Here's a restaurant in one of the most highly regulated cities in the entire world:


That's the kind of cleanliness that government regulation provides.
And that would/should get them shut down to take care of the issue. This isnt rocket science.


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We tend to stop such things from happening rather than allow them to happen or continue. It is why restaurants and other places that serve or store food get inspected by health inspectors, to avoid most such lawsuits. Prevention is better than reactions.

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It's just idle craziness like demanding that rotten or compromised food not be distributed.

If only there were some way, any way at all, for people to avoid consuming food they didn't feel was trustworthy.
 

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If only there were some way, any way at all, for people to avoid consuming food they didn't feel was trustworthy.

Sounds like they found one.
 
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